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    Thread: Stock Volkswagen diesel goes 1626.1 miles on a single tank

    1. 05-09-2012 11:16 AM #26
      Quote Originally Posted by John A View Post
      Freshly waxed car? Tires pumped to 50psi? Washer fluid emptied? Enough AdBlue just to make the trip? Coasting on every downhill, stopping engine at lights, who knows what else they were doing - but lots of slow cruise control had to be a big part of it.
      Unless something changed VW's small diesel motors didn't need adblue, they had a noxbox.. at least in the US? Our 2010 TDI didn't use adblue.

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      05-09-2012 11:17 AM #27
      Quote Originally Posted by John A View Post
      Freshly waxed car? Tires pumped to 50psi? Washer fluid emptied? Enough AdBlue just to make the trip? Coasting on every downhill, stopping engine at lights, who knows what else they were doing - but lots of slow cruise control had to be a big part of it.
      Dont forget drafting semis. Depending upon which route they took, there would be a plethora of right lane semis to draft up behind.
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      05-09-2012 11:18 AM #28
      Quote Originally Posted by vasillalov View Post
      Please.. 3 days driving 1600 miles. I can't possibly imagine driving on the highway at 40 mph, let alone for 3 days and 1600 miles. I'd just open the door and jump out hoping for a quick and sudden death.

      Yeah, no thanks! The fuel efficiency achieved is not worth my time. I'd rather dump lots and lots of hydrocarbons in the air with my kittyless 335i


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    4. 05-09-2012 11:19 AM #29
      Quote Originally Posted by morecarsthanbrains View Post
      Dont forget drafting semis. Depending upon which route they took, there would be a plethora of right lane semis to draft up behind.
      At 40? not likely.

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      05-09-2012 11:21 AM #30
      Quote Originally Posted by Grey Mouser View Post
      Unless something changed VW's small diesel motors didn't need adblue, they had a noxbox.. at least in the US? Our 2010 TDI didn't use adblue.
      I thought so too, but it looks like the Passat needs Adblue:

      http://www.myturbodiesel.com/1000q/b...review-faq.htm

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      05-09-2012 11:23 AM #31
      Quote Originally Posted by punisher89 View Post
      Imagine being stuck behind these people on the interstate.
      they didnt drive on the interstate, there are articles out there with a lot more details.
      they took mostly rural roads with speed limits up to 60 MPH and only on those faster 60MPH roads they went 5 under.
      their average did end up being just over 40 MPH for the whole trip.
      is it doable? yes it is, would one go craze,, yes.

      as for being stuck behind them... most rural roads are Broken YELLOW line, so you can pass whenever. and even if it was interstate that would mean 2 lanes minimum each way, so once again you could pass

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      05-09-2012 11:24 AM #32
      Quote Originally Posted by Grey Mouser View Post
      Unless something changed VW's small diesel motors didn't need adblue, they had a noxbox.. at least in the US? Our 2010 TDI didn't use adblue.
      The Passat needed the AdBlue to pass EPA cert. The Jetta, Golf and Beetle squeaked through without it. Can't remember the exact reason though.
      Quote Originally Posted by Juniper Monkeys View Post
      I believe the operation parameters on those Hunter machines specifies that if the measurements for camber and toe exceed 45 degrees, the operator and the vehicle's owner are required to commit ritual suicide. So I would recommend mounting it on oil drums and making it a river boat instead.

    8. 05-09-2012 11:24 AM #33
      Quote Originally Posted by Smigelski View Post
      I thought so too, but it looks like the Passat needs Adblue:

      http://www.myturbodiesel.com/1000q/b...review-faq.htm
      Interesting. Too bad you can't just buy adblue outright and do it yourself. (I've read you can get it at truck stops if you happen to be so lucky)... but the dealer won't sell it to you, it's a service type item?

      Has that changed?

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      05-09-2012 11:24 AM #34
      Quote Originally Posted by Grey Mouser View Post
      At 40? not likely.
      Probably not for long stretches but every little bit helps. There are some very slow sections in southern Va as you wind your way through the mountains (if they took 81). In that area, trucks arent going too much faster because of the grades and turns.
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      05-09-2012 11:25 AM #35
      Quote Originally Posted by Grey Mouser View Post
      Interesting. Too bad you can't just buy adblue outright and do it yourself. (I've read you can get it at truck stops if you happen to be so lucky)... but the dealer won't sell it to you, it's a service type item?

      Has that changed?
      Dunno about the dealer, but I just checked ECS and they have it

      http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/Adblue/ES465415/

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      05-09-2012 11:26 AM #36
      Quote Originally Posted by vasillalov View Post
      Yeah, no thanks! The fuel efficiency achieved is not worth my time. I'd rather dump lots and lots of hydrocarbons in the air with my kittyless 335i
      Anyone who drives a catless car especially one that came with a cat, is a total douche.

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      05-09-2012 11:27 AM #37
      Great mileage! So with a few changes to your everyday driving style 50+ mpg should be pretty simple.

    13. 05-09-2012 11:27 AM #38
      Quote Originally Posted by Smigelski View Post
      Dunno about the dealer, but I just checked ECS and they have it

      http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/Adblue/ES465415/

      5 gallons = 18 liters. That's a lot of small adblue bottles.

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      05-09-2012 11:29 AM #39
      Quote Originally Posted by Grey Mouser View Post
      Interesting. Too bad you can't just buy adblue outright and do it yourself. (I've read you can get it at truck stops if you happen to be so lucky)... but the dealer won't sell it to you, it's a service type item?

      Has that changed?
      The VW dealer sells small containers (1/2 gal.) to the public. They have a special nozzle to attach it to the filler to reduce spills. The 2.5 gal. containers are a bit more inconvenient for the regular consumer to use as it needs a machine to be able to pump it into the tank.
      Quote Originally Posted by Juniper Monkeys View Post
      I believe the operation parameters on those Hunter machines specifies that if the measurements for camber and toe exceed 45 degrees, the operator and the vehicle's owner are required to commit ritual suicide. So I would recommend mounting it on oil drums and making it a river boat instead.

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      05-09-2012 11:30 AM #40
      i wonder if the 14 hours driving takes into account breaks for lunch and bathroom. if it does, then the average could very well go up to 50ish mph average.

      my dad got 55mpg while going 55 in traffic (not stop and go). im sure if you baby it, you can get somewhat close to 65, but 84 seems a bit high.


      if you do the math tho, 1626.1 miles / 84.1 mpg, then you 19.33 gallons of Vin Diesel. I thought the passat has an 18.7 tank. filled to the brim, and w fuel already in the lines, i doubt that could make up the .6 gallon difference.

    16. 05-09-2012 11:30 AM #41
      Quote Originally Posted by dub01 View Post
      The VW dealer sells small containers (1/2 gal.) to the public. They have a special nozzle to attach it to the filler to reduce spills. The 2.5 gal. containers are a bit more inconvenient for the regular consumer to use as it needs a machine to be able to pump it into the tank.
      Interesting. This wasn't the case in 2010 when I was researching diesel cars from VW. At least in the Touareg it was a service only type of deal. Not sure if that was a VW restriction or a gov't.

    17. 05-09-2012 11:33 AM #42
      Quote Originally Posted by Grey Mouser View Post
      Interesting. Too bad you can't just buy adblue outright and do it yourself. (I've read you can get it at truck stops if you happen to be so lucky)... but the dealer won't sell it to you, it's a service type item?

      Has that changed?
      ?? Never was that way - DEF (Diesel Exaust Fluid) started out w/somewhat limited availability, but is now pretty much available everywhere - even @ Wallyworld. Just be sure to use the AdBlue filler (don't want to spill it - see B7 forum).

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      05-09-2012 11:34 AM #43
      Quote Originally Posted by Grey Mouser View Post
      Interesting. This wasn't the case in 2010 when I was researching diesel cars from VW. At least in the Touareg it was a service only type of deal. Not sure if that was a VW restriction or a gov't.
      I think it was just slow rollout. We didn't have any at our dealership for about 3 months after the Touareg TDI V6 hit the market. I do remember watching training vids telling us that the consumer would be able to fill it on their own.
      Quote Originally Posted by Juniper Monkeys View Post
      I believe the operation parameters on those Hunter machines specifies that if the measurements for camber and toe exceed 45 degrees, the operator and the vehicle's owner are required to commit ritual suicide. So I would recommend mounting it on oil drums and making it a river boat instead.

    19. 05-09-2012 11:36 AM #44
      Quote Originally Posted by 2VWatatime View Post
      ?? Never was that way - DEF (Diesel Exaust Fluid) started out w/somewhat limited availability, but is now pretty much available everywhere - even @ Wallyworld. Just be sure to use the AdBlue filler (don't want to spill it - see B7 forum).
      Twas that way in 2010. AdBlue was a dealer only type deal. Maybe it was just slow rollout like dub01 says.

    20. 05-09-2012 11:40 AM #45
      Quote Originally Posted by Grey Mouser View Post
      Twas that way in 2010. AdBlue was a dealer only type deal. Maybe it was just slow rollout like dub01 says.
      Nope. "AdBlue" is a trade name for the entire system. Diesel Exhaust Fluid (the liquid) has been around for years, and went into wide scale use over the past decade. VW here in the US didn't seem to know that - but MB did. Go figure.

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      05-09-2012 11:42 AM #46
      I wonder if the bros slampiece was giving him any dome action on that slow 1600 mile drive..

    22. 05-09-2012 11:42 AM #47
      Quote Originally Posted by 2VWatatime View Post
      Nope. "AdBlue" is a trade name for the entire system. Diesel Exhaust Fluid (the liquid) has been around for years, and went into wide scale use over the past decade. VW here in the US didn't seem to know that - but MB did. Go figure.
      Ok dude. If you say so. All I know is my VW dealer, in 2010 told me that AdBlue could only be added by the dealer (or perhaps was just part of the 10/20/30k maint) on the bigger motors. It was a non issue on my JSW TDI since it didn't need it.

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      05-09-2012 11:44 AM #48
      Quote Originally Posted by Grey Mouser View Post
      Interesting. Too bad you can't just buy adblue outright and do it yourself. (I've read you can get it at truck stops if you happen to be so lucky)... but the dealer won't sell it to you, it's a service type item?

      Has that changed?
      my dealer sold me the big bottle for $8. we don't need it as the T3 is covered under 36mo/36K miles warranty and service, but I thought about having it for a spare in case.
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      The boobs. I am waiting on the boobs here.

    24. 05-09-2012 11:45 AM #49
      Considering Ford managed this: http://gas2.org/2010/06/25/ford-must...ol-race-track/
      I don't know why anyone would think they are outright lying. Still, sounds boring as hell.

    25. 05-09-2012 11:46 AM #50
      Quote Originally Posted by Grey Mouser View Post
      Ok dude. If you say so. All I know is my VW dealer, in 2010 told me that AdBlue could only be added by the dealer (or perhaps was just part of the 10/20/30k maint) on the bigger motors. It was a non issue on my JSW TDI since it didn't need it.
      As is all too often, VW dealer was, well, fill in your own phrase. Ah well.

      Oh, and I'm not "saying so". There's this thing called "google". Try it w/Diesel Exhaust Fluid sometime. It may be educational...
      Last edited by 2VWatatime; 05-09-2012 at 11:50 AM.

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