Buying a DV, which is best!!

[DB_VW]

Hi all! looking for a high quality, good sounding DV.


I've been looking at the:

Forge 007
Forge 008

APR r1.


Any others, or are these my only options that are high quality?

[ArcticFox]

I have an APR R1. It reacts like stock valve which is pretty fast and doesnt require maintance.

[18t papa]

I've heard mixed things about the R1, the 007 has a very good reputation though.

[DB_VW]

I have an APR R1. It reacts like stock valve which is pretty fast and doesnt require maintance.

Does it sound any different?


and forge does have a good rep, but there SO expensive.

[18t papa]

DV's don't really have any sound and the R1 is about $30 more than the 007, its sort of a no brainer.

[DB_VW]

DV's don't really have any sound and the R1 is about $30 more than the 007, its sort of a no brainer.

i was told a high quality DV has a different pitch then our stock ones, is that false??

[18t papa]

i was told a high quality DV has a different pitch then our stock ones, is that false??

Unless it vents air to the atmosphere your not going to notice any difference, especially with the DV in the stock location.

[DB_VW]

Unless it vents air to the atmosphere your not going to notice any difference, especially with the DV in the stock location.

Is there another location?

[Rathroe]

There is a relocater kit that relocates the DV to up near the airbox

[DB_VW]

There is a relocater kit that relocates the DV to up near the airbox

where do you find this? And would this increase the noise???

[vdubb3dan]

I've had the 007 on my car for going on years now, and have not had any issues with it. It doesn't make the standard bov noise until you start doing other things like an air intake, flash, and exhaust. Mine sounds pretty good at 17lbs of boost.

[DB_VW]

I've had the 007 on my car for going on years now, and have not had any issues with it. It doesn't make the standard bov noise until you start doing other things like an air intake, flash, and exhaust. Mine sounds pretty good at 17lbs of boost.

If the sound is the same, then i'll be picking up the APR r1, requires zero maintenance and I just like APR stuff and its 30$ cheaper.

I'm just looking for the sound right now, I'm thinking about doing the COAM intake, as the boys over on passat world seem to bet dollars to donuts that it sounds good, and also adds performance.

[Rathroe]

I'm just looking for the sound right now, I'm thinking about doing the COAM intake, as the boys over on passat world seem to bet dollars to donuts that it sounds good, and also adds performance.

If your just looking for the sound invest in a 2 stage bov/splitter. They will give you a weak sound but its sound.

I still dont understand the COAM honestly. PW argues vehemently against any and all CAI and SRI including Carbonio but want to drill holes into the stock box.

[DB_VW]

If your just looking for the sound invest in a 2 stage bov/splitter. They will give you a weak sound but its sound.

I still dont understand the COAM honestly. PW argues vehemently against any and all CAI and SRI including Carbonio but want to drill holes into the stock box.

Yeah, but eventually i'll be doing upgrades and i've heard not so great things about the splitter and its listed on forge's website for something retarded like 250$.

And I agree, but i'm told the COAM works, and it only costs like 9$ in parts. I look at it this way, try the coam, if it fails buy another stock airbox, and ill still be like 200$ richer then buying a full out CAI (carbonio is 299.99 + tax)

[18t papa]

Just pop a couple holes in the front of the box and call it a day, youll get some sound and you wont have hoses running all over the place sucking up road debris hahahaha

[DB_VW]

Just pop a couple holes in the front of the box and call it a day, youll get some sound and you wont have hoses running all over the place sucking up road debris hahahaha

simply cutting wholes in the side would have a huge negative effect, sucking in hot air from the engine.

I'll do the hoses, its not that complicated, and ill just put mesh over the tubes. even tho, the intake would never have the suction to bring a rock up 4.5 feet of tubing on such an angle, or water for that matter.

[18t papa]

I didn't say side I said front and you'd be surprised how insignificant or even nonexistent this negative effect is, especially when your pulling air through a baking hot little baby turbocharger and a heat soaked side mount intercooler. Mighty Car Mods did dyno runs on a turbo and nonturbo car with every intake setup possible and unless you have your intake sitting in front of the car on the outside of the bumper it makes literally no difference what setup your running. The only difference is sound.

[DB_VW]

I didn't say side I said front and you'd be surprised how insignificant or even nonexistent this negative effect is, especially when your pulling air through a baking hot little baby turbocharger and a heat soaked side mount intercooler. Mighty Car Mods did dyno runs on a turbo and nonturbo car with every intake setup possible and unless you have your intake sitting in front of the car on the outside of the bumper it makes literally no difference what setup your running. The only difference is sound.

did you do that to your airbox?

[18t papa]

Yeah it has 2 2" holes in the front of it now if I remember correctly, felt absolutely no difference in power vs stock vs COAM, there may be a 1-2 hp increase or decrease but that is so insignificant it doesn't even matter. To get a noticable power increase and temp decrease a FMIC and powergasket are your best bet. I'm doing both next week

[DB_VW]

Yeah it has 2 2" holes in the front of it now if I remember correctly, felt absolutely no difference in power vs stock vs COAM, there may be a 1-2 hp increase or decrease but that is so insignificant it doesn't even matter. To get a noticable power increase and temp decrease a FMIC and powergasket are your best bet. I'm doing both next week

and the sound difference is noticable??

[18t papa]

With the drilled airbox? A little. No woosh sound during shifts but a nice intake noise. I'm comparing stock DV to a relocated Forge 004 so I may be a little biased

[DB_VW]

With the drilled airbox? A little. No woosh sound during shifts but a nice intake noise. I'm comparing stock DV to a relocated Forge 004 so I may be a little biased

I think i'm set on buying the APR r1, would i get a good noise from relocating the DV?

[18t papa]

I had my turbosmart valve in full DV mode to do some tests when it was relocated and I didn't hear anything. Unless you vent to the atmosphere you will get no sound.

[DB_VW]

I had my turbosmart valve in full DV mode to do some tests when it was relocated and I didn't hear anything. Unless you vent to the atmosphere you will get no sound.

so relocating doesn't make a single difference

Strange if you have a CAI and a decent DV you can hear it clear as day.

[For Seeking Heat]

I had one from Stratmosphere on mine. Gave a more pronounced "woosh" than stock, but not obnoxious w/ a swiss cheesed air box.

[DB_VW]

I had one from Stratmosphere on mine. Gave a more pronounced "woosh" than stock, but not obnoxious w/ a swiss cheesed air box.

Would that be the hyperboost?

[18t papa]

so relocating doesn't make a single difference

Strange if you have a CAI and a decent DV you can hear it clear as day.

Relocating helps throttle response and makes servicing the DV 10000 times easier, and clear as day compared to my 004 or even my turbosmart hybrid valve? No way Jose.

[DB_VW]

Relocating helps throttle response and makes servicing the DV 10000 times easier, and clear as day compared to my 004 or even my turbosmart hybrid valve? No way Jose.

So your saying i should use some sort of splitter valve.

Googled the turbosmart is it called the "Kompact Dual Port"?

[honda2vw03]

If the sound is the same, then i'll be picking up the APR r1, requires zero maintenance and I just like APR stuff and its 30$ cheaper.

I'm just looking for the sound right now, I'm thinking about doing the COAM intake, as the boys over on passat world seem to bet dollars to donuts that it sounds good, and also adds performance.

let me comment on the part that says "requires zero maintenance"! im not knocking what you are saying but please keep in mind that ANYTHING and EVERYTHING man made can and WILL break! everything requires maintenance! now whether they made it maintenance free or not is a different story but i wouldnt completely trust a "no maintenance required" sign!

[honda2vw03]

and i have a brand new 007 forge valve i can sell anyone on here for cheap! brand new! i know wrong forum but its just laying around and this is the perfect thread to put it in!

and if you want noises to come out of the engine bay, swiss cheese the airbox and buy a splitter from forge!

[DB_VW]

and i have a brand new 007 forge valve i can sell anyone on here for cheap! brand new! i know wrong forum but its just laying around and this is the perfect thread to put it in!

and if you want noises to come out of the engine bay, swiss cheese the airbox and buy a splitter from forge!

Now this topic is veering off, which is fine!

I went through forge's product list.

I don't really understand the forge 004 -130$ (it doesn't look anything like the other dv's/hybrids)
The forge splitter, they want 195$ off forge (bad place to look but still thats big $)
The turbosmart one looks interesting (I forget the price)

I'm not sure who else makes hybrids.

[For Seeking Heat]

Would that be the hyperboost?

Yeah, Hyperboost. Ran it for 2 years w/o issue. Think I picked it up for $115.

[DB_VW]

Yeah, Hyperboost. Ran it for 2 years w/o issue. Think I picked it up for $115.

Yeah they look like good quality, but i think im stuck on a hybrid of some sort.

[E CODE]

Short ram, TIP, and reverse mounted Forge 007 and your engine makes a neat little chirp when the DV recirculates.... No extra stuff needed...

[DB_VW]

Short ram, TIP, and reverse mounted Forge 007 and your engine makes a neat little chirp when the DV recirculates.... No extra stuff needed...

For the price of the 007, i can just get a splitter.

ANd i don't want to use a cone filter, that noticable distorts performance (so i'm told).

Ill just swiss cheese it.