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    1. 05-10-2012 06:08 PM #106
      Don't even bother all quoting or going back and forth with c4 a6. Mr. stock honda public road speed racer there wouldn't have a rational idea in his head. All I ever see him post "wouldn't this be like this wouldn't that it should be more like." you know what, how about, from all of tcl, just STFU. Surprised he didn't sh*t bricks when he saw all the mark 3's, and 2's in the track toy thread. Classic self pwning.

      So this thread turned into a what/which takes more mad skillz to drag thread. There are allot of variables so it's hard to impossible to say, in general, that auto or manual require more skill. I like to think of them as different styles/types of skill.

      Quote Originally Posted by Lieutenant Dan View Post
      There's a video online of a FWD Manual VW race car from Argentina that's in the 8's. There's a in-car camera view of him 1 handing it down the track fighting torque steer, and shifting with the other hand. It's insane, I hope I can find it.
      No doubt. Even with launch control, FWD with power it's a beotch.
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    2. 05-10-2012 07:59 PM #107

      Someone just hasn't told you. Technically, and internally to VW, it's JUST a GTI. It uses the golf body, but isn't a golf per se. It's why the back of GTIs say GTI, and not Golf GTI. It's why the back of Golfs say Golf. The golf part is assumed and not written for GTIs, because it obviously only ever/will ever used the golf shell. It's OFTEN spoken and written "Golf GTI" throughout the years, which is ok, but incorrect. It's been like this for all generations. )
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      05-10-2012 08:10 PM #108
      Quote Originally Posted by C4 A6 View Post
      I still don't like how a x.99 = x-second car. Just seems like a dick swinging contest when you say stuff like "Oh, I've got a 12 second car. It ran a 12.95."
      Kinda agree. I know nothing about drag racing, but after watching that video if someone asked me how fast is that car, I'd say well I watched it run mid 9s a bunch of times with one pass being .01 second less than 9. I wouldn't say that there is a car that runs in the 8 second range. I wouldn't tell people it was an 8 second car, I'd call in a 9 second car. But that's just me. And like I said, I'm not into drag racing.

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      05-10-2012 08:14 PM #109
      Quote Originally Posted by chris@revotechnik View Post
      Guy runs 8.99 and his buddy runs a 9.00. The guy with the 9.00 will tell guy with the 8.99.. "great 8 second run.."
      Well then why aren't the timing clocks just in seconds? Why do they go down to split seconds?

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      05-10-2012 08:23 PM #110
      Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
      Well then why aren't the timing clocks just in seconds? Why do they go down to split seconds?
      Are you serious, or just trolling?

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      05-10-2012 08:25 PM #111
      Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
      Well then why aren't the timing clocks just in seconds? Why do they go down to split seconds?


      Who wins then? Ideally they should be crossing the stripe around the same time. Read the NHRA rule book and it will make more sense on the time breaks.
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      05-10-2012 08:34 PM #112
      If 8.99 is a great '8 second run' then why bother with the .99? Fair question. Maybe we should just round everything down the nearest whole number? That way all 100m runners in the Olympics could say they had a great 9 second run.

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      05-10-2012 08:35 PM #113
      Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
      If 8.99 is a great '8 second run' then why bother with the .99? Fair question. Maybe we should just round everything down the nearest whole number? That way all 100m runners in the Olympics could say they had a great 9 second run.
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      05-10-2012 08:36 PM #114
      My take on it is the car is now in the 8s

      it is capable of running in the 8 second range

      which some argue makes it an 8 second car

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      05-10-2012 08:40 PM #115
      Quote Originally Posted by thisisdog View Post
      My take on it is the car is now in the 8s

      it is capable of running in the 8 second range

      which some argue makes it an 8 second car
      Basically.
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      05-10-2012 08:48 PM #116
      Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
      If 8.99 is a great '8 second run' then why bother with the .99? Fair question. Maybe we should just round everything down the nearest whole number? That way all 100m runners in the Olympics could say they had a great 9 second run.
      Its a milestone pass for that model. Thats pretty brag worthy. It may not ever reach 7 seconds and shaving fractions of a second off will not be easy. Right now its a high 8 second car, they will shoot for mid 8s , then low 8s. Thats how you breakdown the fractions of a second.

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      05-10-2012 09:42 PM #117
      This takes no skill:





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      05-10-2012 09:54 PM #118
      These guys don't "get it". I grew up with a father that was a top fuel dragster pilot. It takes a quite a bit of skill to launch a high powered car consistently, and just keep the damn thing straight while enduring g-forces that would knock the average Joe unconscious, and that's before you pull the chutes, and decelerate from 300 MPH to less than 90 in a few feet.

      Granted were not talking about 4 second dragsters here, but to the average guy a 12 second car is scary fast; let alone something capable of 11's or lower.

      Most guys in this thread wouldn't be able to stand, and would be shaking like a leaf after a 12-10 second pass. Any faster than that is akin to getting shot out of a gun.

      Just sayin..

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      that dyno throttle response is hilariously awesome

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      05-10-2012 09:58 PM #120
      Quote Originally Posted by dubinsincuwereindiapers View Post
      These guys don't "get it". I grew up with a father that was a top fuel dragster pilot. It takes a quite a bit of skill to launch a high powered car consistently, and just keep the damn thing straight while enduring g-forces that would knock the average Joe unconscious, and that's before you pull the chutes, and decelerate from 300 MPH to less than 90 in a few feet.

      Granted were not talking about 4 second dragsters here, but to the average guy a 12 second car is scary fast; let alone something capable of 11's or lower.

      Most guys in this thread wouldn't be able to stand, and would be shaking like a leaf after a 12-10 second pass. Any faster than that is akin to getting shot out of a gun.

      Just sayin..
      Is that 12.99 or 12.00? Cuz you know a 12.99 is a 13 second car and that's not fast at all right?
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      05-10-2012 10:01 PM #121
      Some of you make me wonder if you ever rode in a 14 sec vehicle, much less "know" how fast 8.99 really is.

      When going that fast, .4 seconds may be the difference of 70-100hp...

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      05-10-2012 10:22 PM #122
      Also another fun drag racing fact, is that a car ahead of you in opposite lane can provide some slip stream and ease drag. Its not much because the car isn't exactly in the slipstream but it's better than pushing still air. In a bracket race like the one in the original post, a faster car can be even faster than it's normal ET/MPH when overtaking a slower car. In a heads up race, a slower car will generally be faster than it's normal ET/MPH.
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    18. 05-10-2012 10:34 PM #123
      Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
      If 8.99 is a great '8 second run' then why bother with the .99? Fair question. Maybe we should just round everything down the nearest whole number? That way all 100m runners in the Olympics could say they had a great 9 second run.
      Saying stupid isht like this is why people want you banned.

    19. 05-10-2012 10:39 PM #124
      Quote Originally Posted by blown_sixdub View Post
      Hmmm

      Mark 2 you got me there. No mark 3 gti badge had Golf on it. Think this was the conscientious over in those forums.
      Quote Originally Posted by Rutledge View Post
      Did you know that it's not pronounced Em Kay ? ALL OF THE CAR LOUNGE WILL BE HAPPY TO LET YOU KNOW THAT. SERIOUSLY. IT STANDS FOR MARK. DID YOU KNOW THAT? BEFORE THAT A1,A2, A3, ETC WAS USED. LIVE UP TO TCL STANDARDS BEFORE YOU GET ON MY ASS. THAT'S DISGUSTING.
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      05-10-2012 10:57 PM #125
      Quote Originally Posted by emkaytree View Post
      Mark 2 you got me there. No mark 3 gti badge had Golf on it. Think this was the conscientious over in those forums.
      Yet the mk3 gti had the same engine, transmission, and set up as the mk3 golf ... you aren't helping your case.

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      05-10-2012 11:01 PM #126
      Quote Originally Posted by emkaytree View Post
      Mark 2 you got me there. No mark 3 gti badge had Golf on it. Think this was the conscientious over in those forums.
      1) that is a mk1
      2) Everywhere IN THE WORLD except the United States, it is the Golf GTI, Golf R32, etc., there are also Polo GTIs, Lupo GTIs, there was a Scirocco GTI. Think VW called Mk1 and Mk5 hatches "Rabbits" around the rest of the globe? You be wrong. They're Golfs. Tarted up, improved Golfs.

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      05-10-2012 11:10 PM #127
      either way...that thing is fast.

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      05-11-2012 12:05 AM #128
      Quote Originally Posted by dubinsincuwereindiapers View Post
      G-forces that would knock the average Joe unconscious, any faster than that is akin to getting shot out of a gun.

      Just sayin..
      Well a top fuel dragster pulls about 4 to 5 Gs according to Wikipedia and you won't pass out till 7 Gs in a jet so, you're not quite going to pass out from a Mustang. And the speed of a bullet is about 680 miles per hour so the Mustang's not quite in the same range as being shot out of a gun.

      But I do agree it's pretty cool to watch. I still think it's funny to call 8.99 seconds, 8 seconds. But hey it's not my sport. Next time I bench press 201 lbs I'm going to round it up to 300.

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      05-11-2012 12:08 AM #129
      Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
      Well a top fuel dragster pulls about 4 to 5 Gs according to Wikipedia and you won't pass out till 7 Gs in a jet so, you're not quite going to pass out from a Mustang. And the speed of a bullet is about 680 miles per hour so the Mustang's not quite in the same range as being shot out of a gun.

      But I do agree it's pretty cool to watch. I still think it's funny to call 8.99 seconds, 8 seconds. But hey it's not my sport. Next time I bench press 201 lbs I'm going to round it up to 300.

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      05-11-2012 12:10 AM #130
      Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
      Next time I bench press 201 lbs I'm going to round it up to 300.
      Still not the same. Try again.

    26. 05-11-2012 12:58 AM #131
      Quote Originally Posted by 71camaro View Post
      Still not the same. Try again.
      Is it like when they say gas is now less than $4.00 a gallon and driving to the gas station to find it's $3.99 9/10ths?

      That car in theOP is impressive. Friends I know in drag racing would say it can run high 8s. When they shave that time down they'll be in mid-8s or low 8s. Unless of course the runn a 7.999.

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      05-11-2012 12:59 AM #132
      Why does everything have to go full retard...

      I expect it with obvious troll threads, but this is just about a damn fast car.
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    28. 05-11-2012 01:23 AM #133
      While I agree with all saying an 8.99 is an 8 second car, I just feel like a lot of the nitpickery, skullduggery, ****ery and general argumentativeness in here could be avoided with some adjectives.

      Low and high, come to mind.
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      05-11-2012 01:41 AM #134
      I watched an ADRL event last weekend.

      These 8-second cars now look sleep-inducingly slow

      The ADRL guys were doing <4 second 1/8th miles at 200+ MPH

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      05-11-2012 01:59 AM #135
      Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
      Well a top fuel dragster pulls about 4 to 5 Gs according to Wikipedia and you won't pass out till 7 Gs in a jet so, you're not quite going to pass out from a Mustang. 0.
      Though it doesnt apply to the car in question, you are forgetting that they get 4-5 positive Gs on launch and 4-5 negative Gs when the chute is pulled. All within 4 seconds. Its quite the stress on the body.

      Quote Originally Posted by Murderface View Post
      I watched an ADRL event last weekend.

      These 8-second cars now look sleep-inducingly slow

      The ADRL guys were doing <4 second 1/8th miles at 200+ MPH
      1/8th mile 8 second cars are slower than 1/4 mile 8 second cars. 8 seconds is flying in a 1/4 mile. Plus watching drag racing on tv takes longer than the actual pass due to cutting to different angles. You have to be there.

      I work at a drag strip on the safety crew and seeing an 8 second car coming at you from the top end makes you appreciate just how much real estate they can cover. We had a 66 nova doing mid 8s last weekend ( just a test and tune/ bracket race) and you couldnt help but notice and appreciate how quick it was.
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      05-11-2012 02:05 AM #136
      Quote Originally Posted by VR6GTI72 View Post
      Though it doesnt apply to the car in question, you are forgetting that they get 4-5 positive Gs on launch and 4-5 negative Gs when the chute is pulled. All within 4 seconds. Its quite the stress on the body.



      1/8th mile 8 second cars are slower than 1/4 mile 8 second cars. 8 seconds is flying in a 1/4 mile. Plus watching drag racing on tv takes longer than the actual pass due to cutting to different angles. You have to be there.

      I work at a drag strip on the safety crew and seeing an 8 second car coming at you from the top end makes you appreciate just how much real estate they can cover. We had a 66 nova doing mid 8s last weekend ( just a test and tune/ bracket race) and you couldnt help but notice and appreciate how quick it was.
      Well, he said they were running 4s, so they would be like 7 second cars,

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      05-11-2012 02:24 AM #137
      Quote Originally Posted by 71camaro View Post
      Well, he said they were running 4s, so they would be like 7 second cars,
      Right but ( if Im reading it correctly) He was comparing an 8 second 1/4 mile pass to a 4 second 1/8 mile pass. Of course it will seem much faster its half the track and half the time. Even though the cars are almost in the same category. Not scoffing at the 4 second pass just watching it on TV will take some perspective away.
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      05-11-2012 06:04 AM #138
      Quote Originally Posted by KC Jazz View Post
      couldn't agree more with you guys.

      start talking about drag racing in TCL and it gets ridiculous
      Lately, everything has been getting ridiculous. BRZwhatever threads that go on 11+ pages, etc...

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      05-11-2012 07:02 AM #139
      The first number is all that matters. NHRA rules state once you get into the 13s (13.99) you're required to start modifying it for safety:


      The reason? once you get into whatever number, it's possible that a good drive will net a significantly faster time (measured in TENTHS of seconds)

      Though most guys say they run 'high XXs' when they're in the .7s and up.

      or 'low XXs' when below .4

      At the 10s and under level of performance, a poorly driven car could run high 10s while the same car, perfectly driven could run low 10s

      we're talking about 10ths of seconds.

      I bet most of the 'haters' on here would be lucky to be consistent with a car that runs 14s.

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      05-11-2012 07:04 AM #140
      Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
      Well a top fuel dragster pulls about 4 to 5 Gs according to Wikipedia and you won't pass out till 7 Gs in a jet so, you're not quite going to pass out from a Mustang. And the speed of a bullet is about 680 miles per hour so the Mustang's not quite in the same range as being shot out of a gun.

      But I do agree it's pretty cool to watch. I still think it's funny to call 8.99 seconds, 8 seconds. But hey it's not my sport. Next time I bench press 201 lbs I'm going to round it up to 300.
      Shouldn't you be having the dealer change the oil in your bone stock bitch basket, while you take 100's of pictures of the other bone stock cars in the showroom or something?

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