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      05-10-2012 05:42 PM #101
      Some of you are doing a lot of this. It's not a taxed item, if something is $24.99 OTD then it is $24.99 not $25. A taxed shirt that is $24.99 is not $24.99, here in Texas it would be $27.05. Terrible example.

      So if you were on a road course and the guy next to you lost by .01, you'd give him the win, or at least tie right? Because .01 doesn't matter.

      Do you know how much money is spent in the sporting world for .01?

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      05-10-2012 05:47 PM #102
      Quote Originally Posted by arethirdytwo View Post
      Some of you are doing a lot of this. It's not a taxed item, if something is $24.99 OTD then it is $24.99 not $25. A taxed shirt that is $24.99 is not $24.99, here in Texas it would be $27.05. Terrible example.

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      Yea the dollar analogy isnt right. Its mainly for safety and setting the rules for the category it falls into.
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      05-10-2012 05:48 PM #103
      Quote Originally Posted by djsheijkdfj View Post


      So a car that is only capable of making a 9 second pass is somehow "enabled" with the right driver to suddenly make an 8 second pass?
      If you say driver skill means that much, then yes. And don't forget about environmental factors as well.

    4. 05-10-2012 05:48 PM #104
      The video title is "First 2011 Mustang GT 5.0L Factory Auto [/b]In The 8's[/b]! 8.99@153MPH"


      It isn't OMG FIRST MUSTANG TO RUN A SET OF RUNS WITH A NORMAL DISTRIBUTION CENTRED AROUND THE MID 8 SECOND MARK.

    5. 05-10-2012 06:00 PM #105
      Quote Originally Posted by SchnellFowVay View Post
      There is. It means that the car runs in the EIGHT SECOND RANGE -- AS IN THE RANGE OF CALCULATED TIME FROM 8.00 - 8.99 seconds.

      Put differently, because it is FASTER THAN ANY OTHER CAR THAT RUNS 9.00 SECONDS OR MORE, it is an 8-second car.

      How would you break it down? 8.50 = 9 second car? 8.49= 8 second car?

      How is this concept so difficult to grasp?
      Also, it is better for safety. If they say less than 11 seconds you need a cage, 11.99 covers more people.
      This is also why people say they 'broke into the 10's/9's/8's/etc'

    6. 05-10-2012 06:08 PM #106
      Don't even bother all quoting or going back and forth with c4 a6. Mr. stock honda public road speed racer there wouldn't have a rational idea in his head. All I ever see him post "wouldn't this be like this wouldn't that it should be more like." you know what, how about, from all of tcl, just STFU. Surprised he didn't sh*t bricks when he saw all the mark 3's, and 2's in the track toy thread. Classic self pwning.

      So this thread turned into a what/which takes more mad skillz to drag thread. There are allot of variables so it's hard to impossible to say, in general, that auto or manual require more skill. I like to think of them as different styles/types of skill.

      Quote Originally Posted by Lieutenant Dan View Post
      There's a video online of a FWD Manual VW race car from Argentina that's in the 8's. There's a in-car camera view of him 1 handing it down the track fighting torque steer, and shifting with the other hand. It's insane, I hope I can find it.
      No doubt. Even with launch control, FWD with power it's a beotch.
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      05-10-2012 07:59 PM #107

      Someone just hasn't told you. Technically, and internally to VW, it's JUST a GTI. It uses the golf body, but isn't a golf per se. It's why the back of GTIs say GTI, and not Golf GTI. It's why the back of Golfs say Golf. The golf part is assumed and not written for GTIs, because it obviously only ever/will ever used the golf shell. It's OFTEN spoken and written "Golf GTI" throughout the years, which is ok, but incorrect. It's been like this for all generations. )
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      05-10-2012 08:10 PM #108
      Quote Originally Posted by C4 A6 View Post
      I still don't like how a x.99 = x-second car. Just seems like a dick swinging contest when you say stuff like "Oh, I've got a 12 second car. It ran a 12.95."
      Kinda agree. I know nothing about drag racing, but after watching that video if someone asked me how fast is that car, I'd say well I watched it run mid 9s a bunch of times with one pass being .01 second less than 9. I wouldn't say that there is a car that runs in the 8 second range. I wouldn't tell people it was an 8 second car, I'd call in a 9 second car. But that's just me. And like I said, I'm not into drag racing.

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      05-10-2012 08:14 PM #109
      Quote Originally Posted by chris@revotechnik View Post
      Guy runs 8.99 and his buddy runs a 9.00. The guy with the 9.00 will tell guy with the 8.99.. "great 8 second run.."
      Well then why aren't the timing clocks just in seconds? Why do they go down to split seconds?

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      05-10-2012 08:23 PM #110
      Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
      Well then why aren't the timing clocks just in seconds? Why do they go down to split seconds?
      Are you serious, or just trolling?

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      05-10-2012 08:25 PM #111
      Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
      Well then why aren't the timing clocks just in seconds? Why do they go down to split seconds?


      Who wins then? Ideally they should be crossing the stripe around the same time. Read the NHRA rule book and it will make more sense on the time breaks.
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      05-10-2012 08:34 PM #112
      If 8.99 is a great '8 second run' then why bother with the .99? Fair question. Maybe we should just round everything down the nearest whole number? That way all 100m runners in the Olympics could say they had a great 9 second run.

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      05-10-2012 08:35 PM #113
      Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
      If 8.99 is a great '8 second run' then why bother with the .99? Fair question. Maybe we should just round everything down the nearest whole number? That way all 100m runners in the Olympics could say they had a great 9 second run.
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      05-10-2012 08:36 PM #114
      My take on it is the car is now in the 8s

      it is capable of running in the 8 second range

      which some argue makes it an 8 second car

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      05-10-2012 08:40 PM #115
      Quote Originally Posted by thisisdog View Post
      My take on it is the car is now in the 8s

      it is capable of running in the 8 second range

      which some argue makes it an 8 second car
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      05-10-2012 08:48 PM #116
      Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
      If 8.99 is a great '8 second run' then why bother with the .99? Fair question. Maybe we should just round everything down the nearest whole number? That way all 100m runners in the Olympics could say they had a great 9 second run.
      Its a milestone pass for that model. Thats pretty brag worthy. It may not ever reach 7 seconds and shaving fractions of a second off will not be easy. Right now its a high 8 second car, they will shoot for mid 8s , then low 8s. Thats how you breakdown the fractions of a second.

      Whos "we"? People that dont know about drag racing?
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      05-10-2012 09:42 PM #117
      This takes no skill:





      (Yes, he grabs second gear while still in the air!)
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      05-10-2012 09:54 PM #118
      These guys don't "get it". I grew up with a father that was a top fuel dragster pilot. It takes a quite a bit of skill to launch a high powered car consistently, and just keep the damn thing straight while enduring g-forces that would knock the average Joe unconscious, and that's before you pull the chutes, and decelerate from 300 MPH to less than 90 in a few feet.

      Granted were not talking about 4 second dragsters here, but to the average guy a 12 second car is scary fast; let alone something capable of 11's or lower.

      Most guys in this thread wouldn't be able to stand, and would be shaking like a leaf after a 12-10 second pass. Any faster than that is akin to getting shot out of a gun.

      Just sayin..

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      05-10-2012 09:56 PM #119
      that dyno throttle response is hilariously awesome

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      05-10-2012 09:58 PM #120
      Quote Originally Posted by dubinsincuwereindiapers View Post
      These guys don't "get it". I grew up with a father that was a top fuel dragster pilot. It takes a quite a bit of skill to launch a high powered car consistently, and just keep the damn thing straight while enduring g-forces that would knock the average Joe unconscious, and that's before you pull the chutes, and decelerate from 300 MPH to less than 90 in a few feet.

      Granted were not talking about 4 second dragsters here, but to the average guy a 12 second car is scary fast; let alone something capable of 11's or lower.

      Most guys in this thread wouldn't be able to stand, and would be shaking like a leaf after a 12-10 second pass. Any faster than that is akin to getting shot out of a gun.

      Just sayin..
      Is that 12.99 or 12.00? Cuz you know a 12.99 is a 13 second car and that's not fast at all right?
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      05-10-2012 10:01 PM #121
      Some of you make me wonder if you ever rode in a 14 sec vehicle, much less "know" how fast 8.99 really is.

      When going that fast, .4 seconds may be the difference of 70-100hp...

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      05-10-2012 10:22 PM #122
      Also another fun drag racing fact, is that a car ahead of you in opposite lane can provide some slip stream and ease drag. Its not much because the car isn't exactly in the slipstream but it's better than pushing still air. In a bracket race like the one in the original post, a faster car can be even faster than it's normal ET/MPH when overtaking a slower car. In a heads up race, a slower car will generally be faster than it's normal ET/MPH.
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    23. 05-10-2012 10:34 PM #123
      Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
      If 8.99 is a great '8 second run' then why bother with the .99? Fair question. Maybe we should just round everything down the nearest whole number? That way all 100m runners in the Olympics could say they had a great 9 second run.
      Saying stupid isht like this is why people want you banned.

    24. 05-10-2012 10:39 PM #124
      Quote Originally Posted by blown_sixdub View Post
      Hmmm

      Mark 2 you got me there. No mark 3 gti badge had Golf on it. Think this was the conscientious over in those forums.
      Quote Originally Posted by Rutledge View Post
      Did you know that it's not pronounced Em Kay ? ALL OF THE CAR LOUNGE WILL BE HAPPY TO LET YOU KNOW THAT. SERIOUSLY. IT STANDS FOR MARK. DID YOU KNOW THAT? BEFORE THAT A1,A2, A3, ETC WAS USED. LIVE UP TO TCL STANDARDS BEFORE YOU GET ON MY ASS. THAT'S DISGUSTING.
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      05-10-2012 10:57 PM #125
      Quote Originally Posted by emkaytree View Post
      Mark 2 you got me there. No mark 3 gti badge had Golf on it. Think this was the conscientious over in those forums.
      Yet the mk3 gti had the same engine, transmission, and set up as the mk3 golf ... you aren't helping your case.

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