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      05-10-2012 03:16 PM #51
      Quote Originally Posted by hyperformancevw View Post
      Some people don't understand how fast an 8 or even 9 second car is. There is a lot more suspension, chassis, and drive train tuning than you realize. Its not like you can take a bone stock mustang, bolt on some parts and run 8's all day.

      And no it does not take a lot of money to bracket race, just a dialed in car and some skill/practice. It only takes a lot of money to run heads up classes or if you want to go really fast.


      EDIT: I LOVE that track
      That being said, come to the DSM Shootout here in Norwalk, OH every year and you'll see all the 8-9 second $3000 DSMs ... people don't realize how stupid cheap an automatic transmission build 4G63 is ...

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      05-10-2012 03:36 PM #52
      Quote Originally Posted by djsheijkdfj View Post
      I would very much enjoy seeing you try to pilot the Mustang in the OP down the track for a 10 second pass without winding up in the wall.
      I'm not saying I could do it I was just saying when it comes to drag racing it still is more car than driver. Take away a pedal and its even less driver. I never said it was easy but if you want to go fast you have to spend more money and practice your take off.

      Quote Originally Posted by Air-over-water View Post

      Have you even been to a track...
      Yes, my brother-in-law has a camaro that runs in the 10's.


      Quote Originally Posted by hyperformancevw View Post
      Some people don't understand how fast an 8 or even 9 second car is. There is a lot more suspension, chassis, and drive train tuning than you realize. Its not like you can take a bone stock mustang, bolt on some parts and run 8's all day.

      And no it does not take a lot of money to bracket race, just a dialed in car and some skill/practice. It only takes a lot of money to run heads up classes or if you want to go really fast.


      EDIT: I LOVE that track
      This is basically what I was saying. If you give two people those bone stock mustangs with one driver that is good with a stick and another who is not it will come down to the driver. If both cars are automatics the race should be closer until some money is spend.

      I never intended to imply no skill is required to launch an 8 second car, I was just replying to the OP's pointing out that it was an automatic.

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      05-10-2012 03:38 PM #53
      Quote Originally Posted by R32R1 View Post
      In the end, it's still a mustang
      Just like no matter what ever's done to your Golf, that's all it will ever be.
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      05-10-2012 03:44 PM #54
      I don't give a rats ass about drag racing (see my sig), but I am a stickler for stats.
      Is gas that's $3.999 a gallon $3 gas?
      Is a $24.99 shirt at the store a $24 shirt?

      Just because it squeaks in at BARELY under whatever the spec is (dollars, time, etc), doesn't make it so. Mathematically, yes, a 8.99 second run could be considered an '8 second car', but in reality, there is a BIG difference between an 8 second car and a 9 second car.
      The proper terminology, in my mind, is that the Mustang runs in the 8s, but it isn't an 8 second car.
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      05-10-2012 03:44 PM #55
      Quote Originally Posted by Accidental L8 apex View Post
      Just like no matter what ever's done to your Golf, that's all it will ever be.
      ...too bad it's not a golf
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    6. 05-10-2012 03:47 PM #56
      Quote Originally Posted by R32R1 View Post
      ...too bad it's not a golf

      Are you claiming the R32 is not a golf?

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      05-10-2012 03:50 PM #57
      Quote Originally Posted by R32R1 View Post
      ...too bad it's not a golf
      Great, another one of "those guys".
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      05-10-2012 03:51 PM #58
      Quote Originally Posted by 01tj View Post
      I'm not saying I could do it I was just saying when it comes to drag racing it still is more car than driver. Take away a pedal and its even less driver. I never said it was easy but if you want to go fast you have to spend more money and practice your take off.
      Are you aware that in most drag setups with automatic transmissions, the gear changes are controlled by the driver? Just because there's 2 pedals, doesn't mean the driver doesn't control the shift points. Sure there's a giant dummy light, but still. I've only ever run 11s, and even that isn't easy.

      Quote Originally Posted by bronson75 View Post
      I don't give a rats ass about drag racing
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      05-10-2012 03:52 PM #59
      Quote Originally Posted by bronson75 View Post
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      The proper terminology, in my mind, is that the Mustang runs in the 8s, but it isn't an 8 second car.


      I think you just gave me an aneurysm.
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      05-10-2012 03:53 PM #60
      Quote Originally Posted by Air-over-water View Post

      Are you claiming the R32 is not a golf?
      It's not actually. The model is an R32. My registration says it's an R32, therefore it's an R32. It's a golf platform
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      05-10-2012 03:53 PM #61
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      Quote Originally Posted by R32R1 View Post
      It's not actually. The model is an R32. My registration says it's an R32, therefore it's an R32. It's a golf platform

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      05-10-2012 03:56 PM #63
      Quote Originally Posted by bronson75 View Post
      I don't give a rats ass about drag racing (see my sig), but I am a stickler for stats.
      Is gas that's $3.999 a gallon $3 gas?
      Is a $24.99 shirt at the store a $24 shirt?

      Just because it squeaks in at BARELY under whatever the spec is (dollars, time, etc), doesn't make it so. Mathematically, yes, a 8.99 second run could be considered an '8 second car', but in reality, there is a BIG difference between an 8 second car and a 9 second car.
      The proper terminology, in my mind, is that the Mustang runs in the 8s, but it isn't an 8 second car.
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      05-10-2012 03:57 PM #64
      Quote Originally Posted by R32R1 View Post
      It's not actually. The model is an R32. My registration says it's an R32, therefore it's an R32. It's a golf platform
      And my GTIs all said GTI on the titles, but they were Golfs. At least try and change the douchey nature of R32 ownership instead of furthering it.

      Honestly, something about owning one of those turns 99.9% of you guys into total elitests. Elitests that drive VW Golfs. If only any of you realized the sheer retardation in that fact.
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      05-10-2012 03:57 PM #65
      Quote Originally Posted by R32R1 View Post
      It's not actually. The model is an R32. My registration says it's an R32, therefore it's an R32. It's a golf platform
      Wait a minute, i may be new here... but your r32 is better than a 5.0?

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      05-10-2012 03:57 PM #66
      Quote Originally Posted by R32R1 View Post
      It's not actually. The model is an R32. My registration says it's an R32, therefore it's an R32. It's a golf platform
      Oh boy I hope you're sarcastic.

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      05-10-2012 03:58 PM #67
      Quote Originally Posted by bronson75 View Post
      I don't give a rats ass about drag racing (see my sig), but I am a stickler for stats.
      Is gas that's $3.999 a gallon $3 gas?
      Is a $24.99 shirt at the store a $24 shirt?

      Just because it squeaks in at BARELY under whatever the spec is (dollars, time, etc), doesn't make it so. Mathematically, yes, a 8.99 second run could be considered an '8 second car', but in reality, there is a BIG difference between an 8 second car and a 9 second car.
      The proper terminology, in my mind, is that the Mustang runs in the 8s, but it isn't an 8 second car.

      Actually you just made the point for the people that call an 8.99 an 8 second pass.

      Why is it 3.99 and not 4.00 for that gas? So that you go ooh its only 3 bucks.

      Why is that shirt 24.99 not 25.00 so you go ooh its only 24 bucks.



      In a timed event of any kind you don't round up because you did NOT go that full time yet.

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      05-10-2012 03:58 PM #68
      Quote Originally Posted by R32R1 View Post
      It's not actually. The model is an R32. My registration says it's an R32, therefore it's an R32. It's a golf platform

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      05-10-2012 04:00 PM #69
      Quote Originally Posted by Accidental L8 apex View Post
      And my GTIs all said GTI on the titles, but they were Golfs. At least try and change the douchey nature of R32 ownership instead of furthering it.

      Honestly, something about owning one of those turns 99.9% of you guys into total elitests. Elitests that drive VW Golfs. If only any of you realized the sheer retardation in that fact.
      haha I'm just f*cking with you...if you ever saw my R related posts, I despise stock R32s because people talk them up to being the best cars ever.
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      05-10-2012 04:00 PM #70
      Quote Originally Posted by R32R1 View Post
      It's not actually. The model is an R32. My registration says it's an R32, therefore it's an R32. It's a golf platform
      Hahahahahahahahaha.

      So the "Golf R" isn't a Golf then, it's just an "R," amirite? Someone should tell VW!!!


      Quote Originally Posted by bronson75 View Post
      The proper terminology, in my mind, is that the Mustang runs in the 8s, but it isn't an 8 second car.


      Then what, good sir, do you classify as "an 8 second car?" One that runs 8.00?
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      05-10-2012 04:01 PM #71
      Quote Originally Posted by C4 A6 View Post
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    22. 05-10-2012 04:07 PM #72
      Quote Originally Posted by bronson75 View Post
      I don't give a rats ass about drag racing (see my sig), but I am a stickler for stats.
      Is gas that's $3.999 a gallon $3 gas?
      Is a $24.99 shirt at the store a $24 shirt?

      Just because it squeaks in at BARELY under whatever the spec is (dollars, time, etc), doesn't make it so. Mathematically, yes, a 8.99 second run could be considered an '8 second car', but in reality, there is a BIG difference between an 8 second car and a 9 second car.
      The proper terminology, in my mind, is that the Mustang runs in the 8s, but it isn't an 8 second car.
      It doesn't matter what you think. It matters what the drag racing community does, and how the terminology works. And according to the people that actually do it, a 8.999 second car is an 8 second car.

      Again, it doesn't matter what you think.

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      05-10-2012 04:07 PM #73
      Quote Originally Posted by djsheijkdfj View Post
      Then what, good sir, do you classify as "an 8 second car?" One that runs 8.00?
      For me, I'd say anything that gets lower than 8.90 because at that point it's not a good driver making a 9 second car dip into the high 8.90s but the car itself being fast enough to run that fast on its own.

      But that's just me. I think the terminology is dumb and just a way for people to nutswing.
      Last edited by C4 A6; 05-10-2012 at 04:10 PM.

    24. 05-10-2012 04:10 PM #74
      Quote Originally Posted by C4 A6 View Post
      For me, I'd say anything that gets lower than 8.90 because at that point it's not a good driver making a 9 second car dip into the high 8.90s but the car itself being fast enough to run that fast on its own.
      How does that make any sense If it runs 8.999 obviously the car is capable of it. Or does it somehow defy physics because of the driver?

      What if it's a crappy driver doing 8.999s, where a good one would do a tenth quicker?

      The drag racing community has been using this terminology for ages. It's for a good reason. You're not going to reinvent the wheel.

    25. 05-10-2012 04:12 PM #75
      Quote Originally Posted by 01tj View Post
      I'm not saying I could do it I was just saying when it comes to drag racing it still is more car than driver. Take away a pedal and its even less driver. I never said it was easy but if you want to go fast you have to spend more money and practice your take off.



      Yes, my brother-in-law has a camaro that runs in the 10's.




      This is basically what I was saying. If you give two people those bone stock mustangs with one driver that is good with a stick and another who is not it will come down to the driver. If both cars are automatics the race should be closer until some money is spend.

      I never intended to imply no skill is required to launch an 8 second car, I was just replying to the OP's pointing out that it was an automatic.
      Thanks for letting us know you've never driven a fast car

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