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      05-11-2012 03:39 PM #101
      hahaha, I was just thinking the same thing! I'll represent the minivan contingent from THE OC

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      05-11-2012 03:54 PM #102
      guy guys guy... what is tcl going to think of us californians if we cant even get along with each other. we need to be united against the car lounge hate for cali
      Last edited by absoluteczech; 05-11-2012 at 07:26 PM.

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      05-11-2012 03:55 PM #103
      Quote Originally Posted by SVT2888 View Post
      We need to have another LA county TCL meet

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      05-11-2012 04:07 PM #104
      In 2003 I started an internship with a company on mid-Wilshire Blvd, and was staying with a friend in Lancaster. That was back when $1.50/gal gas was "expensive," so it seemed like a good idea at the time.

      The shortest, most freeway, least surface streets, most direct route was the taking the 14, to I-5, to the 405, and then off at Wilshire. HOLY ****... I did that once and determined to avoid using that route ever again. The 405 is a nightmare on a good day. Even my alternate highway route subjected me to the terrible going home merge between the 405 and I-5 North, because god forbid there be a way to the 14 without going through that choke point of death.

      My favorite driving route became this, for obvious reasons,


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      and any trips on the 405 were limited to needing to go to LAX. It's just a terrible road.

      The Angeles National Forest on the other hand... I'm lucky I did not dead driving the way I did on that road at age 18. Never had more fun commuting in my life.

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      05-11-2012 04:08 PM #105
      Quote Originally Posted by choochoo View Post
      You look at the SFV and have to wonder why it's even a part of the LA County.

      The SFV is barely connected to the rest of civilization. The same goes for the Antelope Valley and Santa Clarita Valley.

      Without the political and municipal boundaries... LA County and Orange County are essential one giant entity.

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      05-11-2012 04:09 PM #106
      Quote Originally Posted by absoluteczech View Post
      guy guys guy... what is tcl going to think of us californians if we can even get alone with each other. we need to be united against the car lounge hate for cali
      Fine.

      In the spirit of good-faith cooperation, I propose a new slogan for the OC:

      "Orange County: Hey, At Least It's Not Riverside!"
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      05-11-2012 04:11 PM #107
      Quote Originally Posted by genjy View Post
      You look at the SFV and have to wonder why it's even a part of the LA County.

      The SFV is barely connected to the rest of the cilivization. The same goes for the Antelope Valley.

      Without the political and municipal boundaries... LA County and Orange County are essential one giant entity.
      I think you're wrong. To, the transition into the Valley is seamless. Sure, there's a mountain range there but that's why it's called "the Valley" . And someone from Glendora shouldn't be throwing "rest of civilization" around like that.

      1. No one ever wrote a song about Glendora.
      2. You guys have bears everywhere.

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      05-11-2012 04:13 PM #108
      Quote Originally Posted by VadGTI View Post
      I think you're wrong. To, the transition into the Valley is seamless. Sure, there's a mountain range there but that's why it's called "the Valley" . And someone from Glendora shouldn't be throwing "rest of civilization" around like that.

      1. No one ever wrote a song about Glendora.
      2. You guys have bears everywhere.

      My neighbors have warned me not to leave my kid unattended outside because coyotes might attack him.

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      05-11-2012 04:15 PM #109
      Quote Originally Posted by l88m22vette View Post
      LMAO **** you guys in Cali, sure you have nice weather, but I get to actually get places on our roads (unless its snowing, or there is construction, or a massive pothole causes a flat, or....)
      We get around just fine. Don't confuse OC with livable places like LA.

      The LA Metro rail system has the 2nd highest ridership of any urban rail system in the US. LA also has the largest bus network in the US. And we have the 4th largest commuter rail system by ridership in the US.

      More people commute to work via public transportation in LA than Chicago.
















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      05-11-2012 04:21 PM #110
      Quote Originally Posted by VadGTI View Post
      Fine.

      In the spirit of good-faith cooperation, I propose a new slogan for the OC:

      "Orange County: Hey, At Least It's Not Riverside!"
      You!!!! where's the "shake fist" emoticon???

      Quote Originally Posted by genjy View Post
      You look at the SFV and have to wonder why it's even a part of the LA County.

      The SFV is barely connected to the rest of civilization. The same goes for the Antelope Valley and Santa Clarita Valley.

      Without the political and municipal boundaries... LA County and Orange County are essential one giant entity.
      Don't forget the IE!!!! nm+ will feel sad



      Quote Originally Posted by genjy View Post
      My neighbors have warned me not to leave my kid unattended outside because coyotes might attack him.
      I have this same problem no seriously

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      05-11-2012 04:23 PM #111
      Quote Originally Posted by Lwize View Post
      In a word, no. The population growth out-stripped the freeway's capacity decades ago, and there's not enough money on Earth (even if Clooney threw another fundraiser) to rebuild the freeway to a usable capacity. It's taking billions just to add a single carpool lane over a 10-mile stretch.

      Yesterday's OC closure, though, was human error, not freeway error.
      Building more freeway capacity will make traffic worse, not better. But building a subway tunnel under the Sepulveda Pass will provide alternatives to driving. It's the only solution.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sepulve...ansit_Corridor

      http://www.metro.net/projects/sfv-405/

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      05-11-2012 04:24 PM #112
      Quote Originally Posted by bzcat View Post
      We get around just fine. Don't confuse OC with livable places like LA.

      The LA Metro rail system has the 2nd highest ridership of any urban rail system in the US. LA also has the largest bus network in the US. And we have the 4th largest commuter rail system by ridership in the US.

      More people commute to work via public transportation in LA than Chicago.
      That's some pretty sweet info!

      Hey, I can get around without a car in OC, it's just, if I walk 20 minutes, I'm at the bottom of my neighborhood... If I walk another 30 minutes, I'm half way to the grocery store.

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      05-11-2012 04:29 PM #113
      Quote Originally Posted by absoluteczech View Post
      guy guys guy... what is tcl going to think of us californians if we can even get alone with each other. we need to be united against the car lounge hate for cali
      Meet at C&C, then cruise up PCH from Laguna Beach to Malibu? I would not bring the minivan for that though.... cuz that would be like..... commuting

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      05-11-2012 04:31 PM #114
      Quote Originally Posted by phryxis View Post
      That's some pretty sweet info!

      Hey, I can get around without a car in OC, it's just, if I walk 20 minutes, I'm at the bottom of my neighborhood... If I walk another 30 minutes, I'm half way to the grocery store.
      Yea, OC is a totally cluster f@ck for the most part. You have to walk 40 minutes and hop over a freeway to get to the corner Starbucks that is maybe 200 feet from your house And some how that is consider a good thing by some people.

      I like rolling off my couch and walk across the street to my Coffee Bean, at any time of the day.
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      05-11-2012 04:31 PM #115
      Quote Originally Posted by absoluteczech View Post
      guy guys guy... what is tcl going to think of us californians if we can even get alone with each other. we need to be united against the car lounge hate for cali
      I dunno about you guys but I sure as hell wouldn't want to be caught alone with another TCL SoCaler. *shudder*

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      05-11-2012 04:34 PM #116
      Quote Originally Posted by bzcat View Post
      Yea, OC is a totally cluster f@ck for the most part. You have to walk 40 minutes and hop over a freeway to get to the corner Starbucks that is maybe 200 feet from your house
      The MILFs make it worth it. Do it for the MILFs.

      Actually one of my favorite past-times is going to Costco in the afternoon and seeing all of the MILFs. Some truly amazing ones exist.

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      05-11-2012 04:36 PM #117
      Quote Originally Posted by phryxis View Post
      The MILFs make it worth it. Do it for the MILFs.

      Actually one of my favorite past-times is going to Costco in the afternoon and seeing all of the MILFs. Some truly amazing ones exist.
      Ok, this thread is now about Costco MILF

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      05-11-2012 04:39 PM #118
      Quote Originally Posted by bzcat View Post
      Ok, this thread is now about Costco MILF
      I actually registered milfsoftheoc.tumblr.com with the dream of posting, well milfs of the OC. Kinda gun shy about taking pics of milfs in public spaces though

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      05-11-2012 04:41 PM #119
      the one time i went to CA i had to drive from...Ventura to LAX...

      all i remember - traffic.

      made NY look like I-80 in PA.

      i'll take a wait @ the GWB ANY day over LA.
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      05-11-2012 04:51 PM #120
      Quote Originally Posted by bzcat View Post
      I like rolling off my couch and walk across the street to my Coffee Bean, at any time of the day.
      um, that's what the drive thru starbucks is for!!! duh!!! anyways, everything closes at 9PM in the OC. I mean, why would you want a coffee at say 10PM???? we need to sleep. some people are so weird

      Quote Originally Posted by phryxis View Post
      The MILFs make it worth it. Do it for the MILFs.

      Actually one of my favorite past-times is going to Costco in the afternoon and seeing all of the MILFs. Some truly amazing ones exist.
      Colin I will never look at you the same again.... nor will I let you near my family.... Next time my wife goes to costco, I'll make sure to warn her to avoid some perv peeking out of a white prelude or nsx.

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      05-11-2012 04:56 PM #121
      Quote Originally Posted by phryxis View Post
      The MILFs make it worth it. Do it for the MILFs.

      Actually one of my favorite past-times is going to Costco in the afternoon and seeing all of the MILFs. Some truly amazing ones exist.
      The best MILF's I ever saw where in Manhattan Beach. Damn I miss living there.

      Quote Originally Posted by choochoo View Post
      You!!!! where's the "shake fist" emoticon???


      Don't forget the IE!!!! nm+ will feel sad




      I have this same problem no seriously
      ...then I wonder how I manage 25k miles a year without ever leaving the LA-OC-Riverside area.

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      05-11-2012 04:56 PM #122
      Quote Originally Posted by choochoo View Post
      um, that's what the drive thru starbucks is for!!! duh!!! anyways, everything closes at 9PM in the OC. I mean, why would you want a coffee at say 10PM???? we need to sleep. some people are so weird
      Coffee Bean has killer waffles. Don't people in OC eat waffles late at night?



      Colin I will never look at you the same again.... nor will I let you near my family.... Next time my wife goes to costco, I'll make sure to warn her to avoid some perv peeking out of a white prelude or nsx.
      Useless without pics

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      05-11-2012 05:00 PM #123
      Quote Originally Posted by bzcat View Post
      Building more freeway capacity will make traffic worse, not better. But building a subway tunnel under the Sepulveda Pass will provide alternatives to driving. It's the only solution.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sepulve...ansit_Corridor

      http://www.metro.net/projects/sfv-405/
      I agree. I would love to take public transportation to work, but there's not enough money or time to build that system either. Tunnel through the Sepulveda Pass? Maybe in time for my grandchildren to ride it.

      As it stands now, I can drive to work in under 25 minutes, or I can walk half a mile, take two buses and get to work in 90 minutes. the sad choice is clear (and that doesn't mean find a new job!).
      Salt Lake City was not discovered by Dracula and the shark people.

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      05-11-2012 05:20 PM #124
      Quote Originally Posted by choochoo View Post


      Colin I will never look at you the same again.... nor will I let you near my family.... Next time my wife goes to costco, I'll make sure to warn her to avoid some perv peeking out of a white prelude or nsx.
      Good thing I take the nondescript and MILF camoed CR-V when I go to Costco

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      The beaches in Santa Ana are the best.
      I was about to agree... Apparently I read this wrong..

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