Besides, Georgia is too close to Florida
Is there no technical colleges down there training or retraining?
Where have all the qualified candidates gone?
I own a software company, and I'm been on Vortex since the early days. I have four positions open right now, three technical and one not. We're offering very strong salaries and benefits for all positions, and we're willing to train. Our job postings are sensibly written and prominently posted (locally at all the school online job boards, on CL and nationally on Monster), our offices are in a great location - even convenient to Atlanta's (miserable) public transit system.
I'm hiring a .NET Developer, a SQL Server DBA, an Operations/Project Manager and an In-House SEO. I get that these positions are in high demand, but Atlanta as a Tech market has always been strong.
We're getting a flood of applicants for the Operations/PM position - mostly folks with overnight degrees from for-profit colleges, and not much relevant work experience. I suspect we'll be able to fill this position, in time.
We're getting almost no applicants at all for the three technical positions. These positions have been open for 6+ months, and it's really becoming an impediment to growth of the company.
The News isn't kidding - unemployment in High Tech is truly at an all time low. As an employer with open positions in High Tech fields, this is a real bummer. I don't know whether qualified candidates just aren't out there, or if they're being snapped up by faster/bigger/better funded companies.
Besides, Georgia is too close to Florida
Is there no technical colleges down there training or retraining?
those who have dropped out of the search all together
those who can't relo due to housing market
those who are afraid of leaving current positions due to safety net (though that seems to be picking up lately)
those who think they should be paid top dollar w/o all the skills
my experience is #2 in the searching - and continue on 1099'ing until a hurricane levels the house
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OP, I feel with you - I had a technical position open for three years in the highly attractive Bay Area that I could not fill. Almost all half-way qualified applicants were from outside the US. I truly believe that US school and college kids don't understand the science&engineering and tech market, at all. They don't realize it can mean top dollars for reasonable work hours and above-average vacation and almost guaranteed top retirement and health benefits.
On the flip side, two of your jobs are Microsoft-specific - and at least here, that pool of applicants would be low just because there is relatively little demand for it, in comparison. And those applicants are usually undereducated and more on the left side of the bell curve in the more important categories.
I wish I had some software experience, there are a ton of jobs in this field in Atlanta. I do telecom system administration and need a change. I need to go back to school but then employers want experience ( It's nice to see that you are willing to train op ) but many aren't. Good luck finding employees, we have been looking for a software developer for the past year.
My company and a one of our sister companies has found very similar things. We're looking for a programmer (have no clue the specific technical details as it's not my area) and have gone through maybe 10-15 candidates. They either want too much money, generally weren't a good fit for the company, or one guy didn't want to commute 10-15 miles each way to get to work. There are absolutely jobs out there but it seems that many people just aren't qualified for one reason or another. And we really need an experienced programmer to make the copy/content I (and others in the company) develop come to life!
As a guy who is looking for a different position in IT...I'm on the opposite side of your situation.
I've been working for the same company for 5 years now in IT (3rd party, remotely now) looking for a new position. I have an Associate's from a for-profit college, as well as a military background. While my degree is not that attractive, I have a lot of experience in my work history. But I also lack certifications...
Some positions I think don't call me because of the lack of a Bachelor's....some for the lack of certifications.
I've had a couple of interviews, 1 which I was offered the position, but not enough $ (which I made clear to them from the outset how much I needed to make, and I was WELL within the range for the position in my locale), 1 which I admittedly blew the interview, I was expecting to come in and talk to 1-2 people...and ended up speaking to 7...the first one being the VP of the company..which is where I blew it lol. And a 3rd which I went through quite well and was told some of the interviewees couldn't even complete the hands on test (this is a state position) I'm still waiting to hear on this one, but I know it is in the Offering stage...and I have yet to receive and offer, so I'm obviously not their first choice...
I've never been a manager, I've never been in HR, but as a candidate for positions, my opinion is make sure you at least interview candidates who maybe don't have the degree you are looking for, but seem to have the background, and the basics of what you need. I know myself, I really want to branch out and learn more things, and experience is the only REAL way to learn it. I know a LOT more than what an Associate's from a for profit college says I know. And I have a lot of drive to excel in growing though the past 5 years in the position I'm in.
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How much are you guys paying? I will be that blunt. I am not interested but I work in IT for the Univ of GA system and we have qualified guys always looking to jump ship as long as the pay is better.
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For smart immigrants, you don't need the same level of communication skills to earn a decent living doing Software Engineering compared to medicine or law. You see almost nobody in finance & banking with lousy English language skills.
I have 15 years IT management & systems administration experience. IT Director for firms in several industries. I've done Solaris, Linux, OS X, Windoze (Active Directory & Citrix farms spread across multiple locations, Exchange migrations (), Group Policy and some virtualization), and I used to speak fluent Sendmail/Postfix/Apache/BASH.
I now play with airplanes because (1) there is ****-all for jobs that fit my skillset in this region; (2) with a Delaware address, nobody in Philly/Baltimore/DC will even respond to me even though I indicated I'd relocate at my own expense; (3) there are no "real" jobs posted on Careerbuilder/Monster/Dice/whatever... those jobs are either recruiter phishing bull****, or with larger companies they're just fulfilling their obligation to advertise to external candidates before giving it to the internal candidate that already has the qualification of "must have x years experience with our proprietary in-house software/systems/policies". The last IT interview I had around here (2 years ago) the hiring manager said he was going to pay about 2/3 of what I was making 10 years ago, and expected 70 hrs/week minimum.
I lived in Atlanta, I still own property there. If you're serious about hiring for the manager position, PM me an email address and I'll send my resume. I need a LOT more money than I'm making right now, so I'd consider doing that again if the gig is right.
I have a bachelors degree from a for profit university in IT. I have zero work experience in IT. I have been working as a teacher for the past 2 years and before that I had 5 years of CS experience. Would you give me a chance with that lack of experience?
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Finally "You see almost nobody in finance & banking with lousy English language skills" because the people you "see" need language skills, and the people "you don't see" but run everything in the background don't.
The typical physician has a few dozen IQ points over the typical IT deweeb. No way you can make it into med school without having outstanding analytical skills and the MCAT is heavily weighted to screen for it. IT is mostly stuffed full of repetitive task technicians. It's not like they have the skills to implement the platforms they manage. There are some truly gifted software engineers out there but they're not doing meatball IT for a living.
The reason .NET positions are hard to fill is because smart software people know .NET has passed its prime. I recently went through the (software engineer) job hunt and to be frank, software people are in high demand. Unless your position is interesting people will not give you any thought.
While I had my resume posted online I received 80-100 calls per day, if you're just a boring job posting offering average compensation/satisfaction you will get lost in the sea of openings.
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honestly, I think you are looking for candidates in the wrong places, I mean craigslist for a job that is mostly likely paying 80-100k ? Dice might be the best for what you are looking for, but unfortunately those types of positions can make about 50-70k more working as a W2 contractor with benefits through a third party. The whole contractor thing in IT is very prevalent. I'm an IT business analyst and looking for a job and 95% of the jobs I get contacted for or find are all contract jobs. And I hate working contract jobs.