SMOKING DIESEL - Car and Driver June issue 2012

[Kchorro]

[jimmygez]

Hmm

[capclassicv2]

That Passat 22% take rate is based on the breakdown of cars they're producing. The demand for TDI's are much higher I'm assuming.

[JennyDriscoll]

It certainly doesn't help push diesel's into the market when VW is offering their best financing rates on GAS engines. 0%? 0.9%? Absolutely those are great rates... but they're not applicable to TDI's. The rate on TDI's is 3%, 3.9%, 4.9% or higher.

If VW truly wants to push diesels into the American market, they'll consistently incentivize buyers with attractive financing rates.

[MasVW11]

It certainly doesn't help push diesel's into the market when VW is offering their best financing rates on GAS engines. 0%? 0.9%? Absolutely those are great rates... but they're not applicable to TDI's. The rate on TDI's is 3%, 3.9%, 4.9% or higher.

If VW truly wants to push diesels into the American market, they'll consistently incentivize buyers with attractive financing rates.

Agreed....with a 5-13 year payback time for the up front cost , and "excludes TDI" on every special offer, my particular amount of driving makes it hard to justify the TDI....I'm leasing my 2.5 and leasing a TDI just doesn't make financial sense....I wish it did. The residual values are higher but VW offsets those with higher money factors.....and the fuel savings does not offset the extra $ per month completely and thus the TDI costs more.

[JennyDriscoll]

Agreed....with a 5-13 year payback time for the up front cost , and "excludes TDI" on every special offer, my particular amount of driving makes it hard to justify the TDI....I'm leasing my 2.5 and leasing a TDI just doesn't make financial sense....I wish it did. The residual values are higher but VW offsets those with higher money factors.....and the fuel savings does not offset the extra $ per month completely and thus the TDI costs more.

As the saying goes, you lease a gas but you buy a diesel

[teknokrat]

As the saying goes, you lease a gas but you buy a diesel

yeah, that's the saying. heard it all my life. i think they teach it along with nursery rhymes.

seriously when have you EVER heard somebody say that other than yourself? it's not that i don't agree with you, i just think it's funny that it's now a "saying". i must have missed that meeting.

[Rico1]

It certainly doesn't help push diesel's into the market when VW is offering their best financing rates on GAS engines. 0%? 0.9%? Absolutely those are great rates... but they're not applicable to TDI's. The rate on TDI's is 3%, 3.9%, 4.9% or higher.

If VW truly wants to push diesels into the American market, they'll consistently incentivize buyers with attractive financing rates.

At this point in time, why would VW give a hoot about pushing diesels, when they're basically selling every one they make and there's a waiting list? The low financing rates are just another version of a cash incentive or whatever, and why give incentives for something that's selling. Now a Chevy Volt, that's another matter.

[JennyDriscoll]

yeah, that's the saying. heard it all my life. i think they teach it along with nursery rhymes.

seriously when have you EVER heard somebody say that other than yourself? it's not that i don't agree with you, i just think it's funny that it's now a "saying". i must have missed that meeting.

You've seriously never heard that phrase before? Wow.

[teknokrat]

You've seriously never heard that phrase before? Wow.

well if i ever hear it again, i'll be able to say i've heard it before now. =)

[JennyDriscoll]

well if i ever hear it again, i'll be able to say i've heard it before now. =)

It's not gonna bother you to know it was from (gasp) a woman now will it

[teknokrat]

It's not gonna bother you to know it was from (gasp) a woman now will it

of course not. i happen to like women. very much. =)