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      05-15-2012 10:51 AM #1
      When these were first introduced reliability and longevity were a big talking point. Now that they have been out over a year there have to be some with a decent amount of mileage. Anyone heard any reports of common issues?

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      05-15-2012 11:13 AM #3
      I've asked my friend at Ford, who's a manager in customer satisfaction, to respond to your question.
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    4. 05-15-2012 12:12 PM #4
      According to anecdotal evidence from F-150 forums, it ranges. Although very few seem to get 22+mpg, most are happy with the mileage.

      The EPA range seems to be accurate, with most people getting 19-20 mpg avg.

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      05-15-2012 01:40 PM #7
      Quote Originally Posted by Bonanza View Post
      According to anecdotal evidence from F-150 forums, it ranges. Although very few seem to get 22+mpg, most are happy with the mileage.

      The EPA range seems to be accurate, with most people getting 19-20 mpg avg.
      that's me, i've been getting around 17mpg average 50/50 in town/highway and around 21mpg on the highway.
      Note i get around 10mpg towing my 7000lb travel trailer. I've got the heaviest combination (crew/6.5ft bed along with 3:73 gears) too.
      I've got a shade over 28k km's on it with 8k km's of towing my 7000lb trailer along with plenty of car float towing time as well.
      I've not had one issue to speak of with it yet, it still feels like new after 1 year, 28k km's and plenty of real world hard use.

      Get's my seal of approval

      Two of my employees at work have bought Ecoboost powered F150's in the last year as well, neither have had any issues and they seem to get similar fuel economy.

      Mine's the white one.

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      05-15-2012 01:43 PM #8
      I'm not a truck guy, so what would a truck with an equivilant V8 get when towing 7,000 pounds? (I have no clue what the norm is)
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      05-15-2012 01:43 PM #9
      All i can add is that I rode in my friends (about 8k miles) from Tallahassee, FL to Boone, NC. It's about a 10-12hr drive and around 500-600 miles. Combination of highway, back roads, mountain roads and what not. I believe we got around 25mpg while on the highway. I'm not certain because I wasn't driving.

      I will say it is a very comfortable long haul vehicle. Even with 5 guys in the truck.
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      05-15-2012 02:07 PM #10
      i sell them at a Ford delaership in PA. I have yet to see any come in for service for any issues. I hav had ZERO complaints from customers who own them. we sell the ecoboost F150's 10 to 1 against the 5.0's

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      05-15-2012 02:11 PM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by Egz View Post
      I'm not a truck guy, so what would a truck with an equivilant V8 get when towing 7,000 pounds? (I have no clue what the norm is)

      8-10mpg, however the Ecoboost has so much low end torque that it eats up the hills and really works well when merging onto the highway with short onramps. No V8 on the market offers as much low end torque at anything close to 2500rpm like the Ecoboost does, this is why its such a great towing motor, otherwise whe not towing its powerfull and makes accelerating pretty much effortless and i love that about it.
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      05-15-2012 02:19 PM #12
      Quote Originally Posted by al@absolute View Post
      that's me, i've been getting around 17mpg average 50/50 in town/highway and around 21mpg on the highway.
      Note i get around 10mpg towing my 7000lb travel trailer. I've got the heaviest combination (crew/6.5ft bed along with 3:73 gears) too.
      I've got a shade over 28k km's on it with 8k km's of towing my 7000lb trailer along with plenty of car float towing time as well.
      I've not had one issue to speak of with it yet, it still feels like new after 1 year, 28k km's and plenty of real world hard use.

      Get's my seal of approval

      Two of my employees at work have bought Ecoboost powered F150's in the last year as well, neither have had any issues and they seem to get similar fuel economy.

      Mine's the white one.

      Nice update, oh and BTW on your pickup. It's almost exactly how I would have gotten mine, great setup.

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      05-15-2012 02:25 PM #13
      Quote Originally Posted by al@absolute View Post
      8-10mpg, however the Ecoboost has so much low end torque that it eats up the hills and really works well when merging onto the highway with short onramps. No V8 on the market offers as much low end torque at anything close to 2500rpm like the Ecoboost does, this is why its such a great towing motor, otherwise whe not towing its powerfull and makes accelerating pretty much effortless and i love that about it.
      This.

      My '08 1500(5.3) gets 10ish with a decent trailer behind it, so did my '07f150(5.4) before it. The main difference seems to be with the lightly loaded running. I'm getting 14 with the 1500 and no load. That is a HUGE percentage increase in FE when most people's running is done with no load or trailer.

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      05-15-2012 02:31 PM #14
      My 99 Silverado 5.3 did about 9 mpg towing and it really struggled with a huge load on it. That being said, my dad's 06 Hemi ram (quadcab 4x4) got 9 mpg towing the same load, but it seemed effortless. Unloaded, my 99 Silverado got 15, mostly highway. Dad's Ram got 13-14 with the same use.

      It will be interesting to see how manufacturers deal with this. The Eco boost seems to be getting about 1 mpg better all the way around, but offering better low end torque, improving the "feel" of the truck. Will we see increases in mpg in trucks without going to hybrids? I mean, the weight thing is going to be difficult to get over.

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      05-15-2012 02:37 PM #15
      Quote Originally Posted by rs4-380 View Post
      When these were first introduced reliability and longevity were a big talking point. Now that they have been out over a year there have to be some with a decent amount of mileage. Anyone heard any reports of common issues?

      Reading fail on everyone's part. He was asking about mileage on the trucks and reliability. Not MPGs
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      05-15-2012 02:43 PM #16
      Straight from the horse's mouth.

      Can you comment on the reliability of the Eco-boost in the F-150s. Inquiring minds want to know.

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      Barry, I have not heard a peep of anything going wrong on the F150's.....Eco-boost. Now.....inquiring minds want to know if you need a X plan PIN?
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      05-15-2012 03:03 PM #17
      Quote Originally Posted by 16v_43v3r View Post
      Reading fail on everyone's part. He was asking about mileage on the trucks and reliability. Not MPGs
      Fuelly. Thats what its for.

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      05-15-2012 03:14 PM #18
      Quote Originally Posted by 16v_43v3r View Post
      Reading fail on everyone's part. He was asking about mileage on the trucks and reliability. Not MPGs
      Quote Originally Posted by barry2952 View Post
      Straight from the horse's mouth.
      Both of these seem to back up what I assumed. And in this case no news = good news.

      At this point the reliability thing seems to be a non-issue so people automatically leap to the mileage benefits. I said it before but it's pretty clear with the real world results you can drive the truck gingerly and get car like mileage or drive it like you stole it and get great performance. You can't get both, but the nice thing about this truck is that it lets you choose how to play, you can't say that about the V8's.
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      05-15-2012 03:18 PM #19
      Quote Originally Posted by barry2952 View Post
      Barry, I have not heard a peep of anything going wrong on the F150's.....Eco-boost. Now.....inquiring minds want to know if you need a X plan PIN?
      They've got you targeted now!
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      05-15-2012 03:19 PM #20
      Quote Originally Posted by rs4-380 View Post
      Both of these seem to back up what I assumed. And in this case no news = good news.

      At this point the reliability thing seems to be a non-issue so people automatically leap to the mileage benefits. I said it before but it's pretty clear with the real world results you can drive the truck gingerly and get car like mileage or drive it like you stole it and get great performance. You can't get both, but the nice thing about this truck is that it lets you choose how to play, you can't say that about the V8's.
      No, you can't. If I beat the hell out of my truck (unloaded), I get 12. If I drive ms. daisy, 14's the topps...and even that's about to go lower since hot and humid summer is on her way.

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      05-15-2012 03:24 PM #21
      My friend bought one when it first came out and he has had no problems and he loves it. He uses it as a work truck and it takes what ever is throw at it with no problems. Has anyone see any aftermarket goodies for eco boost?
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      05-15-2012 03:33 PM #22
      Quote Originally Posted by rs4-380 View Post
      They've got you targeted now!
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    23. 05-15-2012 03:46 PM #23
      I think it's way too early to talk about reliability on this powertrain. I'd say to really talk about that we need to wait at least 5 years and see how Ecoboost trucks with 100K+ miles on them are still holding up.

      With that said i've heard nothing but praise for this engine, especially the low end torque which seems to be really good for towing. This leads me to ask, if so many people are looking for this type of power it would seem that a Turbo Diesel 6 cylinder would be even better than an ecoboost. It won't have the hp number of an Ecoboost, but it'll be even better in areas where the Ecoboost is deemed most desirable, low end torque and mpg.

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      05-15-2012 04:11 PM #24
      Quote Originally Posted by koko12 View Post
      I think it's way too early to talk about reliability on this powertrain. I'd say to really talk about that we need to wait at least 5 years and see how Ecoboost trucks with 100K+ miles on them are still holding up.
      Will anyone really care in 5 years? (at least in terms of new car sales). I think a better example is high mileage vehicles that are 2-3 years old. With the market these are targeting I guarantee there are penny of examples of 50k miles.

      Even the "bullet proof" engines have common problems that far down the road.
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      05-15-2012 04:25 PM #25
      Quote Originally Posted by Egz View Post
      I'm not a truck guy, so what would a truck with an equivilant V8 get when towing 7,000 pounds? (I have no clue what the norm is)
      A diesel would get 15+.

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      05-15-2012 05:27 PM #26
      We had one come in with a bad turbocharger and one with a crack in the valvecover.......not much else.

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      05-15-2012 05:29 PM #27
      That's pretty incredible, no?
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    29. 05-15-2012 06:37 PM #29
      I still can't believe ignorant buyers have swallowed the marketing hype of 'Ecoboost'.

      It's just a new name for an old technology: a turbocharger


      From a performance standpoint, the Dodge turbocharged 6 cylinder basically sodomizes the Ford's turbocharged 6 cylinder. Without using any lube.

      Heck.

      At 800ftlbs of torque versus 302, it's more like being sodomized by an inverted iron maiden.
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      05-15-2012 07:05 PM #30
      Quote Originally Posted by JLJetta View Post
      I still can't believe ignorant buyers have swallowed the marketing hype of 'Ecoboost'.

      It's just a new name for an old technology: a turbocharger
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      So car companies aren't allowed to brand their technologies anymore? No FSI, no Hybrid Synergy Drive, no Bluemotion, no VTEC, no Duramax....?

      C'mon. Get real. It's just a friggin' trademark. Ford advertises Ecoboost as a way to boost power without sacrificing fuel economy. VW uses FSI the same way, and they didn't invent the turbo/direct injection combo either. Move on.

      From a performance standpoint, the Dodge turbocharged 6 cylinder basically sodomizes the Ford's turbocharged 6 cylinder. Without using any lube.

      Heck.

      At 800ftlbs of torque versus 302, it's more like being sodomized by an inverted iron maiden
      Gratuitously graphic imagery notwithstanding, the Dodge turbodiesel is only available in HD configuration and is quite expensive - so it represents a substantial upcharge compared to a gasser, 1500-class Ram. I don't really see how the comparison makes much sense; I mean, yeah, the Cummins is wicked powerful, but it's also not available in a 3/4 ton pickup.

      Also, 302 isn't the correct torque figure. It's 350 (fix0rd - 420), and more importantly the torque curve is shaped like a dinner table. There's nothing else in a 3/4 ton pickup that comes close to its low-end torque until you start talking about 6+ liter V8s...which are vastly thirstier.
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    31. 05-15-2012 07:12 PM #31
      Quote Originally Posted by rs4-380 View Post
      Will anyone really care in 5 years? (at least in terms of new car sales). I think a better example is high mileage vehicles that are 2-3 years old. With the market these are targeting I guarantee there are penny of examples of 50k miles.

      Even the "bullet proof" engines have common problems that far down the road.


      I completely disagree. In today's day and age even the worst of engines are capable of getting to 100K trouble free miles. Most vehicles today don't even require a tune up before then. 100K trouble free miles for a powertrain that's supposed to be a work horse should be a walk in the park.

      Also if an engine has problems 5 years down the road it is far from "bullet proof"

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      05-15-2012 08:21 PM #32
      My parent's best friends bought one 5 months ago or so and they rave about it. They aren't car folks, and I've never seen them rave about anything before. It is weird hearing them drive by as they accelerate. The turbo whine is quite obvious

      And Turbio, it's 420 ft/lbs, not 350.

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      05-15-2012 08:28 PM #33
      Quote Originally Posted by Toaster29 View Post
      My parent's best friends bought one 5 months ago or so and they rave about it. They aren't car folks, and I've never seen them rave about anything before. It is weird hearing them drive by as they accelerate. The turbo whine is quite obvious

      And Turbio, it's 420 ft/lbs, not 350.
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      05-15-2012 08:34 PM #34
      Quote Originally Posted by Toaster29 View Post
      . The turbo whine is quite obvious
      I found it pretty much unnoticeable from the inside-
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      05-15-2012 08:35 PM #35
      Quote Originally Posted by JLJetta View Post
      I still can't believe ignorant buyers have swallowed the marketing hype of 'Ecoboost'.

      It's just a new name for an old technology: a turbocharger


      From a performance standpoint, the Dodge turbocharged 6 cylinder basically sodomizes the Ford's turbocharged 6 cylinder. Without using any lube.

      Heck.

      At 800ftlbs of torque versus 302, it's more like being sodomized by an inverted iron maiden.
      Are you really comparing diesel and gas trucks and pretending that they're equivalent?

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