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    Thread: What's the word on the Ecoboost f150's now that they have seen some mileage

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      05-16-2012 09:28 AM #51
      Quote Originally Posted by dmorrow View Post
      I doubt there will be problems but I don't know of any other gas/turbo application in a full size truck (ever).
      A turbo's a turbo. There's no reason why a turbo's ability to deal with being on boost for extended with a gasser should be any different than with an HD turbodiesel - the technology is in no way fundamentally different. If there's an issue, it's with the specific model of turbo Ford used, not with the fundamental turbo gasser setup.
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    2. 05-16-2012 09:29 AM #52
      Quote Originally Posted by 200HP4dr View Post
      My 99 Silverado 5.3 did about 9 mpg towing and it really struggled with a huge load on it. That being said, my dad's 06 Hemi ram (quadcab 4x4) got 9 mpg towing the same load, but it seemed effortless. Unloaded, my 99 Silverado got 15, mostly highway. Dad's Ram got 13-14 with the same use.

      It will be interesting to see how manufacturers deal with this. The Eco boost seems to be getting about 1 mpg better all the way around, but offering better low end torque, improving the "feel" of the truck. Will we see increases in mpg in trucks without going to hybrids? I mean, the weight thing is going to be difficult to get over.

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      Ecoboost is awesome but I am very disappointed the half ton diesels never made it to market.

      I think where the hybrid could help would be assisting to boost engine torque at lower rpm, right where the electric motor is cranking it out and a smaller gas motor is struggling. So a light hybrid type of deal.

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      05-16-2012 09:42 AM #53
      I bought a 2012 FX4 EcoBoost in Jan.
      Most issues I read on the Ecoboost forums are studder issue and gas mileage complaints.
      My truck has done studder thing a couple times with me not sure what that is but with 2 turbos and all those electronics I am not surprised.
      My gas mileage is not as good as advertised but overall the truck is growing on me.
      Tons of room, good power very quiet interior.
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      05-16-2012 09:58 AM #54
      Quote Originally Posted by keithR32 View Post
      I bought a 2012 FX4 EcoBoost in Jan.
      Most issues I read on the Ecoboost forums are studder issue and gas mileage complaints.
      My truck has done studder thing a couple times with me not sure what that is but with 2 turbos and all those electronics I am not surprised.
      My gas mileage is not as good as advertised but overall the truck is growing on me.
      Tons of room, good power very quiet interior.
      Nice looking truck, consider getting the rear wheelwell's sprayed with bedliner, it looks great on light colored trucks.

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      05-16-2012 10:05 AM #55
      Great idea and Looks good

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      05-16-2012 10:14 AM #56
      Quote Originally Posted by Turbio! View Post
      A turbo's a turbo. There's no reason why a turbo's ability to deal with being on boost for extended with a gasser should be any different than with an HD turbodiesel - the technology is in no way fundamentally different. If there's an issue, it's with the specific model of turbo Ford used, not with the fundamental turbo gasser setup.
      With anything new (turbo V-6 gas in truck application), I am skeptical of it working until it is proven, especially where someone will put high miles on the engine towing a heavy load. Ford puts a warranty up to some number of miles as this is the risk they are willing to take. I would prefer to have others prove the technology. If developing the engine was easy and could be done quickly, other manufacturers would have them out right now based on Ford's success. It's also not as simple as putting a turbo on a normal V-6 so I there is more to consider than just the turbo.

      Again, I don't know if it will be a good design long term, I am not saying it won't be, and have no reason to think it won't.

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      05-16-2012 10:24 AM #57
      Quote Originally Posted by JLJetta View Post
      I still can't believe ignorant buyers have swallowed the marketing hype of 'Ecoboost'.

      It's just a new name for an old technology: a turbocharger
      Right. Nobody else would do that, would they?

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      05-16-2012 10:35 AM #58
      Quote Originally Posted by keithR32 View Post
      Great idea and Looks good
      And it's nearly indestructible to boot!
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      05-16-2012 12:57 PM #59
      Quote Originally Posted by Air and water do mix View Post
      And it's nearly indestructible to boot!

      it still looks as good with a canadian winter worth of wear - pretty much like new actually.
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      05-16-2012 10:36 PM #60
      I called and got it priced at 200 to do both wells. hmm sounds a little steep? Rugged liners are 80 for both

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      05-17-2012 12:04 AM #61
      Quote Originally Posted by al@absolute View Post
      i call BS on that, i'm an avid RV forum goer and most 7.3ps owners talk about getting 10-12 Towing 7000-8000lbs RV's.Heck, most said they only get around 15mpg while unloaded.
      How would you like me to prove it?

      It's a '99 F250, 7.3L PS,Ext Cab 4x2, Ext Cab, Automatic, and totally stock other than a K&N panel filter, a fresh fuel filter, and recent oil change.

      This week, (Mon-Weds) I drove 364 miles, on 21 gallons, hand calculated, and the same trip/fuel pump. cruising 70+ MPH. That's over 17 MPG's. I do run a diesel fuel additive, called Diesel Kleen.
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      05-17-2012 12:54 AM #63
      Quote Originally Posted by al@absolute View Post
      i call BS on that, i'm an avid RV forum goer and most 7.3ps owners talk about getting 10-12 Towing 7000-8000lbs RV's.Heck, most said they only get around 15mpg while unloaded.
      Quote Originally Posted by MRVW00 View Post
      How would you like me to prove it?

      It's a '99 F250, 7.3L PS,Ext Cab 4x2, Ext Cab, Automatic, and totally stock other than a K&N panel filter, a fresh fuel filter, and recent oil change.

      This week, (Mon-Weds) I drove 364 miles, on 21 gallons, hand calculated, and the same trip/fuel pump. cruising 70+ MPH. That's over 17 MPG's. I do run a diesel fuel additive, called Diesel Kleen.
      My dad has had a '97 F250, 7.3 PS, 4 door 2wd, since new, and for about the first 225,000 miles, unloaded it would run 19mpg all day long at 70mph. Loaded it would run 14-16mpg. The last 50,000 miles or so it's been down 2-3mpg, so I'm sure the figures quoted on the RV forum are accurate for trucks that are getting old and have lots of towing miles. The last 7.3s were made in 2003, so they're at least 9 years old now.

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      05-17-2012 01:34 AM #64
      Correct me if I'm wrong I don't remember, are these twin turbo charged?
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      05-17-2012 07:06 AM #65
      Quote Originally Posted by personman View Post
      My dad has had a '97 F250, 7.3 PS, 4 door 2wd, since new, and for about the first 225,000 miles, unloaded it would run 19mpg all day long at 70mph. Loaded it would run 14-16mpg. The last 50,000 miles or so it's been down 2-3mpg, so I'm sure the figures quoted on the RV forum are accurate for trucks that are getting old and have lots of towing miles. The last 7.3s were made in 2003, so they're at least 9 years old now.

      that's probably the case then, i'm going from word of mouth on 3 different sites plus the few that are owned by local buddies.
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      05-17-2012 07:07 AM #66
      Quote Originally Posted by keithR32 View Post
      I called and got it priced at 200 to do both wells. hmm sounds a little steep? Rugged liners are 80 for both

      that's steep, i got my bed and wheelwell's done by the local line-X shop for 650.00$ + tax
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      05-17-2012 07:17 AM #67
      Quote Originally Posted by IridiumB6 View Post
      Correct me if I'm wrong I don't remember, are these twin turbo charged?
      Not sure if serious but the answer is yes.

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      05-17-2012 08:51 AM #68
      Quote Originally Posted by al@absolute View Post
      that's probably the case then, i'm going from word of mouth on 3 different sites plus the few that are owned by local buddies.
      So there smarty pants! TOLD YOU!

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      05-17-2012 08:56 AM #69
      Quote Originally Posted by MRVW00 View Post
      So there smarty pants! TOLD YOU!



      for the record, i'd still rock a diesel even if it only got 15mpg.
      I didn't buy the ecoboost for the mpgs, i got it for balls out low end torque that i could afford.
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      05-17-2012 09:41 AM #70
      Quote Originally Posted by IridiumB6 View Post
      Correct me if I'm wrong I don't remember, are these twin turbo charged?
      Yup, they have two water cooled Borg-Warners.

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      05-17-2012 09:45 AM #71
      Quote Originally Posted by Air and water do mix View Post
      Right. Nobody else would do that, would they?



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      05-17-2012 04:31 PM #72
      Quote Originally Posted by JLJetta View Post
      I still can't believe ignorant buyers have swallowed the marketing hype of 'Ecoboost'.

      It's just a new name for an old technology: a turbocharger


      From a performance standpoint, the Dodge turbocharged 6 cylinder basically sodomizes the Ford's turbocharged 6 cylinder. Without using any lube.

      Heck.

      At 800ftlbs of torque versus 302, it's more like being sodomized by an inverted iron maiden.
      This is a pointless comparison between two totally different classes of truck. Why would you even compare the two?

      Yes, EcoBoost is marketing terminology. Congrats on deducing that. But it also represents the first time a mainstream manufacturer has put a twin turbo, direct injection V6 into a full size pickup that provides V8+ performance with V6-like MPG. For a hell of a lot less $ than an HD Dodge with the $$$$$$$$ Cummins option.

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      05-17-2012 04:42 PM #73
      Quote Originally Posted by DIAF View Post
      Are you really comparing diesel and gas trucks and pretending that they're equivalent?
      Not to mention that the dodge is 6.7L...

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      05-17-2012 04:53 PM #74
      I'm not a truck guy at all but I think the ecoboost engine is pretty neat. Haven't heard much from them and I do work on a ford pickup truck enthusiast site.

      These vids are really cool too.



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      Quote Originally Posted by slippinclutch View Post
      Not to mention that the dodge is 6.7L...
      And the connecting rods are as big as your forearm, assuming you're a big guy. One is related to the other not at all.
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