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    Thread: Chevy Sonic 1.4L Turbo - Impressions?

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      05-16-2012 09:18 PM #51
      Quote Originally Posted by djsheijkdfj View Post
      Rear drums on a new car are always deal breakers for me too just on aesthetics alone.

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      05-16-2012 10:11 PM #52
      I took one on an extend and semi-serious test drive this past winter. I drove a 1.4 Turbo Hatch manual (but not an LTZ) and it was a seriously fun car. It handled great, brakes were incredible and it had plenty of boost, plenty or torque and the interior though cheap-ish looking was actually kind of impressive and comfortable. I actually really liked the Motorcycle inspired gauges too.

      The doors close with a bit of a tinny sound but over-all the car is very nice and I was very impressed by fit, finish and ride/handling. So impressed that it made my short list of new car possibilities up there with a Miata and MINI....I priced one out with Turbo and Manual for around $17850 I think....and I get a GM Discount if I so choose. It would be a great MINI S alternative for $5k to $10k cheaper....

      I was pretty close to considering it but in the end, I took out a tape measure, extended it to 75 inches (average life expectancy of an American Male) and put my finger on my age and surveyed the remaining tape measure and decided to get the MINI S for $10k more.

      I don't regret my purchase, but I would gladly have a Sonic Hatch Turbo in my stable if I had room for it.
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      05-17-2012 12:30 PM #53
      For you guys complaining about the drums...the car stops fine, the brakes feel great. Don't drums last longer anyways? The backseat is pretty tight and there's not much storage space, there is a ton of headroom though. The gauges are nice and clear, I prefer digital speedometers but then again I'm younger. I think cars in this class are usually pretty boring and I'm glad Chevy threw in some different stuff. And the 6th gear is really high but I'm glad it's there so I can cruise at a lower rpm. I don't mind shifting down to 5th or even 4th if I have to pass a car or there is a hill. Ideally you could stay in 5th gear on the highway if you wanted.

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      05-17-2012 12:41 PM #54
      Quote Originally Posted by Voodoo.T View Post
      VW doesn't make anything in this price range. The only thing they make I'd drive would be a GTI or Golf TDI, both of which break mid-20's on price. And at that price, I'd rather have a Camaro. That's just me.
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      05-17-2012 01:03 PM #55
      Quote Originally Posted by Voodoo.T View Post
      Technically it is the second generation Aveo, not a completely new car.
      What makes you say that?

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      05-17-2012 06:01 PM #56
      Quote Originally Posted by uncleho View Post
      What makes you say that?
      It is still technically called the Aveo in other markets...

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      05-17-2012 06:11 PM #57
      Quote Originally Posted by Ubryaj View Post
      It is still technically called the Aveo in other markets...
      So enlighten us, just what does this Aveo/Somic share with the old model

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      05-17-2012 06:19 PM #58
      I run into this CAr magazine review on the 1.2L version. Very positive i must say:

      http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/Drives/...12-CAR-review/

      Chevrolet Aveo 1.2 (2012) CAR review
      By Anthony ffrench-Constant

      First Drives

      09 May 2012 10:00


      Bit of a surprise, Chevrolet's new Aveo supermini; pretty good looking inside and out, and, on an all-new platform, a rather tidy performer to boot.

      I must confess to having quickly given up the frantic, five-speed stick stirrings necessary to wring the neck of the 1.2-litre petrol engined version, and settled for amiable bumbling instead.

      Not that the Aveo won’t handle; it’s actually remarkably tidy through the twisty stuff, just rather hard work trying to elicit enough power to tax the gently adept chassis.

      What's the Chevrolet Aveo like to bumble around in?
      Thanks to a comfy seat and a surprisingly refined, supple ride, it does the bumbling thing rather well. My only criticism might be aimed at the slightly unseemly levels of road noise that creep aboard, marring otherwise encouragingly smooth progress.

      The 1.3-litre diesel version is much ballsier, displaying admirable vim, but I suspect the front struts have been surreptitiously beefed to cater for an increase in engine weight, so the ride quality isn’t quite up there with that of the petrol.

      And inside the Chevy Aveo supermini?
      I’ve read much about the unremittingly harsh nature of the cabin finishes, but at least Chevrolet hasn’t wasted money on expensive, soft-touch trim in areas you’ll never fondle.

      Almost everything I came into contact with on a regular basis gave no cause for complaint, and if it helps keep the price of the car down in an era when both the price (and size for that matter) of superminis is getting somewhat out of hand, then that’s fine by me.

      Besides, if Chevrolet were to up their game in the interior trim stakes, I’d rather, in the Aveo’s case, it was in the interests of noise suppression.

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      05-17-2012 07:32 PM #59
      Quote Originally Posted by Minority5 View Post
      So enlighten us, just what does this Aveo/Somic share with the old model
      Probably nothing. Totally new model.

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      05-17-2012 07:54 PM #60
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      05-17-2012 08:48 PM #63
      Quote Originally Posted by Rob. View Post
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      05-18-2012 06:44 AM #65
      Quote Originally Posted by Ubryaj View Post
      It is still technically called the Aveo in other markets...
      Name. Sure. But I think he was inferring that the Sonic was some mild, mechanical refresh of the older Daewoo... and it is not.

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      05-18-2012 08:10 AM #66
      Quote Originally Posted by uncleho View Post
      Name. Sure. But I think he was inferring that the Sonic was some mild, mechanical refresh of the older Daewoo... and it is not.
      exactly. that would be the Chevy Spark, not the Sonic =)

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      05-18-2012 09:11 AM #67
      Quote Originally Posted by adrew View Post
      My 2003 Civic Si (2800 lbs) had 160 horsepower and 132 lb-ft (all the way across the whole rev range) and everyone here said it was a slow, fat pig. So I am always a bit surprised when people say that the Sonic should be spunky.

      /slight sarcasm
      I think a big difference here is the sonic can easily get 170hp and decent torque just through a flash. With some other changes, the car can probably be made pretty quick.

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      05-18-2012 09:56 AM #68
      Quote Originally Posted by Minority5 View Post
      So enlighten us, just what does this Aveo/Somic share with the old model
      virtually nothing was retained. the body panels are totally different, the interior, materials. the only thing that remains remotely close is the way the car is set-up as a FWD econobox...its a surprisingly good little car to drive. torquey, forgiving, and fun.
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      05-18-2012 10:24 AM #69
      Quote Originally Posted by Non_Affiliated View Post

      Love the armchair quarter back critics.
      New here? That's TCL in a nutshell. 95% of those providing their perspective (positive or negative) probably haven't even seen the car in person, let alone driven it.

    20. 05-18-2012 11:44 AM #70
      Quote Originally Posted by adrew View Post
      My 2003 Civic Si (2800 lbs) had 160 horsepower and 132 lb-ft (all the way across the whole rev range) and everyone here said it was a slow, fat pig. So I am always a bit surprised when people say that the Sonic should be spunky.

      /slight sarcasm
      That power was available at stratospheric RPMs. Not so with the 1.4T, more power at lower RPMs gets a from me.
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      05-18-2012 11:53 AM #71
      Quote Originally Posted by NightTrain EX View Post
      That power was available at stratospheric RPMs. Not so with the 1.4T, more power at lower RPMs gets a from me.
      Not really, it had the VTEC-Lite™ K20A3 which redlined at 6800 (but pulled smoothly into the 7100 fuel cut). Unlike peaky earlier Hondas it is very flexible and pulls smoothly from 1500 RPM. The torque curve is flat from 2000-7000 RPM. Dyno plots: http://www.vtec.net/forums/one-messa...sage_id=174863
      Improving the signal-to-noise ratio

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      05-18-2012 04:02 PM #72
      Quote Originally Posted by adrew View Post
      Not really, it had the VTEC-Lite™ K20A3 which redlined at 6800 (but pulled smoothly into the 7100 fuel cut). Unlike peaky earlier Hondas it is very flexible and pulls smoothly from 1500 RPM. The torque curve is flat from 2000-7000 RPM. Dyno plots: http://www.vtec.net/forums/one-messa...sage_id=174863
      Those torque numbers are pathetic
      If your car feels like it's on rails, then you're going too slow.

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      05-18-2012 04:05 PM #73
      Quote Originally Posted by firstorbit84 View Post
      Those torque numbers are pathetic
      Just as pathetic as a stock 1.4T:
      Improving the signal-to-noise ratio

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      Quote Originally Posted by caj1 View Post
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      05-27-2012 09:13 PM #75
      I test drove a Sonic today, it was the 1.8, they didn't have any 1.4t Sonics in stock. That engine is a rough POS. Above 4000rpm, all you can hear is the engine screaming bloody murder, and not in a good way. All the other small cars I've looked at have decent sound at high RPM. Fiesta, Mini Cooper, Honda Fit, Fiat 500. The Sonic was just terrible.

      If the 1.4t is not significantly more refined than the 1.8, there is no way in hell am I considering one. Also, clueless dealers much, Chevy? "Oh the 1.4 is going to cost about 2 grand more than the 1.8." It's $700, you nimrod.

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