So i got some money.

[nodashi]

1160 to be exact.
I was think of a unitronic tune stage 1 and some coilovers. Whats ur idea?
btw i have a 06 that bone stock

[Wolfpack Noob]

Get it flashed, Unitronic...

[nodashi]

i want to get the tune. But i dont know if ill have enough for coilovers. :/ maybe ill wait for a sale

[SickTRed08FSI]

Save a couple hundred more and wait for sale. Then youll be able to get tune and nice new set of coilovers. Show season normally means good deals on parts. And if you sign up before show for tune, you can get $100 off.

[coderedcomputing]

Is low the end goal?

Or more fast?

Or both?

I'm running stock wheels (MCs), and stock springs (right now, got some cheap DG springs in the closet), and Unitronic 1+ ($700 OTD) AWE DV ($129 w/free shipping) and used BSH Stage 2 ($125 ebay steal)... My idea of low is only the 30mm drop or so.

Just so you have an idea of what you can spend in there... If you get coils, get goods ones, don't skimp, you may regret it.

[nodashi]

i just might get some nice coilovers because for some reason my car scrapes whenever there is a speed bump and my car is stock not lowered. maybe something is sagging :/

[Tutti57]

You almost have enough for the tune and a cup kit. Are you set on coil overs?

[Track5tar]

i just might get some nice coilovers because for some reason my car scrapes whenever there is a speed bump and my car is stock not lowered. maybe something is sagging :/

I payed $1440 for my kw v2's those are some nice coils. you should save a few more hundred to get them

[nodashi]

Whats the difference between a cupkit and coilovers?

[Bill6211789]

Whats the difference between a cupkit and coilovers?

a cup kit is springs and shocks, and you really would only have enough for a cup kit (~1000$ not installed)

the cheapest coilovers id run would be ST's there made by KW and are identical to the KW V1's, only difference is the ST's are not stainless steel they are galvanized

Like SickRed said since show season is here a lot of the vendors give deals on parts when you buy at a show, UNI will do tune installs for 50-100$ off and no install charge, and same goes for the suspension companies

[nodashi]

i guess i could keep the money and save up until a sale comes along. Its just that there is no shows where i live.

[Track5tar]

Whats the difference between a cupkit and coilovers?

Coilovers are adjustable and the better ones can adjust dampening and rebound.

[nodashi]

so if i was to buy suspention for 1000-ish $ which would be better at that price? Coilovers right?

[Bill6211789]

depends on what you're looking for, a cup kit is set it and forget it. with coilovers you have adjust ability but everything u adjust your coilovers you're suppose to get corner balanced to have ur car sit/handle right

and what s better then what depends on what you're looking at

Coilovers:
Raceland: lowest quality (400$)
ST's: mid: 800$
KW's: top and up V1 (1400$), V2 (1850$), V3(2300$)
....and more out there

Springs/shocks:
all springs are similar priced (200$-300$)
Shocks
Koni adj: $650 (Better then ST's BC Stainless)
Koni FSD: $700 (Better then ST's BC Stainless and auto adjust dampening based how ur driving)
Koni SRT: ~$400 (these with springs would IMO be better then Racelands but not as good as ST's)
Bilstein: $700-$800 (Better then ST's BC Stainless)

[nodashi]

since there isnt any coilovers under 1000 what i can adjust rebound which is what i kind of wanted. Should i just get a nice pair of Bilstein?

[Bill6211789]

since there isnt any coilovers under 1000 what i can adjust rebound which is what i kind of wanted. Should i just get a nice pair of Bilstein?

Koni adjustable
http://www.namotorsports.net/Koni/Su...B6PassatSports(you need to remove the rear shocks to adjust them)

Or the FSDs (these will auto adjust depending on how ur driving they get stiffer when u get more aggressive)
http://www.namotorsports.net/Koni/Su...er=KO2100.4026

BTW Koni is having an AWESOME sale right now!!!

[nodashi]

what about springs? could i just use my old ones?

[Bill6211789]

what about springs? could i just use my old ones?

if you want to be lower, no if your happy with where youre at you can run stock springs (i wouldnt do tht but ur car)

here is a FSD cup kit: (~1 in drop)
http://www.namotorsports.net/Koni/Su...er=KO2150.4026


or just pick any set of springs you want:
http://www.namotorsports.net/Makemod...tegory=Springs

Im running Neuspeed race springs in the front and sport springs in the rear for a more even drop (Neuspeed split a kit for me)

[nodashi]

neat thanks for the help. And what ur verdict on your suspension setup?

[Bill6211789]

neat thanks for the help. And what ur verdict on your suspension setup?

its great, stiffer then stock obviously. corners really good highway is smooth. Im very happy with it

[AE2058]

Look into K-sport coilover for about 1k

Two way height adjustment via spring and shock body.

I run them on both my 03 GTI and 08 Passat.





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[sk80soarus]

Yeah if you're looking for a conservative drop, I highly recommend driver gear springs. They only lower an inch but it is noticeable.

[Track5tar]

To do it right and be track ready, you should corner balance. Probably 80% of people who install coilovers dont corner balance. With the correct measurements you're close enough on weight

[low_passat]

To do it right and be track ready, you should corner balance. Probably 99% of VW owners who install coilovers dont corner balance. With the correct measurements you're close enough on weight

FIFY

[Bill6211789]

To do it right and be track ready, you should corner balance. Probably 80% of people who install coilovers dont corner balance. With the correct measurements you're close enough on weight

FIFY

the way i look at it..... is your half assing the job. would u add a 3in DP with out a tune? no bc ur not getting the optimal performance


this is the same concept but with the main part of ur cars handling, why cheap out when you just put an expensive coilover system on your car??? it just doesn't make sense to me.

Do it once and do it right.


just bc everything is measured and FTG is identical you could still be wayyyy off on ur set up

[Track5tar]

the way i look at it..... is your half assing the job. would u add a 3in DP with out a tune? no bc ur not getting the optimal performance


this is the same concept but with the main part of ur cars handling, why cheap out when you just put an expensive coilover system on your car??? it just doesn't make sense to me.

Do it once and do it right.


just bc everything is measured and FTG is identical you could still be wayyyy off on ur set up

Dude it's not just that. Other things throw off your weight too. Take your setup for example, the suspension was not designed with your sub and amp in mind. You're screwing your performance too since your suspension doesn't account for that extra weight. So in a sense, your suspension isn't setup correctly. Nothing is gonna be 100% on any setup.

The difference is that I can counter whatever weight I put in my car. If I wanna put a fat chick then I adjust for that. If I want to drive alone then I can adjust for that. I'm gonna be doing some adjusting so I can fit you, Cady, and all of our stuff for wuste. Lol

[coderedcomputing]

i just might get some nice coilovers because for some reason my car scrapes whenever there is a speed bump and my car is stock not lowered. maybe something is sagging :/

What T was just posting... listen to that.

I have a buddy here in the office who DAILY schools me on suspension, BUT it is all centered on his WRX that he has perfectly balanced for his autocross days. When I mean balanced, he has it setup for the weight of the amount of gas depending on which event he is going to. It's ridiculous.

I'm more interested in what nodashi is talking about in the quote above. Are you speeding over these speed bumps or... is there something hitting at stock height??

I would get that looked into before going with any suspension mods... next thing you know, you slap on some coils, get a nice drop and then you might end up scraping on a farting frog in the road.

From my experience with the tune... you will probably want to improve the stock suspension. If I'm rolling at 45+ and punch it, once that turbo kicks in, I can feel the car's weight get thrown back, hard... it's not so much that the car loses control, but it is enough to know that a better setup would REALLY help the acceleration.

[Bill6211789]

Dude it's not just that. Other things throw off your weight too. Take your setup for example, the suspension was not designed with your sub and amp in mind. You're screwing your performance too since your suspension doesn't account for that extra weight. So in a sense, your suspension isn't setup correctly. Nothing is gonna be 100% on any setup.

The difference is that I can counter whatever weight I put in my car. If I wanna put a fat chick then I adjust for that. If I want to drive alone then I can adjust for that. I'm gonna be doing some adjusting so I can fit you, Cady, and all of our stuff for wuste. Lol

but you have the ability to make it perfect where i dont, so why not do it? adding crazy amounts of people of course throw it off but how often do you have all tht extra weight and when you do have that many people are you gunna worry about performance

And my car can be balanced on a pyramid Beeeoch!!! lol