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    Thread: T3 rear springs on a T4?

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      05-15-2012 08:06 PM #1
      Hey all, still a T4 noob, and looking into how to lower mine a bit.
      Was talking to my mechanic in Ghana today and he said to just throw some T3 springs on.
      Anyone done this or have any thoughts?? (I tried the search and didn't come up with anything)
      Thanks for any advice!

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      05-18-2012 12:42 PM #2
      Nobody...?

    3. 05-18-2012 02:47 PM #3
      I've never heard of anyone doing this particular swap so you might be on your own/the first.

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      05-18-2012 02:59 PM #4
      a quick Google search of pictures & to me the T3 springs appear longer than t4 springs so I think you'd be going backwards. But they both have small coils at top & bottom & since most shocks are roughly the same diameter I don't see why they couldn't be swapped between the models
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      05-18-2012 03:01 PM #5
      I can say with about 99.9% certainty that nobody has tried this for one simple reason: Why would they? There are other methods to lower these vans (at a cost obviously). Given that the T3's and T4's have nothing in common, you can try it - you might get lucky. No harm, no foul right? (assuming they fit)

      Weirder things have happened. In my brainless youth, I wanted to lift my Cutlass 442 in the rear without the risk of blowing out air shocks. A friend happened to have Olds station wagon springs (similar coils) and - dumb luck - it put the 442 at the EXACT height I wanted. My friends thought I was a genius ...when in fact I had no idea what I was doing and it just happened to work out. Of course, I never told them the real story....

      Another thought: get another set of T4 springs and cut them or have them customized.
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      05-18-2012 03:23 PM #6
      look for these http://store.allsprings.com/vw-eurov...-03-p1093.aspx



      I also as a kid modified my rabbits springs by cutting, clamping, heating, etc. I would not recommend it on the T4. It is a heavy vehicle and you could be risking the safety of it, especially if you carry around passengers. Good luck.

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      05-19-2012 11:22 PM #7
      Like I said, my mechanic in Ghana has done it and said it works fine.
      Said they were slightly shorter which is odd if you guys have google image searched and said they look longer.

      I was hoping for some comments from this side of the pond. Appears to be rather unknown mod.

      As for the H&R's and all, I'd at least like to look into this option as dropping only $20 at my local salvage yard for T3 springs is A LOT cheaper.

      He actually had a factory lowered T4 "Generation" model I was hoping to get the springs off of, seeing as the road to his house is a 4x4 trail... and he wanted to put stock springs on and raise it!

      Thanks for the comments.

    8. 05-20-2012 12:15 PM #8
      Quote Originally Posted by Spectaculiciousnes View Post
      a quick Google search of pictures & to me the T3 springs appear longer than t4 springs so I think you'd be going backwards. But they both have small coils at top & bottom & since most shocks are roughly the same diameter I don't see why they couldn't be swapped between the models
      Depends on how much they are designed to compress under load. IIRC either the H&Rs or the VMaxx ones (I forget which) looked taller out of the car but once installed they were shorter when it was all said and done.

    9. 05-20-2012 12:17 PM #9
      Quote Originally Posted by Kwabena View Post
      He actually had a factory lowered T4 "Generation" model I was hoping to get the springs off of, seeing as the road to his house is a 4x4 trail... and he wanted to put stock springs on and raise it!
      I am guessing those would be the same as the rear springs on our 2001-2003-T4s which were lower than the 1993-2000 models. They're still a smidge higher than the H&Rs and the like, but if you found some 2001-2003 rear springs and used those, coupled with some spring buffer pad swaps (various years and setups have different pad thicknesses), you could get acceptably low that way just using stock mix-and-match VW parts.

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      05-21-2012 01:28 PM #10
      Quote Originally Posted by VW_Enthu1 View Post

      Another thought: get another set of T4 springs and cut them or have them customized.
      You can't cut springs that have a small coil on BOTH ends. The small coil holds it in place & it would slop around without one of them. The only option on small coil springs is to heat them until a coil collapses. I would NOT recommend this on a 4,000 lb van. It's a lot different than doing it on a 2,000 lb Rabbit
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      05-23-2012 09:51 AM #11
      Talked with my mechanic in Ghana a couple days ago and he was saying the "Generation" springs don't lower the van any.
      Odd, since his van was lower...

      Maybe if I stumble on a T3 in a salvage yard I'll snag the springs and give it a try!

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      05-24-2012 12:46 PM #12
      there is something you can do to get a little drop. Most people in here that have put aftermarket springs on have removed one of the hard rubber spring pads. There is one on top & one on bottom. One is thicker than the other. I believe I took the one from the bottom (which I think is the thinner of the 2) & moved it to the top & left the bottom without a pad. This will get you about 3/4" lower. Not much but an easy way to get some drop
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      05-25-2012 08:27 PM #13
      Hit a yard in Texas today, scored a G60 valve cover, supercharger bracket, upper radiator hose, AND... some rear springs off a 90 Vanagon!
      All for $30!
      So looks like I'll be trying this mod and will report back on how it works.
      Give me a few weeks!

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      05-27-2012 11:59 PM #14
      These guys have Vanagon springs in three different sizes, measured mine and they're the shortest ones!
      Looking forward to trying this soon.
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      06-24-2013 02:26 PM #15
      Should have posted this ages ago just in case someone uses the "search" button...

      So I parted out another 93 Eurovan last summer and put the rear springs from it next to the 90 Vanagon T3 rear spring. They were identical!
      Height, coil spacing and spring diameter. Honestly, if I had not kept track of them I wouldn't know which is which...
      After that, I didn't even bother trying this mod.

      Just for future fyi


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