I really don't get why everyone is flaming this car already. We don't know much yet. Chill out.
It's officially official: http://www.autoblog.com/2012/05/17/h...rth-america-o/
Calling it "Holden's worst kept secret," a report in Australia's Drive indicates that the General Motors antipodean brand will announce "very soon" that it will be exporting "thousands of Commodores to the U.S. from 2013." Or, put another way, we will be getting thousands of Chevrolet SS Performance sedans – the Pontiac G8 in a previous life – starting next year.
The report says Holden is divulging the news earlier than planned because leaks just about everywhere, including OnStar, as well as trade-publication reports and speculation about GM's 2013 NASCAR entrant, have got everyone looking southward for confirmation of the answer we already (almost) know.
Drive says our rear-wheel drive Chevrolet will get a revised take on the VF-model Commodore that has an aluminum hood to make it lighter and less aggressive wheel arches to make it more slippery. No hard numbers are attached to the export rumors, but it is expected to number "much fewer than the 50,000-odd" units that were predicted for the Pontiac G8 program.
The scintillating line for bitter enthusiasts still chafing over the confirmed-then-cancelled G8 ST Ute corn tease is that the exports "could also expand to involve ute and sportwagon variants." Drive didn't, but we will emphasize the word "could," since we've been here before. However, that does jive with a report in Car and Driver indicating the same thing. Holden's announcement could be made as soon as later today right now – see below for update.
*UPDATE: Well that didn't take long. General Motors has officially confirmed that the new Holden-derived sedan will be called simply Chevrolet SS. The SS will race in NASCAR beginning with the 2013 Daytona 500 and will appear in showrooms in 2014. GM isn't getting into specifics, but says "The much anticipated Australian-built car will benefit from significant technology advances which enhance overall performance." As to additional bodystyles like a wagon or pickup, well, GM isn't saying. See more in the official press release added below, and click on the image above to get a look at GM's newest racer all camo'd up.
Out of all the cars in the market, they can be arranged in a pyramid, like this:
1. Cars I would buy, and are actually in the market for (zero or very few models at any point in time)
2. Cars I like, and would buy if I were in the market for, but I'm just not right now (a slightly larger number of cars, of which this is one)
3. Cars I like, might recommend, but wouldn't likely buy (a pretty large group of cars)
4. Cars I don't like, wouldn't likely recommend (most cars)
The existence of the second and third groups seems to bother you. Why?
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'99 Camaro SS 6MT | '04 Accord V6 EX Coupe 5AT
Originally Posted by Boyz in da Park
Are the powertrains really completely unchanged? Up against the Taurus and new Charger it seems suicidal to not offer the direct-injection version of the V6. That was one of the biggest oversights of the G8 to me... there was practically no fuel economy benefit to the V6. This car with the fuel economy of the base Camaro would be a more appealing package.
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New Stuff: Two RWD Platforms On the Way
Today’s Zeta will morph into the lighter and even more flexible Zeta II for 2015, at which point the Camaro will move onto the Alpha component set also used by Cadillac’s ATS and next-gen CTS. Before that happens, though, Chevy will sell a pair of Zeta-based cars. Actually, the first of these is already on sale—if you’re a state, county, or municipal government that’s allowed to purchase imported products. (Many departments have rules that prevent them from purchasing vehicles not assembled in America.) The vehicle is the Chevrolet Caprice PPV.
The second vehicle, of course, is the most interesting. Perhaps as a way to justify future North American production of its cop car, perhaps simply because Chevy “gets it,” a civilized, civilian take on the PPV joins the model lineup next year. Wearing the SuperSport badge, the car will initially ride on the current Zeta platform and be offered exclusively as a four-door sedan. The SuperSport name and styling also will be applied to the 2013 Chevrolet NASCAR entry. The launch powerplant for the roadgoing car is expected to be the Camaro SS’s 6.2-liter V-8, pumping out something on the high side of 415 hp. A version of GM’s latest 3.6-liter V-6 will be added after the launch for the weaker of heart; we’d expect this engine to produce at least 320 hp. The SuperSport and the Caprice PPV will then migrate to the Zeta II platform in time for the 2015.5 model year. When this happens, full production will shift to North America, thereby delivering a much larger market for the cop version. In addition to the SuperSport sedan, a cropped-rear-overhang sport wagon and a Ute pickup are being considered for the North American market.
Zeta II also will be used for two Chinese-market Buicks starting in late 2014, and one or both of these cars could arrive in North American showrooms if it’s determined that brand needs large rear-drive cars. Conspicuously absent from the Zeta II plans is anything from Cadillac. That’s another story—and another platform.
Last edited by whitejeep1989; 05-17-2012 at 03:27 PM.
Holden was offered the Sigma (CTS) platform but it was too expensive for the Commodore's market segment. Keep in mind that this car is essentially the Chevy Impala of Australia – cheap and big, sees copious amounts of fleet duty, and is Oz's taxi of choice. This is all readily apparent when you drive a G8. Corners were cut in the interest of saving cash.
Like I said, with the Commodore quickly losing its top sales position, Holden needs to do something pretty bold with this next car.