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      10-04-2012 10:49 AM #176
      Quote Originally Posted by x1000rpms View Post
      Not to mention the Nazi's used it. I guess if you are trying to make your car more European this is one route.
      That's like saying 'you shouldn't buy an Ottoman because they killed a lot of Armenians'. Political correctness has to be sensible sometimes.

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      10-04-2012 10:58 AM #177
      Quote Originally Posted by AKADriver View Post
      No different from the image of Chevy products here, except replace the bucket hat with a trucker cap and the beer with a Natty Ice. It's not like Americans have some romanticized vision of Australia the way we often do for Europe. Your redneck muscle cars just have four doors instead of two like ours, and that makes them more desirable for those of us rednecks who have families.
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      10-04-2012 12:04 PM #178
      Saying it is not ok for GM to sell a car name "SS" because WW2 is as stupid as saying it is not ok for Porsche to sell a car name "911" because of the September 11 attack.
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      10-04-2012 03:12 PM #179
      A little insight from the G8 days.

      I was selling new Pontiacs during those days. When GM threatened to bring the Ute over as the G8, I personally had 3 local funeral homes ready with cash for them. Why? Because, to make a flower car out of a Caddy costs over $60k+ brand new. The G8 Ute would have been around $30k and only maybe another $10k after putting the slides and rails in the bed. It also would have been a resell-able car once it came time to replace the fleet. Flower cars are just sawed up Cadillacs, but the Ute would have been for the most part unaltered.

      I think there is a market for Utes. It may be small, but done correctly and having entry level trim levels it can be done.
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      10-04-2012 11:56 PM #180
      Quote Originally Posted by ChiTownA34DR View Post
      A little insight from the G8 days.

      I was selling new Pontiacs during those days. When GM threatened to bring the Ute over as the G8, I personally had 3 local funeral homes ready with cash for them. Why? Because, to make a flower car out of a Caddy costs over $60k+ brand new. The G8 Ute would have been around $30k and only maybe another $10k after putting the slides and rails in the bed. It also would have been a resell-able car once it came time to replace the fleet. Flower cars are just sawed up Cadillacs, but the Ute would have been for the most part unaltered.

      I think there is a market for Utes. It may be small, but done correctly and having entry level trim levels it can be done.

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      10-05-2012 12:19 AM #181
      Quote Originally Posted by AKADriver View Post
      The pictures you posted just hammer home mine and J-Tim's point. Those cars have some baaaaaarely visible front end similarity to production cars, and some window cutout shapes, but otherwise are just slab sided stamped out from the same mold cars which bear no real resemblance to production. NASCAR hasn't used REAL production bodies since like, the sixties.
      If you cannot see how these 2013 NASCAR cup cars give a very good indication to what the production varients look like (at least the front facia) then forget it.

      As I said before - if someone can highlight the edges of the camoflauged 2013 SS cup car, it would give a very good idea of what the production one will look like (from the front).
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      10-05-2012 09:24 AM #182
      Quote Originally Posted by ChiTownA34DR View Post
      When GM threatened to bring the Ute over as the G8, I personally had 3 local funeral homes ready with cash for them. Why? Because, to make a flower car out of a Caddy costs over $60k+ brand new. The G8 Ute would have been around $30k and only maybe another $10k after putting the slides and rails in the bed. It also would have been a resell-able car once it came time to replace the fleet. Flower cars are just sawed up Cadillacs, but the Ute would have been for the most part unaltered.
      So that accounts for a couple of hundred per year.

      I've seen in this area a couple of funeral homes using the Cadillac Escalade EXT as flower cars. Since those are now out of production, I could imagine the GMC Sierra Denali used in it's place.

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      10-05-2012 10:31 AM #183
      Quote Originally Posted by robr2 View Post
      So that accounts for a couple of hundred per year.

      I've seen in this area a couple of funeral homes using the Cadillac Escalade EXT as flower cars. Since those are now out of production, I could imagine the GMC Sierra Denali used in it's place.
      That is a couple hundred in sales that are almost a guarantee. I know of a few small business owners that would use it for picking up their stock for the day. They had to buy a full size when they didn't need one. The couple hundred a year from each group in businesses alone would slowly add up to thousands and tens of thousands. I think the Ute would be a hit but only if they offered in a entry level model for businesses.
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      10-05-2012 02:04 PM #184
      Supposed pics of the SS production model.



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      10-05-2012 03:54 PM #186
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      10-05-2012 06:07 PM #187
      Looks good!

      20" Camaro wheel helps too. Which they also help enhance the G8's look.



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      10-05-2012 06:10 PM #188
      I believe that will be it...everything lines up with the front of the Cup car, and it has the same "vent" in the front fender/door on the cup car as well.

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      10-05-2012 06:17 PM #189
      Quote Originally Posted by MrRoboto View Post
      That's like saying 'you shouldn't buy an Ottoman because they killed a lot of Armenians'. Political correctness has to be sensible sometimes.
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      10-05-2012 06:20 PM #190
      Looks like I will be keeping my Trailblazer to get that principal amount owed down and pick one of these bad boys up.
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      10-05-2012 06:21 PM #191
      Quote Originally Posted by Woodski View Post
      Supposed pics of the SS production model.



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      10-05-2012 06:23 PM #192
      forgot about this.

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      10-05-2012 06:36 PM #193
      I'm a fan of all kinds of cars, but not seeing the excitement around this one. Too many better RWD or AWD options out there, imo. Looks don't do it for me in any way either, at least not from the above pics.

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      10-05-2012 06:42 PM #194
      Quote Originally Posted by 16VSerenity View Post
      I'm a fan of all kinds of cars, but not seeing the excitement around this one. Too many better RWD or AWD options out there, imo. Looks don't do it for me in any way either, at least not from the above pics.
      To early to tell, but, the more 300 + hp V8 cars available in the low $30k range the better.

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      10-05-2012 07:33 PM #195
      Quote Originally Posted by 16VSerenity View Post
      I'm a fan of all kinds of cars, but not seeing the excitement around this one. Too many better RWD or AWD options out there, imo. Looks don't do it for me in any way either, at least not from the above pics.

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    21. 10-05-2012 07:45 PM #196
      Quote Originally Posted by ChiTownA34DR View Post
      A little insight from the G8 days.

      I was selling new Pontiacs during those days. When GM threatened to bring the Ute over as the G8, I personally had 3 local funeral homes ready with cash for them. Why? Because, to make a flower car out of a Caddy costs over $60k+ brand new. The G8 Ute would have been around $30k and only maybe another $10k after putting the slides and rails in the bed. It also would have been a resell-able car once it came time to replace the fleet. Flower cars are just sawed up Cadillacs, but the Ute would have been for the most part unaltered.

      I think there is a market for Utes. It may be small, but done correctly and having entry level trim levels it can be done.
      That makes complete sense.

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      10-05-2012 08:18 PM #197
      Quote Originally Posted by mortician79 View Post
      That makes complete sense.
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    23. 10-06-2012 02:17 AM #198
      Quote Originally Posted by Woodski View Post
      Supposed pics of the SS production model.


      Negative. That is an artist's rendering that has been floating around for awhile.

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      10-06-2012 02:19 AM #199
      Quote Originally Posted by OakRidge View Post
      Negative. That is an artist's rendering that has been floating around for awhile.
      Should I embolden the word "supposed" in his post?
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      10-06-2012 03:11 AM #200
      Quote Originally Posted by OakRidge View Post
      Negative. That is an artist's rendering that has been floating around for awhile.
      However, every design feature on it lines up correctly with the NASCAR stockcar.

    26. 10-06-2012 04:28 AM #201
      Quote Originally Posted by ChiTownA34DR View Post
      Looks good!

      20" Camaro wheel helps too. Which they also help enhance the G8's look.



      Agreed theres a white g8 i see parked by me i think its slightly lowerd every time i see it damn thing makes me break neck everytime i see it.

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      10-06-2012 05:08 AM #202
      Quote Originally Posted by Woodski View Post
      They share exactly zero body panels or interior pieces.

      Different car.
      Front doors are shared and pretty much all the interior pieces from the B pillar forward are shared, some minor differences due to spec differences. The Caprice floor pan is longer naturally but other then that the basic structure is the same.
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      10-10-2012 12:16 PM #203
      Quote Originally Posted by Woodski View Post
      Supposed pics of the SS production model.


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      10-10-2012 12:20 PM #204
      Quote Originally Posted by Woodski View Post
      Supposed pics of the SS production model.


      the lines appear to be the same as the cup car... I am going to guess the actual car is going to look very close to this one.
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      11-29-2012 01:48 PM #206
      now... why not show the production car first... that just tells me... nothing except what the grille and lights look like

    32. 11-29-2012 01:51 PM #207
      Quote Originally Posted by Chapel View Post
      now... why not show the production car first... that just tells me... nothing except what the grille and lights look like
      Who the F knows, but I like where this is going . . .

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      11-29-2012 01:59 PM #208
      Quote Originally Posted by Rob View Post
      Who the F knows, but I like where this is going . . .
      yeah, I do too...

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      11-29-2012 02:09 PM #209
      Quote Originally Posted by OakRidge View Post
      Negative. That is an artist's rendering that has been floating around for awhile.
      I hope so. It looks like it'd fit nicely alongside the GTO and G8. It may perform very well, and maybe even have a very nice interior, but it should look like it was made to serve the meaty part of this decade, not the previous decade.
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      11-29-2012 02:25 PM #210
      That looks nice. This is going to be a good looking car, and based on how GM has been performing lately, the car itself (performance, refinement, etc) is going to match the looks. Fingers crossed that it sells well.
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