Is that the eagle E type I see there?
Well, in that respect it is two different games. Did it irk you to spend money on DLC for FM4 when you spent it (hypothetically) on DLC for FM3?
And as others have said, no Porsche for Horizon at least to begin with. EA still holds the license, and since the new 911 is featured in the new Need for Speed, they're probably hoping that the exclusivity of it will drive sales.
I hope, once these games have been out for awhile, EA will release a sub-license to enable an expansion much like FM4. That is, if the $$ makes sense. I've heard the FM4 Porsche expansion didn't sell well, at which point it may not be worth it for Playground/T10 to fork over the money for a sub-license.
I don't like it, but I understand these decisions from a business standpoint.
Also, here are some new screen shots, and a new video with DLC info. Car packs every month starting on Day 1, and also expansion packs starting on Dec 18th.
Last edited by OptimusGlen; 09-18-2012 at 09:59 AM.
“I am not a Mac user unless under duress.” - John Carmack
They need some kind of LCE that includes all future DLC for the title. I'd pay something for that.
As it is, we pay $80 for the LCE, what, $200 on DLC? Then they come out with a disc a year later for $30 that includes all of it.
If that's not insulting, I don't know what is.
Also, cars bought with "tokens" (real money) or in the AH need to be sellable in-game. This 100cr stuff is BS.
While we're at it, how hard would it be to script a "press "B" to remove locked setup/livery" option when you go to sell a car,
or to have the game place you in the first car in your garage if you sell/auction/gift/whatever the car you're in?
The way it is, you have to get in, go unlock the livery, go unlock the tuning, get out, go find it again in your list, then sell/auction/whatever.
What a pain.
Do these guys not really play the game? This is day-to-day stuff that would have been easily fixed in FM1.
Love the graphics and driving physics of this game, but the rest of it really wears on me sometimes.
If you are willing to adjust your game purchase timing by a year or 2 after initial release, you will save ALOT!! I already do these for all my games. Most of the PC games I bought from Steam are usually under $20. And I almost only buy "Game of the year" or Platinum edition for Xbox360. (except Forza series) The last xbox game i bought is Red Dead Redemption GotY for $19.99 around 3 months ago
“I am not a Mac user unless under duress.” - John Carmack
You guys can complain about the price all day long. Never has the saying "You gotta pay to play." been more relevant.
You have a choice, no one is forcing you to buy the game or the DLC on day one. You can wait till the "F-you" edition comes out for $30. Is that fair? Yes, yes it is.
The only time I ever felt mildly upset by a game of the year pack was when the Forza 3 Ultimate Collection came out and it had a few cars that you could ONLY get by buying that edition. I had happily purchased and enjoyed all previous DLC, but knowing I'd have to spend an additional $30 to get 3 cars rubbed me wrong.
I've adjusted my buying habits knowing this kind of thing happens though, it's the new reality for gaming. There are certain franchises I'll want to play day 1 and will buy them and the dlc, but for games like Fallout 3, Red Dead Redemption, Dirt 3, Batman Arkham City and eventually Skyrim (and Dragon's Dogma if it ever happens), I just wait for the GOTY edition to come out for $20-30 and enjoy the game and the savings then.
I don't want to just complain here, but I understand the frustration with spending lots of money all over again on horizon. So far, I can't get excited for this game because every single car, save the jag eagle 1, is just a carry over from the game that we are all already playing. The whole "release a car a day" ad campaign falls flat for me because and just makes it feel like they are trying to rehash old news into new. If the new game is only going to have a limited selection of cars that are in forza, that is a big bummer to me. If the new game is goings have all the cars from forza and more, get busy telling us what the "more" is.
Like I said, I don't just want to complain. The game looks like it will be fun, but I don't think they are doing a good job of focusing on why we should spend new money for a new game if it is only a variation on what we already have. To be fair, I felt this way to a certain degree about switching from forza 3 to 4. They did a better job that time though of just talking about the new features. The pitch I remember is, "all the cars you know and love from forza 3 plus new tracks, new cars, improved physics, Pirelli helping refine tire characteristics, rivals, more cars in online reaches, etc.". The pitching am hearing for fh is," all of Hesse awesome cars that are already in the game that you are already playing, but you can drive them in an open world environment or do some kind of race series that we aren't really explaining. As you can drive around and search for cars that you can already drive without having to hunt them down if you already own forza 4. Plus you get cool points for hitting signs and stuff"
I am just not sold. But I am glad that so many people do like it. Hopefully it will help better accommodate people that want to race online in track settings vs people that want to tool around on back roads and hoon to their hearts are content.
I don't buy these games to play against the computer all by myself, I buy to play with friends, share tunes and liveries, etc.
That doesn't work when everyone's on to the next title.
And yeah, selling a game you've asked others to dump nearly $300 into for $30 is insulting.
It would be different if there were no community to it and it was just a matter of "wanting the latest thing".
But when it's a matter of wanting to play "with other people" (some of us actually have friends?), it makes all the difference in the world.
Audi 2012 R8 GT Spyder
Bentley 2012 Continental GT
2009 Corvette ZR1 Convertable
Dodge Viper ACR-X
Ferrari 2013 458 Spider
Ford 2010 Focus RS500
2013 Shelby GT500
Gumpert 2012 apollo sport
Infiniti 2013 G37 IPL Coupe
Jeep 2013 Grand Cherokee SRT8
Land Rover 2012 Range Rover Supercharged
Mercedes-Benz 2012 S 65 AMG
Nissan 2012 GTR
Also, they have NEVER said that ALL of the cars from FM4 would be in FH. In fact they have said that there will be none of the sponsored race cars from FM4 in FH.
I stand corrected on the new cars. I didn't mean to say that they have said that all of the cars from FM4 are in the game. Just that watching the photos showing up on the facebook feed and that folks are posting in here make me think that they are trying to make old news feel like new. I really am not trying to convince anybody to not buy the game. I guess all I am saying is that it doesn't appeal to me at full price. I will most likely pick this up a year or 2 down the line when it is cheap.
On the positive side, I bet people will be able to take really cool photos in this game compared to FM4. With the open world environment, the background options are virtually limitless.
And the second "Behind the Scenes" video
Some interesting and saddening bits of info released: No dirt/dust accumulation on the cars if you go off road. And no converting of convertables. (i.e. if the top is up, you cannot put it down, and vice-versa)
Last edited by OptimusGlen; 09-25-2012 at 11:07 AM.
That would be giving T10/PG too much benefit of the doubt. The DLC will probably be car packs, and "expansion" packs consisting of events. Think "Race from point C to D instead of point A to B" and crap like that.
I would be surprised if any DLC included new environments.