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    Thread: *Unofficial* Pricing added to 2013 Ford Fusion configurator; Fusion S starts at $22,495

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      05-24-2012 12:50 AM #36
      Quote Originally Posted by bzcat View Post
      The new Fusion should have useable rear seats which the CC lacks.
      Huh?

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      05-24-2012 09:19 AM #37
      Love the styling on the new Fusion.

      Really hope they don't botch it with another crappy automatic transmission though. All the reviews I've read on Focus / Fiesta / Mustangs with their Chinese-built AT's are pretty negative on otherwise good cars.

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      05-24-2012 09:25 AM #38
      Quote Originally Posted by akuma View Post
      i don't think the CC has adaptive cruise or lane departure warning or the gimmicky self park, but it does have a couple other features (adaptive HIDs, massaging and ventilated seats, rear power sun shade) including a much more powerful engine......
      ....that sucks gas like it's 1995. Seriously, 25mpg out of a V6 midsize sedan is downright unacceptable these days. Otherwise, it's a nice alternative, if you don't need a lot of backseat room.
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      05-24-2012 09:25 AM #39
      Quote Originally Posted by spongebob_squarepants View Post
      Love the styling on the new Fusion.

      Really hope they don't botch it with another crappy automatic transmission though. All the reviews I've read on Focus / Fiesta / Mustangs with their Chinese-built AT's are pretty negative on otherwise good cars.
      The PowerShift transmission in the Focus and Fiesta is built in Mexico. The Mustang's automatic transmission is built in Michigan.
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      05-24-2012 09:27 AM #40
      Quote Originally Posted by spongebob_squarepants View Post
      Love the styling on the new Fusion.

      Really hope they don't botch it with another crappy automatic transmission though. All the reviews I've read on Focus / Fiesta / Mustangs with their Chinese-built AT's are pretty negative on otherwise good cars.
      I think those reviews were and are unfair. Other than very early builds, they've reflashed the transmission software and they're all just fine by now. No, it doesn't act exactly like some smooshy torque converter auto, but any harshness is a thing of the past. I've driven a couple of Focuses with that transmission and found them refreshingly crisp.
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      05-24-2012 10:26 AM #41
      Quote Originally Posted by PassSedanGLX View Post
      The PowerShift transmission in the Focus and Fiesta is built in Mexico. The Mustang's automatic transmission is built in Michigan.
      I stand corrected. Regardless of country of manufacture, the Mexican-built Focus / Fiesta tranny and American-built 'Stang tranny have not gotten stellar reviews. I hope the '13 Fusion has a good AT.

      Chinese would be the MT-82 six speed manual in the Mustang.

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      05-24-2012 10:46 AM #42
      HIDs?

      http://www.ford.com/cars/fusion/2013...page=Feature27

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      05-24-2012 11:11 AM #43
      Quote Originally Posted by NoDubJustYet View Post
      Halogen projectors with optional HIDs.
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      05-24-2012 11:17 AM #44
      Quote Originally Posted by Turbio! View Post
      Halogen projectors with optional HIDs.

      Hmmm... Only on the Titanium Package? I didn't see the option.

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      05-24-2012 01:39 PM #45
      Quote Originally Posted by spongebob_squarepants View Post
      I stand corrected. Regardless of country of manufacture, the Mexican-built Focus / Fiesta tranny and American-built 'Stang tranny have not gotten stellar reviews. I hope the '13 Fusion has a good AT.

      Chinese would be the MT-82 six speed manual in the Mustang.
      Fusion and Escape get the same 6-speed GM-Ford FWD tranny that is used in a gazillion other cars from Buick Regal to Ford Explorer.

    11. 05-25-2012 01:15 AM #46
      Quote Originally Posted by Turbio! View Post
      ....that sucks gas like it's 1995. Seriously, 25mpg out of a V6 midsize sedan is downright unacceptable these days. Otherwise, it's a nice alternative, if you don't need a lot of backseat room.
      does the 2012 Fusion Sport V6 AWD suck gas like it's 1995? it only gets 17/25 as well. how about the 2013 MKZ V6 AWD with or without Ecoboost? it's probably not going to do much better. but a thirsty V6 is justified in a luxury car, i guess. the new Azera gets 29 mpg on regular (although FWD only) despite being a larger, heavier and more powerful car. i don't think the new Fusion 2.0 with AWD is going to do better than 31 mpg according to the EPA, considering the Escape only gets 28 mpg and the weight-to-power ratios are fairly similar. considering that the boosted engines are relatively underpowered compared to their V6 competitors, i bet you'll have to punch the gas more to get similar performance. i don't think the real world difference between the 2.0 and the V6s are going to be that different. just look at Hyundai/Kia's turbos.

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      05-25-2012 07:34 PM #47
      My question is why no stick in the 2.5L model. It would make it more affordable and probably better to drive as well.

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      05-26-2012 04:25 PM #48
      Quote Originally Posted by Turbio! View Post
      ....that sucks gas like it's 1995. Seriously, 25mpg out of a V6 midsize sedan is downright unacceptable these days. Otherwise, it's a nice alternative, if you don't need a lot of backseat room.
      You're the second person to say that about the CC's rear seats. I feel pretty comfy in the back of it, no less so than my road-boat's. Granted, my friend's sasquatch brother might find it less than roomy, but the CC's back seat isn't like a Camaro's or anything.

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      05-26-2012 04:30 PM #49
      Quote Originally Posted by akuma View Post
      does the 2012 Fusion Sport V6 AWD suck gas like it's 1995? it only gets 17/25 as well. s.
      No, I'm not referring to the outgoing and already out of production last-gen model.

      Quote Originally Posted by akuma View Post
      i don't think the real world difference between the 2.0 and the V6s are going to be that different. just look at Hyundai/Kia's turbos.
      The Hyundai and Kia engines are rated at 36mpg. Even driven hard, they still return 30mpg.

      Quote Originally Posted by akuma View Post
      i don't think the new Fusion 2.0 with AWD is going to do better than 31 mpg according to the EPA, considering the Escape only gets 28 mpg and the weight-to-power ratios are fairly similar.s.
      Weight is not terribly relevant to highway fuel economy. Frontal area and cD is usually the main issue. The Fusion has less frontal area than the Escape, and so it should be up around 33-35mpg highway.
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      06-03-2012 10:18 PM #50
      So does anyone here know what month this is supposed to be released in?

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      06-03-2012 10:36 PM #51
      I want to say they should start arriving at dealers this month but it may be Fall 2012.

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      07-10-2012 05:15 PM #52
      any news on a Fusion ST or Sport model?

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