I was the one who drove the bagged blue Subaru... Are some of you saying I'm not allowed to attend a VAG show? I love European cars and the scene and that is why I go. I don't park my car in the show nor do I intend to. I park on the sidelines and walk around admiring peoples work. Most "JDM" shows suck ass and are full of ricers and people that don't appreciate stance. The euro scene doesn't have that as much and that is why I like it. So do some of you think that I should not go to any VAG events now that I sold my mk3?
I like cars and cars in general I have 66 beetle that I wanted to bring but don't want to drive it 13 hours so I decided to take my S13 Silvia which didn't make it either I wish it did tho because everyone would have been mad it's not a vw/Audi
Ok this is my 4th year coming to sowo and the reason I came to the show is to see the VAG cars. I drove the white Si on futuras, literally pulled in on friday and parked my car at the hotel all night. Just for the 2 seconds I drove through there were like 5 people who yelled **** at me simply because i was in a honda. I understand completely that we shouldnt even be allowed to park in the show. Which is why i parked across from the tubing place just like they said we had to. I wasnt going to show anything, if anything i knew i would get more hate then love at a show like this so why even bother. But just becuase my only car is a honda that means im not allowed to come? I mean really? Some people need to grow up and the organizers need to do a better job at letting ONLY vag cars in the show because i saw numerous subarus in the main lot.
And there are exceptions to every rule, I would NEVER hate on a vw for coming to import alliance. I personally look forward to sowo more than any other meet that I attend simply because you VW guys take pride in having clean ass cars, well most of you do. And its nice seeing something different for a change. I just wish some of you werent so closed minded about HONDA's like were all ricers or something. Were all car guys/gals and we meet alot of cool people every year so why not keep the scene alive vs bashing it simply because of the make of cars we decide to drive.
I go because I enjoy the VAG scene, although I sold my B7 about a year ago....and yea, pulled into the booth and kept hearing how this was no place for an E46. But no harm was done, I had a blast.
at least I didn't bring the 20th with all its euro spec bits.. gotta wait til everyone else's 20th is completely unrecognizable and/or crashed for people to give a damn about mine
I personally dont like hondas but seriousley looking at GTI and Jettas on coils and knock off wheels or even nice wheels ets old.. its cool and all but i dont mind seeing other cars either and different styles VW dudes tend to all stick to the same **** its at least nice to see on other cars..why you complaining more the merrier and more fun partying
Yes those JDM guys were just there to be differant I am sure they actually hate cars. It does suck that some people are f--sticks. At least the VAG people who were so inconvenianced by those SoWo ruining JDM guys were courteous enough to pelt them with rice when they drove by and yell sh!t at them, unless it was some sort of bridal ceremony type thing and now you're all married.
I don't have a problem with non-VAG cars being in town, but I don't think they should be in the show. It's well known this is a show for VAG, not Japanese or anything else. I don't dislike them, but this is our community, our show. My wife didn't understand last year why so many BMWs were there, but at least they were Euro.
Would this also mean we should just park our VAGs in a Mustang car show (I know, bad reference)? If the other cars keep parking in the show, I really don't care, but when people like my wife (she has 0 interest in cars) noticed and says things like "I thought this was a VW/Audi show, why are so many Hondas etc. here?" that says a lot. Come to the show, but come to see what the VAG scene is all about, not because you have the urge to show your car at the show.
It isn't about being a snob, at least for me, and I know the show's free, so I'm not really bothered, but I can go anywhere and see JDM, Fords, Chevys, and so forth; I just think it's cool to be able to go to a show for only VWs and Audis. In a lot of ways our scene is way different, but I think a lot of this has changed with the show growing each year as well.
Your point brings me to another question... why are the other shows, JDM stuff in particular so bad about stealing or damaging property? I know, off topic so don't answer if you don't want. I've never been to another specific show, other than classics back in the day. Those guys never had the same rift raft and shenanigans.
Good thing nothing was getting stolen, no cars were vandalized, no banners were cut down and no fights were breaking out at SoWo, I mean the VAG crowd is so chiil and respectful. Except for that rice throwing thing.
there is a part of the JDM crowd that is bad. really bad. But id like to think (and speak for myself) when i say the JDM kids that come to these shows are not the same. BUT we have the same kids in the vw crowd. 2 people got their wheels stolen at h2o, last year at sowo i believe someone got their rear th lines stolen, everyshow someone is missing stubby antennas, 1 year at h2o someone stole a freaking r32 front bumper. So VW kids are not the exception. There are ****ty enthusiasts in every scene
Appparently hardest for the shows organizers. It is very gracious of you to ALLOW them to attend but in no way participate. You should organize an event just like SoWo but with Fasccist like security where nobody you dont approve of gets in.
I show up at SoWo and just think HOLY FACK LOOK AT ALL THE COOL A$$ CARS! I hope I am not alone.
As always, we here at SOWO welcome everyone who has an interest in our event! We are very appreciative of everyone who supports us no matter what they drive. As far as we're concerned anyone who takes the time to modify their car is above all else an enthusiast....and that's what the car hobby is all about.
Having said that....SOWO was conceived as an enthusiast festival for owners of vehicles within the Volkswagen Audi Porsche family. The main event site is designated for owners of those brands. The area set aside for Other Euros is intended for for just that. If you are attending in any car considered JDM, Tuner, Sport Compact or otherwise non-Euro, you are always welcome to join the fun but you will need to be prepared to park in the original event area in the parking lot across from Cool River Tubing.
We have had virtually very kind of import car imaginable participate in SOWO going all the way back to the first year, and we are always impressed with the level of preparation, build quality, stance and overall impact of these cars, but SOWO is, was and will always be focused on the marques it was intended for.
As a BMW enthusiast (i had the maroon E36 on white wheels) and especially a European car enthusiast i bring my car to any euro event.
I love Euro period.
I strongly hate JDM cars but i LOVE ones that are done correctly and tastefully.
I love the VAG scene. You guys know how to have a good time and pick AWESOME locations for your events.
BMW events are boring and mostly held in large parking lots........
I come to H20 and Sowo (first time this year and had a blast) and other VAG events because i have allot of VAG friends and always have a part of me that wants a Volkswagen.
TLDR:
Euros should love one another no matter what make.
JDMS are cool when done right.
CANT WE CALL GET ALONG AND DRINK :beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer:
The bolded part is the most important. If you don't drive a VAG car, you're still welcome to the show, per the organizers of SOWO.
I agree that the main showgrounds should only include VAG cars, but vendors can bring whatever they'd like to display in their booths. They're the ones helping to make the show happen!
This whole debate is kind of pointless... The whole weekend was amazing, regardless of what make of vehicle showed up. SOWO creates an instant community of car enthusiasts that's hard to find anywhere else.
Let's all just be happy that this spectacular show has such a welcoming home and a dedicated group of individuals that want to make it happen every year. :thumbup:
Sounds like the only people who were "expecting" to be on the show field is the people who showed up too late then got butthurt someone let in a few subarus. Just saying.
Personally I didnt mind seeing them come to Helen. True car enthusiasts will go where all the good shows are. It just so happens that VAG shows DO IT RIGHT! I enjoyed seeing all of the cars that weekend, even the JDM ones.
But seeing them take spots up on the show grounds where other VAG rides cant get in cause it was full was slightly disappointing.
Correct on the last part. That is why my miata was parked in a parking lot all alone. All the other non VAG are more of "guest" to the event. I mean it is a VW/audi show and everyone has worked really hard to make it what it is. I wouldn't expect a VW to come park in the middle of a all Mazda meet. But I would welcome them no question to come and enjoy every aspect of the event.
Can't you just understand that many of these folks actually would enjoy a show filled with their own cars and without the same "outcasts" in attendance? There are plenty of shows that embrace diversity. Don't use the "my car scene sucks, so I attend VW shows" as an excuse.
Lol you're a clown. I just said i agree that it should have ONLY been vag cars in the main lot. The only people to blame is the staff. Would I have a complaint for them? Absolutely not, this show is my favorite and probably always will be. Like i stated earlier this is the 4th year I've been to sowo, I've never shown or registered my car for the event. I respect that it's a vag show and don't bother trying to show bc i know how passionate you people are about keeping it an all vag show. But there is a huge double standard bc there are a million bmw's that show up and they are perfectly fine. So maybe you should focus on bitching about the bmw's that stole all these spots.
And I'm not going bc your scene is "cooler," I'm going to look at the cars.
Based on the showground map and info before the show, ANY non-VAG car was supposed to not be in the showgrounds or even in booths. BMWs would be classified as non-VAG, regardless of them being German cars
Funny, there was a thread in the H2O forums that said it was the dopest shiz at the show. :screwy: You guys don't know a well built car when you see one.
I Used to own a MKIV R32, and I Still love the VW scene. Is it really that big of a deal that I brought my non VW car to this event? The VW Scene used to be the most friendly of any group i'd ever seen, it seems to me that times are changing.
This is serious business going here. Lots of hurt feels on both sides of this discussion. Anyone with out hurt feels is not allowed on this thread. Please go away. Your unhurt feelings are not welcome here.
who cares... my girlfriend drives a Saturn. she attended. We road down there in a Saab. Left the s4 at home. I think everyone should look at the map of sowo, that part that says "non Vag Cars" good grief
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