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    Thread: Formula 1 is still mind-bogglingly boring

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      05-28-2012 12:29 AM #1
      ***** SPOILER ALERTS if you haven't watched the race yet *****


      I love the Monaco circuit. I would watch them race cement mixer trucks there. What a beautiful venue. So I watched the Monaco Grand Prix on TV. What a complete Yawner. Massive waste of time.

      As always, the race was already won in qualifying. The front row was #1 Webber and #2 Rosberg. The winner was #1 Webber and #2 was Rosberg.

      There were exactly TWO lead changes, and then only because Vettel ran the rain tires all race so he stayed out when the rest of the field came in for tyre changes. (It's F1 chaps, so I have to spell it T-Y-R-E.)

      I saw the first on-track pass on lap 36, just about the half-way point of the race, when Webber overtook a driver who locked the wheels at the break point. He passed the same car on lap 51. That's it. Two televised passes in a 78 lap race.

      Meanwhile, in Indianapolis:

      A record 34 lead changes.

      The winning car started 28th on the grid and was down 32 positions and running last after the 1st round of pit stops.

      THAT my friends, is racing, not this asinine ox dung called F1 where you win it in qualifying unless the lead team makes an unusually boneheaded botched pit stop.

      F1 is the most boring autosport on the planet, bar none.

      Indy car is more exciting.

      LeMans prototype is more exciting.

      Rolex Grand Am prototype is far more exciting.

      Continental Tire is more exciting.

      Hell, Australian V8 supercar is vastly more exciting than F1.

      I think F1 MIGHT be a tick over spec Miata, but I'm not sure. I'll have to double check a spec Miata race again and get back to you. I have a vague recollection that even spec Miata racing is more exciting than the mind-numbing on-track crap of F1.

      If some idiot was trying to kill F1 by making it the most boring series in all of motorsports, I can't fathom a single change they could possibly make for the worse. F1 is that bad. It is rock bottom.

      It is by far the worst motorsports racing on the globe. Awesome car and driver and great venues and the worst of all possible on-track racing that is mind-shatteringly boring.

      What an embarrassment. I keep hoping they will save this racing series but I give up. It is beyond saving. They don't give a damn if all races are won in qualifying and the pits.

      Pure unadulterated garbage. I have no clue what fans see in it beyond the brainwashing that it is the ultimate in motorsports. Sure, it could be, with the money and cars and tech and drivers. But it is not. It is pure foul-tasting tripe.


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      05-28-2012 12:31 AM #2
      Well, people like golf too. And it's a lot....I mean A LOT....better than golf.
      Now go get your shinebox

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      05-28-2012 12:35 AM #3
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      Well, people like golf too. And it's a lot....I mean A LOT....better than golf.
      being a lot better than golf does not make it good.

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      05-28-2012 12:36 AM #4
      Monaco is boring... always was and always will be. The only way to change that is to get rid of the track, which aint' going to happen.....ever.

      As for the whole Formula 1, you clearly haven't watched a single race over the past 3 seasons, besides last one.
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      05-28-2012 12:36 AM #5
      F1 is the pinnacle, but it's just too unbalanced between teams with political cred, money, and big name technology vs smaller teams that can't compete.

      That's why I prefer spec races like IndyCar.

      Though the sound of an F1 engine...

    6. 05-28-2012 12:37 AM #6
      Agreed.

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      05-28-2012 12:39 AM #7
      INB4 beating on a dead horse.

      INB4 you haveñt watched a single race this year BUT Monaco.

      INB4 Formula 1 is what it is.

      INB4 you have to watch it live

      INB4 Nascar is real boring, and so is Drag Racing.


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      05-28-2012 12:46 AM #9
      Indy was terrible too. Seriously it's worse than nascar. Open wheel is exciting in f2 and karts.
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      05-28-2012 12:52 AM #10
      MotoGP's Moto2 series is by far one of the most exciting racing venues today. You really can't guess who's going to win, so many overtakes, all bikes have the same motor so it's all skill and not whoever has the fastest bike wins, like MotoGP (see:Casey Stoner and the HRC team)

      Monaco has no passing points really, it's too narrow.

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      05-28-2012 12:53 AM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by 2Cor View Post
      Indy was terrible too. Seriously it's worse than nascar. Open wheel is exciting in f2 and karts.
      Been to every Indy 500 since 1999. This comment is as ignorant as is the one saying "F1 is boring this season" ... This year's race was the best I can remember - and I'm not delusional thinking it's not better on TV (cuz it is, I watch the broadcast when I get home...) Anyway, back to F1... the move back to mechanical grip (slick tires) and lessening importance on aero in F1 has completely revitalized the sport in my mind. The season thus far has turned out to be one of the more interesting series...6 different winners in 6 races...3 champions... I mean I understand if you don't like the sport, but to call it boring is quite ignorant.

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      05-28-2012 12:56 AM #12
      My advice; watch GP2 champ series. It's right before F1 at the same tracks on speed network. Its much more exciting. They take risks, get in accidents, its good racing.
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      05-28-2012 01:00 AM #13
      Quote Originally Posted by Eightysixturbo View Post
      My advice; watch GP2 champ series. It's right before F1 at the same tracks on speed network. Its much more exciting. They take risks, get in accidents, its good racing.
      I'd love to watch GP2. Unfortunately, there are no channels (pay or free) in Australia to watch them on.
      The only option is to download.


      As for Indy vs. F1. I am sure watching oval racing is fun in real life, but it just doesn't translate well to TV, IMO.
      Those Indy races that get staged on street circuits are far more exciting to watch... Gold Coast comes to mind.
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      05-28-2012 01:06 AM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by BTM View Post
      Been to every Indy 500 since 1999. This comment is as ignorant as is the one saying "F1 is boring this season"
      Obviously you find it exciting. Your disagreement doesn't make me ignorant, it means we disagree (I find ovals exceptionally monotonous). No need to be abrasive.
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      05-28-2012 01:07 AM #15
      Quote Originally Posted by Señor Peligro View Post
      Well, people like golf too. And it's a lot....I mean A LOT....better than golf.
      IDK.. many golf tournaments are decided in the last 30 minutes of play.
      Not so much F1.
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      05-28-2012 01:08 AM #16
      Quote Originally Posted by 2Cor View Post
      Obviously you find it exciting. Your disagreement doesn't make me ignorant, it means we disagree. No need to be abrasive.
      I'm not being abrasive - you specifically pointed to this year's race which was actually one of the best. You can get off watching whatever you want, that's a fact, but if you seriously found this year's race "boring" than I think you may have a separate definition of that word than everyone else...

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      05-28-2012 01:13 AM #19
      Quote Originally Posted by BTM View Post
      I'm not being abrasive - you specifically pointed to this year's race which was actually one of the best. You can get off watching whatever you want, that's a fact, but if you seriously found this year's race "boring" than I think you may have a separate definition of that word than everyone else...
      It's better than previous years which have been equally boring. It's unfortunate that you don't like that description but that's what it is. 1989 is the last exciting year I can remember.
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      05-28-2012 01:16 AM #20
      Quote Originally Posted by 2Cor View Post
      Indy was terrible too. Seriously it's worse than nascar. Open wheel is exciting in f2 and karts.

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      05-28-2012 01:21 AM #21
      Quote Originally Posted by 2Cor View Post
      It's better than previous years which have been equally boring. It's unfortunate that you don't like that description but that's what it is. 1989 is the last exciting year I can remember.
      I remember 1989 and it wasn't as good as this season. Not even close. Never before you've had such an even field with cars as reliable as they are these days. You clearly don't like the sport any more and that's fine. Just stop calling it boring, because it clearly isn't.
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      05-28-2012 01:21 AM #22
      Quote Originally Posted by jimbogxp View Post
      Man...sacrifices his health in order to make money. Then he sacrifices money to recuperate his health. And then he is so anxious about the future that he does not enjoy the present; the result being that he does not live in the present or the future; he lives as if he is never going to die, and then dies having never really lived. - Tenzin Gyatso

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      05-28-2012 01:25 AM #23
      all racing is great

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      05-28-2012 01:41 AM #24
      Quote Originally Posted by BTM View Post
      Been to every Indy 500 since 1999. This comment is as ignorant as is the one saying "F1 is boring this season" ... This year's race was the best I can remember - and I'm not delusional thinking it's not better on TV (cuz it is, I watch the broadcast when I get home...) Anyway, back to F1... the move back to mechanical grip (slick tires) and lessening importance on aero in F1 has completely revitalized the sport in my mind. The season thus far has turned out to be one of the more interesting series...6 different winners in 6 races...3 champions... I mean I understand if you don't like the sport, but to call it boring is quite ignorant.
      I should define boring. No passing. Wins are based on leading the starting grid and possibly having a competitor blow a pit stop. Boring. No track action. Boring.

      Australia - Button wins from the 2nd starting position.

      Malaysia - Alonso wins from the 8th starting position. Because Alonso makes spectacular passes in the rain? No, because everyone ahead of him shunts.

      China - Rosberg wins from the pole position.

      Bahrain - Vettel wins from the pole position.

      Spain - Pastor wins from the pole position.

      Monaco - Webber wins from the pole position.

      The only reason Vettel ever lead this race is because he stayed out on rain tires when the rest of the field came in to change.

      If your pole sitter usually wins, then your race is bloody fooking boring. They call it a race for a reason. It is supposed to be a competition in which drivers are expected to have some reasonable opportunity to overtake the poll sitter, and certainly the top 3. This is a rare commodity in F1 and has been for 20 years or more.

      BORING.

      You know your race is BORING when the most exciting thing they show, over and over and over, is a slow motion picture of tire damage and slippage over the curbs.

      F1 is BORING, as defined above.

      Now if your idea of excitement is watching the pole sitter lead a parade around a track punctuated with heart-stopping 3 second tire changes, then yes, F1 is raw breathless excitement like no other.

      Personally, I find a motorized Congo line BORING.
      Last edited by jimbogxp; 05-28-2012 at 01:44 AM.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Woodski View Post
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