A couple of new 3076R videos

[Big_Tom]

if you have those, then you're way low....something isn't right..you should be 440 on pump easy

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this. i thought OP had a gt3076 kit on an otherwise stock block, cts fmic, 3" exhaust. if you have intake mani, cams, 80mm TB, you should be closer to 450whp as Veg said

[Rod Ratio]

if you have those, then you're way low....something isn't right..you should be 440 on pump easy

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Its a mustang dyno guys. He'd likely be around 450wheel on a dynojet

this. i thought OP had a gt3076 kit on an otherwise stock block, cts fmic, 3" exhaust. if you have intake mani, cams, 80mm TB, you should be closer to 450whp as Veg said

[Big_Tom]

Its a mustang dyno guys. He'd likely be around 450wheel on a dynojet

no, bro. i only dyno on mustang dyno's. they dont read 50-60whp lower, only about 10whp maybe 15whp tops at worst. i dyno'd 330whp on the mustang dyno, ur saying if i go find a dyno jet i will put down 380whp/390whp? FLUFF ALL DAY. if thats the case everyone should be on mustang dyno's because dynojets inflate #'s big time. they tell you what you wanna hear and everybody likes that. my car sure feels closer to 330whp than 380whp. and a few of my local vw friends also guestimated ~330whp before i took it to the dyno in february and pulled that number. one of those friends is blu--pearl, he's not on here much anymore. Another was my friend/mechanic who own's and operates his own VW/Audi/BMW repair shop. I know these guys know what they're doing and i know what i'm doing, I'll continue to do what i do on the mustang dyno it should have been a little more than 330, but they only revved the car to ~6650 rpms. I'm going back to the same mustang dyno very soon, i'm still moving to the new place gonna be done this week

[Rod Ratio]

I wouldn't say that dynojet's inflate the numbers; to the contrary id say the mustang's are overly conservative.

Since more dyno runs, and published numbers are done on the dynojet; id say dynojet is accurate, and "the standard" since it gives a number that's easily comparable to most published numbers in the enthusiast world.

Apples to apples so to speak. Then every once in a while one of you mustang dyno guys show up, and throw a 'pear' into the apple basket:p

[Vegeta Gti]

the power is low, bottom low

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[18T_BT]

mustang dynos can be manipulated easier to do whatever you want with the numbers

dynojet have some correction factors, but usually not a major difference

[turbo2.24.1990]

Well I don't believe it to be low. No one here is as familiar with RAI's dyno as they are-and they were impressed. There's an inside joke there about 280whp-its the magic number to get past. Go to their fb page and look at other setups and corresponding numbers they've been dynoing with gtx turbo's to get an idea of what their dyno is like. I don't think you guys that are saying low are considering all the variables-just about 400whp @ 104*F on a sp head with the above mentioned supporting hardware on pump gas at only 27psi...those are some solid numbers. I mean when hardcore audi guys that have already done efr and gtx audi's are saying to me "that thing ran" or on the fb link "the car is beast" I'm pretty sure they're sayin that my setup isn't low by any means on their dyno.

[seth_3515]

Well I don't believe it to be low. No one here is as familiar with RAI's dyno as they are-and they were impressed. There's an inside joke there about 280whp-its the magic number to get past. Go to their fb page and look at other setups and corresponding numbers they've been dynoing with gtx turbo's to get an idea of what their dyno is like. I don't think you guys that are saying low are considering all the variables-just about 400whp @ 104*F on a sp head with the above mentioned supporting hardware on pump gas at only 27psi...those are some solid numbers. I mean when hardcore audi guys that have already done efr and gtx audi's are saying to me "that thing ran" or on the fb link "the car is beast" I'm pretty sure they're sayin that my setup isn't low by any means on their dyno.

whoa bud, they are just trying to inform you there is room for improvement if you look for it.. Their still good numbers, but they could be better if you really want to squeeze at everything and go over everything with a fine tooth comb and perfect the setup.

[turbo2.24.1990]

And I already agreed that I could certainly get better numbers, however the point was neither I or RAI believe those to be low numbers-as a few are saying here-for how hard we were pushing the turbo given all of those variables.

[SGTphatboy]

sounds like you got it running right, how ya like the 3076 and 1000cc injectors?

[formerly silveratljetta]

sounds like you got it running right, how ya like the 3076 and 1000cc injectors?

Runs super smooth. Even faster now on E85 and 27psi

[Vegeta Gti]

i made more on a smaller turbo in the same heat on 92 with a small port head (stock) and 630cc, 30 whp more....so to me, it is low, and i got the same numbers on two dynos over a 24 hour period.

if you are satisfied, then that is all that matters, no need drag it out.

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[Big_Tom]

i made more on a smaller turbo in the same heat on 92 with a small port head (stock) and 630cc, 30 whp more....so to me, it is low, and i got the same numbers on two dynos over a 24 hour period.

if you are satisfied, then that is all that matters, no need drag it out.

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[gdoggmoney]

That's a lot of turbo and varied airflow for a 16x16 VE table or whatever the motronic table is. I know it's way too tiny to be running Alpha N. Hence the low power.

[Matt1023]

Im sorry but, care to elaborate? ^^

[Gulfstream]

Runs super smooth. Even faster now on E85 and 27psi

What's your injector duty on E85 at 27psi on those injectors?

I'm maxed out at 20psi with my EV14 910cc on E85.....

[Sales@R.A.I. Motorsport]

a GT B5S4 hopped on the dyno here. The customer said it was ~500awhp according to his tuner.

He made 420awhp on our Mustang. Made me feel pretty good when I did 415awhp with my little 1.8 on my daily tune on our dyno.

He then went to the local dynojet and got his 500awhp sheet. Obviously with some slight changes and couple tune revisions. He refused to come back here, because our dyno reads too low.

Definitely only a 10-15whp difference.



With more controlled testing by one our customers, he usually sees 35-40awhp difference between our Mustang and the dynojet.

[Gonzo@GonzoTuning]

a GT B5S4 hopped on the dyno here. The customer said it was ~500awhp according to his tuner.

He made 420awhp on our Mustang. Made me feel pretty good when I did 415awhp with my little 1.8 on my daily tune on our dyno.

He then went to the local dynojet and got his 500awhp sheet. Obviously with some slight changes and couple tune revisions. He refused to come back here, because our dyno reads too low.

Definitely only a 10-15whp difference.



With more controlled testing by one our customers, he usually sees 35-40awhp difference between our Mustang and the dynojet.

[Big_Tom]

a GT B5S4 hopped on the dyno here. The customer said it was ~500awhp according to his tuner.

He made 420awhp on our Mustang. Made me feel pretty good when I did 415awhp with my little 1.8 on my daily tune on our dyno.

He then went to the local dynojet and got his 500awhp sheet. Obviously with some slight changes and couple tune revisions. He refused to come back here, because our dyno reads too low.

Definitely only a 10-15whp difference.



With more controlled testing by one our customers, he usually sees 35-40awhp difference between our Mustang and the dynojet.

lol, ok so lmk what 330whp on a mustang dyno tranlates to on a dyno jet. I'll update my sig I'm thinkin about 380fwhp @ 22 psi sounds about right? roll ur eyes @ that

[Sales@R.A.I. Motorsport]

lol I'm sorry, you're right. It's not like I do this for a living or anything.

[Big_Tom]

and i suppose you fellas believe Florida dyno's read higher than anywhere else as well right

[Big_Tom]

lol I'm sorry, you're right. It's not like I do this for a living or anything.

ok so lmk what 330whp on a mustang dyno tranlates to on a dyno jet.

and the answer is?

[Vegeta Gti]

the funny thing about this dyno argument, is that it is just those two particular dyno's. we have mostly dynojets here, one mustang and one dynapack. i made insane power with tons of misfires and inability to rev past5k on the dynapack, solid power on the mustang, and every dynojet has been different each time i go, with the exception of one.that prove snothing, back home in VA/DC i saw them all, mustang, dynojet, dynapack, dynodynamics. lowest was dynodynamics, highest was dynapack. the dynojet and mustang were 2whp apart....

i have seen mustangs read the same as dynojets.

regardless, being strapped down(added load), no real wind speed nor the volume of moving air into the engineay/along the front, no inertia.

dyno's are a judge. i love seeing guys say "hey, i got a 550awhp evo" and i go sweet, let's do 60-140...and i crush them.


dyno - awesome for tuning and baseline

strip,mile,road,etc,etc - proven results.

[Sales@R.A.I. Motorsport]

the funny thing about this dyno argument, is that it is just those two particular dyno's. we have mostly dynojets here, one mustang and one dynapack. i made insane power with tons of misfires and inability to rev past5k on the dynapack, solid power on the mustang, and every dynojet has been different each time i go, with the exception of one.that prove snothing, back home in VA/DC i saw them all, mustang, dynojet, dynapack, dynodynamics. lowest was dynodynamics, highest was dynapack. the dynojet and mustang were 2whp apart....

i have seen mustangs read the same as dynojets.

regardless, being strapped down(added load), no real wind speed nor the volume of moving air into the engineay/along the front, no inertia.

dyno's are a judge. i love seeing guys say "hey, i got a 550awhp evo" and i go sweet, let's do 60-140...and i crush them.


dyno - awesome for tuning and baseline

strip,mile,road,etc,etc - proven results.

Exactly. We just use the dyno as a tuning tool.

[Sales@R.A.I. Motorsport]

and the answer is?

I can't tell you that. Every dyno is different. Depends on how its setup, conditions, ect.

[Vegeta Gti]

there are a TON of variables in running and output of a dyno, some obvious, some you have to ahve run a dyno for awhile to understand.

hence why i know..regardless of what i make on a dyno, i make more on pavement, and power-weight + grip is everything....drag,circuit,road,autox,etc.

[Big_Tom]

I can't tell you that. Every dyno is different. Depends on how its setup, conditions, ect.

oh, you don't know. who woulda seen that coming

[Rod Ratio]

[lorge1989]

oh, you don't know. who woulda seen that coming

God dude, why are you so dense.

Dyno numbers should never be taken as an end all be all number. I believe you said it yourself, or maybe it was Vegeta, dynos are a tool used to tune a car. People love having the numbers for bragging rights and all that jazz but at the end of the day unless you make back to back pulls on the same dyno. That's the only way you can actually compare figures with some meaning. Other than that the numbers are always going to be slightly different. No use trying to account for a 10-20 whp difference.

[Big_Tom]

God dude, why are you so dense.

Dyno numbers should never be taken as an end all be all number. I believe you said it yourself, or maybe it was Vegeta, dynos are a tool used to tune a car. People love having the numbers for bragging rights and all that jazz but at the end of the day unless you make back to back pulls on the same dyno. That's the only way you can actually compare figures with some meaning. Other than that the numbers are always going to be slightly different. No use trying to account for a 10-20 whp difference.

COOL STORY BRO

[Budsdubbin]

You get the facts at the track, given the right driver and enough traction. 1/4 mile is the end all be all.

[Rod Ratio]

You get the facts at the track, given the right driver and enough traction. 1/4 mile is the end all be all.

Trap speed tells the whole story
..

[Budsdubbin]

Trap speed tells the whole story
..

But what I had ment is trap speeds can vary when you have an inconsistant driver or horrible traction(although those variables have more of a direct effect on ET's). I've seen my trap speeds jump higher with a quicker ET on the same track day but that was also a 1/8th mile so I was spinning most of the track.

[speeding-g6O]

i just wanted to drop in and say hi to my hater of the month.

"Heeeeyyyyyyyy" arent you supposed to "show me" something????

[04 GLI Luva]

Lol