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    Thread: Tell Me About the Forgotten V, the N* STS-V

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      06-01-2012 03:19 PM #26
      I always thought they were pretty hot, underrated cars
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      06-01-2012 03:41 PM #27
      Quote Originally Posted by compy222 View Post
      What's wrong with that interior?
      I had the exact same thought. I guess sitting in an S2000 for extended periods of time will do that to you.
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      06-01-2012 04:09 PM #28
      Quote Originally Posted by PassSedanGLX View Post
      The thing that gets me about the STS in general is that it really wasn't any bigger inside than the CTS for real-world stuff. It was fatter and wider and longer and... still pretty cramped inside.
      I agree. We got one as a rental when our Regal was being serviced and with a rear-facing baby seat, it was actually MORE cramped than our Regal. Also, the HK audio is much better in the Regal than the Bose in the STS.

      With that said, I would have to drive a STS-V before deciding if it was right for me because I was kind of unimpressed with the STS rental. I am sure the extra ~150HP would help that though
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      06-01-2012 04:18 PM #29
      i had no idea these existed. Now i want one.
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      06-01-2012 04:23 PM #30
      Quote Originally Posted by rice is burning View Post
      I had the exact same thought. I guess sitting in an S2000 for extended periods of time will do that to you.
      just because its spartan doesn't mean its bad!
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      06-01-2012 04:29 PM #31
      Quote Originally Posted by gls:maverick View Post
      Cool car but its too huge to have a lot of fun with except in a straight line on the highway.
      This is basically how I feel about the current CTS-V, so I imagine the STS-V is even worse.

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      06-01-2012 04:32 PM #32
      Quote Originally Posted by MontoyaF1 View Post
      I sat in one years ago at the Detroit Auto Show and thought the inside was really nice--much better than the first gen CTS-V.
      Interior is a little 'old man'... but it's not bad at all. I remember being impressed with the STS when it first came out. Interior included. The materials and finishes were good for the time. Like the CTS of the same time they made an expensive interior look cheap in certain area's, but overall it was a very nice car.

      I knew of the STS-V, but forgot about it. IIRC it was pretty damn close to the class heavies, like the M5, E63 AMG, and RS6 but lost out in handling/driving feel, interior (tho nice... not as nice), and it might have been outgunned IIRC.

      Probably a smoking deal used, and a great car overall. Or it might all fall apart and turn into a pile of smoke.

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      06-01-2012 04:57 PM #33
      Quote Originally Posted by Ross1013 View Post
      This is basically how I feel about the current CTS-V, so I imagine the STS-V is even worse.
      Are you implying the CTS-V doesn't handle well

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      06-01-2012 05:57 PM #34
      Quote Originally Posted by windycityvdub View Post
      No. They don't even make the STS anymore, and you'd have to put up with this:


      I'd imagine a Taurus SHO would be better in every way.

      im going to have to object, that is a fantastic interior, and id love a STS-V over a taurus SHO anyday. tiny windows are tiny.
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      06-01-2012 06:09 PM #35
      A lot of you little entitled nancy boys need some perspective if you think think the STS has a 'horrible' interior.

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      06-01-2012 06:49 PM #36
      Quote Originally Posted by A.Wilder View Post
      i had no idea these existed. Now i want one.
      I'm with you
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      06-01-2012 07:16 PM #37
      Can anyone tell me more about the N*?

      I heard from someone that it is one of GM's most advanced engines ever.
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      06-01-2012 08:31 PM #38
      Quote Originally Posted by windycityvdub View Post
      I'd imagine a Taurus SHO would be better in every way.
      The STS-V is rear-wheel drive. So, it drives differently from the AWD Taurus SHO.

      The CTS/STS' RWD platform was probably designed to be a bit sportier than the Taurus' D3 platform.

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      06-02-2012 01:22 AM #39
      Quote Originally Posted by Ross1013 View Post
      This is basically how I feel about the current CTS-V, so I imagine the STS-V is even worse.
      Are...are....are you retarded?
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      06-02-2012 01:26 AM #40
      Quote Originally Posted by windycityvdub View Post
      No. They don't even make the STS anymore, and you'd have to put up with this:


      I'd imagine a Taurus SHO would be better in every way.
      Right...an overpriced Ford that's built on the upper limits of it's potential is better than a cheaper 400+ hp RWD luxury car with tons of potential left...
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      06-02-2012 05:37 AM #41
      Quote Originally Posted by deftonesfan867 View Post
      Right...an overpriced Ford that's built on the upper limits of it's potential is better than a cheaper 400+ hp RWD luxury car with tons of potential left...
      Que? An AWD Ford that with a chip can run pretty damn quick. Hell stock is pretty damn quick.

      There is a V five miles away 46K miles with a 26K tag.
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      06-02-2012 07:06 AM #42


      Supercharging The Northstar
      By Frank Markus

      Behold Cadillac's first production supercharged engine. Its official SAE-certified horsepower rating of 469 is the highest for any factory Cadillac, including all the jumbo-block SAE-gross-rated behemoths of the 1960s and early 1970s. Making power is all about getting air into cylinders. This can be done the Corvette Z06 way, using great big lungs, or by forcing air in with a blower. Cadillac reckoned the latter approach had a better chance of delivering the refinement and smooth idle demanded of a $77,090 car.
      Air enters through an 80mm throttle body, flows around back of the engine and into the valley, where it's sucked up into the largest production Roots blower going. Spinning at 2.1 times crank speed, the air is pressurized to 12 psi before flowing up through a Laminova intercooler (water runs through tubes lined with closely spaced fins). The cooling fins drop pressure to 10 psi and quell the blower pulses. Air then U-turns and flows straight down into the intake valves to meet its octane-fueled destiny. Intake and exhaust valve timing are variable. Spent exhaust gases exit via extrude-honed ports, through cast manifolds and out through oversize catalysts and twin 2.5-inch sewer pipes.
      The 469 horses arrive at 6400 rpm, but at least 395 of the 439 peak pound-feet of torque are available between 2200 and 6000 rpm. Fuel economy trails the naturally aspirated STS by three mpg city, six highway. And the idle quality is better, thanks to the added rotational inertia. There's way more to this Northstar than just a bolt-on blower, though.

      1. The aluminum block is sand cast instead of die cast, necessitating 2mm smaller bore for better fatigue life.
      2. Block and head castings undergo special T7 heat treatment and stabilization for strength.
      3. Intake valve seats are copper infiltrated for better heat dissipation and wear.
      4. Head gaskets reinforced to withstand 9:1 compression plus 10 psi boost.
      5. Bigger oil jets cool the pistons with three gallons of oil per minute.
      6. Oil pump, filter are higher capacity.
      7. Two mufflers quiet intake roar upstream of supercharger.
      8. Starter lives below blower in the valley for improved life (no road splash).
      9. Low-restriction domino-shaped mass-airflow sensor replaces screen type


      Read more: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...#ixzz1wdHF2udF
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      06-02-2012 09:25 AM #43
      Quote Originally Posted by compy222 View Post
      a few mods and they sound EVIL:

      Never liked the sound of a roots style blower

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      06-02-2012 11:04 AM #44
      Quote Originally Posted by deftonesfan867 View Post
      Are...are....are you retarded?
      Well, what did you think of the CTS-V when you drove it?

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      06-02-2012 11:34 AM #45
      Quote Originally Posted by TangoRed View Post


      I'd agree though. A used Taurus SHO or 300C might be worth a look.
      Wait wait wait.....you're complaining about the STS interior, but you recommend a 300C? WTF?

      Assuming we're talking same vintage, WTF?

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      06-02-2012 11:38 AM #46
      A few comparisons to the Taurus SHO.
      The SHO is a very large and luxurious car and with 355 HP and those commercials of it being a tail happy bruiser on the track in spite of being AWD it's a fair comparison.
      Sort of, the Lincoln MKS is a bit more modern then the now discontinued STS (still available in China also as a SLS) as it has received a recent update.

      However, the Cadillac is much more powerful at 469 HP and it's on a RWD platform then the MKS Ecoboost which is on a FWD/AWD platform.








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      06-02-2012 12:19 PM #47
      Big, heavy, and fast. Where do I sign up?! The question is...reliable? And if so...have they depreciated to next to nothing quickly, like most Cadis?

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      06-02-2012 01:40 PM #48
      Quote Originally Posted by StormChaser View Post
      Big, heavy, and fast. Where do I sign up?! The question is...reliable? And if so...have they depreciated to next to nothing quickly, like most Cadis?
      STS has depreciated greatly, not as much as the DTS though of course.
      The V is much more rare and the asking prices are higher.
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      06-02-2012 03:15 PM #49
      I see STS-Vs on the road pretty often in SoCal.

      About every third STS I see is a STS-V.

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      06-02-2012 05:19 PM #50
      Quote Originally Posted by Nitzer View Post
      STS has depreciated greatly, not as much as the DTS though of course.
      The V is much more rare and the asking prices are higher.
      And actually, the newer Cadillacs (especially the newer CTS') are holding their value real well. I was surprised to see how much used 09+ CTS 3.6DI's were still going for.

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