What parts do I need to eliminate AC and PS?

[Danger1523]

This could belong in another forum(apologies), I'll redirect it if necessary, but I removed my PS pump and my AC compressor and just need a bracket. It looks like there isn't a way to have the water pump and the ac and crank on one belt, any help would be greatly appreciated!

[WaterWheels]

I don't follow. You say up front ". . . to eliminate AC and PS?" but at the end talk about having the crank, alternator and A/C on the same belt? If you removed the A/C and power steering then just find a car in the junk yards that don't have either and grab the parts. Pullies and alternator mount I believe is all you will require plus the correct size belt.

[Danger1523]

I don't follow. You say up front ". . . to eliminate AC and PS?" but at the end talk about having the crank, alternator and A/C on the same belt? If you removed the A/C and power steering then just find a car in the junk yards that don't have either and grab the parts. Pullies and alternator mount I believe is all you will require plus the correct size belt.

I was just saying that I know i can't slap the alternator back on and put a belt to the crank, water pump and alternator. I was just trying to see what the general DIY was. And I didn't know what Mk2s would have nonac and non ps

[Glegor]

I don't follow. You say up front ". . . to eliminate AC and PS?" but at the end talk about having the crank, alternator and A/C on the same belt? If you removed the A/C and power steering then just find a car in the junk yards that don't have either and grab the parts. Pullies and alternator mount I believe is all you will require plus the correct size belt.

grab the crank and water pump pulleys, as well as the alternator bracket. the alternator BRACKET is different.. not the alternator or pulley.. they are all the same..

look for a fox, they OFTEN had no power steering or a/c

my GTI came factory without a/c or p/s, and the pulleys are the part that make it special. the part numbers are different, as well as the offset of the pulleys.

you can mess around trying to get this and that to work, and make it ghetto, or you can just get all the right parts off a car that came factory without.

also, if you delete power steering, then also do a manual rack swap. a power rack without power hooked up is HARD AS HELL to turn.. like obnoxious hard.

[Danger1523]

grab the crank and water pump pulleys, as well as the alternator bracket. the alternator BRACKET is different.. not the alternator or pulley.. they are all the same..

look for a fox, they OFTEN had no power steering or a/c

my GTI came factory without a/c or p/s, and the pulleys are the part that make it special. the part numbers are different, as well as the offset of the pulleys.

you can mess around trying to get this and that to work, and make it ghetto, or you can just get all the right parts off a car that came factory without.

also, if you delete power steering, then also do a manual rack swap. a power rack without power hooked up is HARD AS HELL to turn.. like obnoxious hard.

I was going to loop mine for the time being, obviously not a fix, but until I pick up a manual rack. Can I just order the pulleys from wherever? It'll obviously be more expensive, but possibly easier. The crank and the water pump pulleys all bolt up to their respective part then? I suppose all 1.8s are the same for the most part

[Glegor]

I was going to loop mine for the time being, obviously not a fix, but until I pick up a manual rack. Can I just order the pulleys from wherever? It'll obviously be more expensive, but possibly easier. The crank and the water pump pulleys all bolt up to their respective part then? I suppose all 1.8s are the same for the most part

i imagine the non-a/c pullies are LONG NLA... thats why i told you to check foxes in the wrecking yards, because they are still very common.. i run across non-a/c pulleys every time im at the yards.. and yes, all 1.8L 8v engines are all basically identical. dont try and use 16v pulleys tho, they wont work, they are 5mm less offset than the 8v pulleys..

and if you loop your power rack, you will have pop-eye arms in no time, its HARD AS HELL to drive a power rack as manual.. just dont drive in parking lots, under 5mph, or get in traffic jams, and the power rack as manual will be FINE, but if you actually want to enjoy driving the car, either hook up the power steering, or install a manual rack setup. you will HATE the power rack ran as manual..

its a little over 4 turns, lock to lock, on the manual rack.

its a little over 3 turns, lock to lock, on the power rack.

so, it takes CONSIDERABLY more effort to work the power rack.

if you feel the need to be lazy, and try to just buy new pulleys, then call the stealership, thats the only place that would have them. parts stores DO NOT carry pulleys for VW cars.. and non-a/c pulleys were quite rare to begin with. i imagine IF THEY STILL MAKE THEM, that they are going to be close to $100 for the 2 pulleys. and you still need an alternator bracket to go with them.

dont be lazy. just go look in wrecking yards. look for foxes, rabbits, golfs, jettas.. basically, look under the hood of every 88-older VW you can find. you will come across a set of pulleys eventually. over half of all foxes ive seen, have no p/s or a/c.. they are a easy source for pulleys. early(ish) rabbits were also common to have neither.. but i like the pulley setup off the fox/mk2 jetta/golf better myself personally..

[Danger1523]

i imagine the non-a/c pullies are LONG NLA... thats why i told you to check foxes in the wrecking yards, because they are still very common.. i run across non-a/c pulleys every time im at the yards.. and yes, all 1.8L 8v engines are all basically identical. dont try and use 16v pulleys tho, they wont work, they are 5mm less offset than the 8v pulleys..

and if you loop your power rack, you will have pop-eye arms in no time, its HARD AS HELL to drive a power rack as manual.. just dont drive in parking lots, under 5mph, or get in traffic jams, and the power rack as manual will be FINE, but if you actually want to enjoy driving the car, either hook up the power steering, or install a manual rack setup. you will HATE the power rack ran as manual..

its a little over 4 turns, lock to lock, on the manual rack.

its a little over 3 turns, lock to lock, on the power rack.

so, it takes CONSIDERABLY more effort to work the power rack.

if you feel the need to be lazy, and try to just buy new pulleys, then call the stealership, thats the only place that would have them. parts stores DO NOT carry pulleys for VW cars.. and non-a/c pulleys were quite rare to begin with. i imagine IF THEY STILL MAKE THEM, that they are going to be close to $100 for the 2 pulleys. and you still need an alternator bracket to go with them.

dont be lazy. just go look in wrecking yards. look for foxes, rabbits, golfs, jettas.. basically, look under the hood of every 88-older VW you can find. you will come across a set of pulleys eventually. over half of all foxes ive seen, have no p/s or a/c.. they are a easy source for pulleys. early(ish) rabbits were also common to have neither.. but i like the pulley setup off the fox/mk2 jetta/golf better myself personally..

I will begin the search this week while I'm out of work! Thanks

[antichristonwheels]

I used an ABA water pump pulley and run a single belt.

[Danger1523]

I found a site that sells a different alt pulley, I'm probably just going to shell out the 60 bucks and get a nice shiny one. One step closer

[Jesse-B]

I got all the parts from a dude on here for 40 bucks shipped to my door.

[Jesse-B]

You don't need a different alt. pulley..