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      05-31-2012 05:46 PM #76
      Quote Originally Posted by hipster. View Post
      Meets here are full of bros an dubbers, so I'll pass on that.
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      05-31-2012 05:51 PM #77
      Quote Originally Posted by bubbagti View Post
      Get a TTRS
      Came here for this. Leaving satisfied.
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    3. 05-31-2012 05:52 PM #78
      if after the sale, and you come off the curb, and the axle breaks or you get a flat tire, its all you for liability

      so if you screw up the alignment a block away from a pothole or whatever, that would cause the warped inner tire wear, not the dealerships fault

      who validates a manufacturer's CPO cars ? the manufacturers ....

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      05-31-2012 05:54 PM #79
      Quote Originally Posted by TM87 View Post
      Cliff notes:
      - You drove a car for 6months, dropped it on H&R coils, then decided you want new tires, and trying to get the cost out of CPO

      How can we even know you didnt destroyed tires after you did aftermarket suspension on the car??
      I drove the car like a normal person. I wanted to change the suspension. Upon changing the suspension I realized all these problems. If I didn't one day the inner tire would have blown out and I would have crashed the car.

      Quote Originally Posted by Cort View Post
      Am I the only one seeing this?

      1. He installed coilovers.

      2. Worn tire patch on inside of tire which is WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU LOWER AN R32 past an 1.5" without adjustable endlinks on the rear suspension. I had the same problem in less than 8k miles on my s3 which has the same suspension.

      3. I'm willing to bank he didn't get an allignment after the coils too.

      http://gruvenparts.com/website/cart/...product_id=390

      4. Aftermarket coilover suspension parts voids suspension warranty.
      Wrong I am not you. I install things properly. The damage to the tires were done with the stock suspension not the aftermarket.

      I've only had the aftermarket on since 5/26/12. We had a holiday weekend in America so everything was closed on Monday. Alignment was done immediatly upon opening of business the very next day.
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      05-31-2012 05:58 PM #80
      Quote Originally Posted by Cort View Post
      Am I the only one seeing this?

      1. He installed coilovers.

      2. Worn tire patch on inside of tire which is WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU LOWER AN R32 past an 1.5" without adjustable endlinks on the rear suspension. I had the same problem in less than 8k miles on my s3 which has the same suspension.

      3. I'm willing to bank he didn't get an allignment after the coils too.

      http://gruvenparts.com/website/cart/...product_id=390

      4. Aftermarket coilover suspension parts voids suspension warranty.
      I don't own a 2004 MK4 R32 you idiot.

      This product fits Audi TT (2001-2006), Audi A3/S3, VW R32 (2004), VW Golf 4motion and 4motion Variant, VW Bora 4motion and 4motion Variant and replaces OEM linkage P/N 1J0505466B.
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      05-31-2012 06:07 PM #81
      Quote Originally Posted by HarryHood View Post

      CPO is a scam. They "inspect" these cars by glancing over stuff. They can then charge you an extra $1-2k on price in exchange for the extended warranty.
      This was my experience with buying a CPO A4 back in 2003. I needed new brakes a few thousand miles afterwards, in addition to several other parts (and the CEL coming on the day I bought it). When I pointed out that the literature said brakes would be minimum of 50%, they made up some excuse. I went to another dealership for a second opinion and they said my brakes were the original ones on the car (50k miles) --- they told me a lot of times dealerships skip the inspection, fill out the paperwork with Audi, send them the money for the warranty and sell the car as is.

      Went back to the original dealer and demanded all of the CPO paperwork. They said I couldn't have it. I pointed out where it said it was to be included with the sale. They said to come back the next day and they would "find" it. They produced a CPO report that was clearly doctored after the fact (dates weren't consistent, options not on my car were said to be in good condition, the wrong size wheels were listed, etc, etc). Brought it to the sales manager and the GM --- they offered to take it on trade at $12k (I paid $17.5k three days before) and offered me a rape-tastic deal on a new GTi. I said no thanks, never went back there, and faxed everything to VWoA.

      VWoA said any resolution would be between them and the dealership, which didn't do anything for me. I sold the car within the year for a fair price and bought a Honda. The CPO warranty was great to have (I wouldn't want to own a car that new without one), but if I ever buy a CPO car again, I'll be treating it like any used car --- taking it to an independent mechanic for a full inspection, etc.
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      05-31-2012 06:08 PM #82
      Quote Originally Posted by whitekryptonite View Post
      I don't own a 2004 MK4 R32 you idiot.
      Oh dag yo. Didn't see that. My bad.

      I just saw R32. But I hope you get herpes, and you are butt banged by a group of rabid baboons you buffoon.

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      05-31-2012 06:11 PM #83
      Quote Originally Posted by Cort View Post
      Oh dag yo. Didn't see that. My bad.

      I just saw R32. But I hope you get herpes, and you are butt banged by a group of rabid baboons you buffoon.
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      Ponto, you need to be banned already. This **** just aint fair.

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      05-31-2012 06:18 PM #84
      pads/rotors shouldnt be covered under warranty, imo.

      its not the companies fault if you drive like a hammerhead and wear through them in 10k miles.

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      05-31-2012 06:21 PM #85
      OP, seriously, there isn't much to be done here. I say you buy a new set of tires and call it a day. Save yourself the headache and say fück that dealership.
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      Ponto, you need to be banned already. This **** just aint fair.

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      05-31-2012 06:29 PM #86
      Quote Originally Posted by whitekryptonite View Post
      If I didn't one day the inner tire would have blown out and I would have crashed the car.
      Aaaand scene. Seriously, a blown tire doesn't equal death if you know how to drive. Any old lady in a Golf can let off of the gas and coast a bit, no?
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      05-31-2012 06:44 PM #87
      Quote Originally Posted by Accidental L8 apex View Post
      Aaaand scene. Seriously, a blown tire doesn't equal death if you know how to drive. Any old lady in a Golf can let off of the gas and coast a bit, no?
      I thought you were supposed to give it more gas to correct for the failed tire, then ease off?

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      05-31-2012 07:18 PM #88
      Quote Originally Posted by mr lee View Post
      um... I'm talking about Haldex fluid. it's $100.
      Cool, then why is the OP ****ting his pants about a $100 thing of fluid?

      https://wiki.bentleypublishers.com/d...bbit,+GTI,+R32

      ^ btw it isn't due at 50k.

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      05-31-2012 08:00 PM #89
      Quote Originally Posted by horribleR View Post
      Tires aren't Suspension, Mister.



      In the warranty arena, this is called excessive progressive damage. Even if the suspension were deemed faulty, there is probably a clause that puts this well outside of the damage limits. Sorry, but I'd be totally blown away if they even gave you a coupon for a free oil change.

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    15. 05-31-2012 08:14 PM #90
      Quote Originally Posted by Cort View Post
      Am I the only one seeing this?

      1. He installed coilovers.

      2. Worn tire patch on inside of tire which is WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU LOWER AN R32 past an 1.5" without adjustable endlinks on the rear suspension. I had the same problem in less than 8k miles on my s3 which has the same suspension.

      3. I'm willing to bank he didn't get an allignment after the coils too.

      http://gruvenparts.com/website/cart/...product_id=390

      4. Aftermarket coilover suspension parts voids suspension warranty.
      1.S3's get flat spots from drunken toolbags that ruin GTGs and events for everyone.

      2. Being such a toolbag revokes your rights to be treated fairly on this forum.

      3. I'm willing to bank you got aligned in jail.

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      05-31-2012 08:18 PM #91
      Quote Originally Posted by serge03 View Post
      1.S3's get flat spots from drunken toolbags that ruin GTGs and events for everyone.

      2. Being such a toolbag revokes your rights to be treated fairly on this forum.

      3. I'm willing to bank you got aligned in jail.
      Someone's living in the past
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      Ponto, you need to be banned already. This **** just aint fair.

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      05-31-2012 08:24 PM #92
      I've owned one CPO VW and compared to all but one other VW I've owned, it was a kind of a piece. The warranty did save me a few bucks but not much or enough to be worth the added cost. I found out that things like spark plugs and air filters were never changed when the paperwork I had from the dealer showed that they should have been. Part of the deal for buying the car was that certain things like the 40k service had been performed and I got it in writing. Later on down the road I was actually able to prove the parts had not been changed by utilizing manufacturer date codes. That still got me no where but whatever.

      I don't know if I would buy another CPO VW. I've had better luck with non CPO cars. Obviously this varies with every car but I didn't get my money's worth out of the warranty and I didn't like how the dealer somewhat misrepresented the condition of the vehicle at time of purchase. Also, all the expensive repairs for my car occurred just after the warranty was up. Probably a coincidence. You're better off buying a used car from an owner who hands you a file folder full of receipts and records.
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      05-31-2012 08:29 PM #93
      Quote Originally Posted by djsheijkdfj View Post
      Just went and looked. The idiot is trading the car in for a new Golf R.

      Next time I need help flushing a couple grand down the toilet, I know who to call.
      Can somebody post a link to the original gateway thread?

      I feel so lost on this topic.

      Oh- and OP... CPO just means Crazy Price for Owner for used car with extended warranty.....
      IOW, the "1,000,000 point inspection" is usually a joke.
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      05-31-2012 08:40 PM #94
      Quote Originally Posted by BRealistic View Post
      Can somebody post a link to the original gateway thread?

      I feel so lost on this topic.

      Oh- and OP... CPO just means Crazy Price for Owner for used car with extended warranty.....
      IOW, the "1,000,000 point inspection" is usually a joke.
      http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea...-R-Screwdriver


      Looks like he's getting that new R he wanted.

      Quote Originally Posted by Gateway1 View Post
      Final update:

      The General Manager is in the process of placing an order for a new '13 Golf R.

      I really appreciate the GM going above and beyond to make things right. Also, a big to VWoA for all their help and new car voucher towards the R. Now I can move forward with my R build.

      Also, I would like to say thank you to everyone here for your support.

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      05-31-2012 08:48 PM #95
      Quote Originally Posted by 99.5 View Post
      http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea...-R-Screwdriver


      Looks like he's getting that new R he wanted.
      And he's paying for it. Far cry drom it being free, like the jackass was trying to lead people to believe.

      What a toolbag.

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      05-31-2012 08:48 PM #96
      Originally Posted by hipster.
      Asked a dozen posts ago. VWoA told him to STFU, and that it was the dealer issue.
      Originally posted by 99.5
      Not quite. Here's an update from his thread.
      Originally Posted by Gateway1
      Final update:

      The General Manager is in the process of placing an order for a new '13 Golf R.

      I really appreciate the GM going above and beyond to make things right. Also, a big to VWoA for all their help and new car voucher towards the R. Now I can move forward with my R build.

      Also, I would like to say thank you to everyone here for your support.
      So how does him losing thousands on a trade-in equal him getting what he wants by getting "made right" by VW due to his tirade and sense of entitlement? And VWOA did basically tell him to shove it and the dealer is the one handling it. Of course, would be luxury-GT owners/drivers would see things completely different than reality played out.
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      05-31-2012 08:49 PM #97
      as someone who knows the OP here is my perspective...

      you bought the car with 4x,xxx miles (i dont feel like getting the exact number), 9000 miles later you find out that the suspension is shot when installed new coilovers. almost 50,000 miles on the stock suspension actually isnt that bad for an R32, some have had theres crap out earlier. Just the nature of the beast.

      Somewhere in here you posted that you drive normally...you drive like a mad man 95% of the time. Hard acceleration, braking, and turning will only speed up wear on your tires and suspension.

      I'm sure you've hit some massive pot holes, because we live in the same town so I know what the roads are like. And i'm sure at least one of the was big enough to throw an alignment out of spec, thus causing your tire wear.

      You are trying to get a warranty on two different wear parts..not going to happen. Suspension and tires get old and tired and wear, that's just how it goes. Also, bringing the car in on the aftermarket suspension claiming that the stock suspension is what ruined your tires is not going to help. Also, a blown strut will not cause your tires to get camber wear. The rebound tendencies of shocks play little to no effect of camber

      does it suck that your tires are now shot? Absolutely. Are you going to have to buy new tires out of pocket? Most likely. Coming from someone who also had to buy 4 new tires due to unfortunately circumstances, that's just the way it goes. This is a classic case of the saying "you have to pay to play." I'm sure you can find some really good condition used tires in the classifieds since 225/40/18 is a very popular size.
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    23. 05-31-2012 09:16 PM #98
      vw uses one quality grade above chinese parts. dont be surprised if you have to replace x y and z after 10k miles
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    24. 05-31-2012 09:18 PM #99
      Quote Originally Posted by DrFrisker View Post
      vw uses one quality grade above chinese parts. dont be surprised if you have to replace x y and z after 10k miles

      Those X bearings and Y fuel pumps and Z control arm bushings are killer, brah.

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      05-31-2012 09:29 PM #100
      Thanks.

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