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    Thread: 2013 GT500 gains 50whp and 50wtq with just a tune.

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      06-01-2012 05:41 PM #1
      Cool, can't wait to see what it does with some pulley action as well

      stock 584 rwhp / 605 rwtq
      after the tune 633.8 rwhp /655 rwtq

      It was done on a mustang dyno, which explains the lower 'before' hp compared to other tests, which have all been done on dynojet. The important thing here is the delta, not the final number.


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      ^^ This; too much torqs will be dead.
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      06-01-2012 05:48 PM #5
      all of a sudden b/c shelby is dead this has become TCL resident unicorn.



      what a shock, 50hp with a tune.
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      06-01-2012 05:48 PM #6
      Quote Originally Posted by Old Windy View Post
      ^^ This; too much torqs will dead.
      FTFY

      Now we know where all the missing BRZ/FRS torks went

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      06-01-2012 05:49 PM #7
      Quote Originally Posted by dieselraver View Post
      all of a sudden b/c shelby is dead this has become TCL resident unicorn.



      what a shock, 50hp with a tune.
      50 wheel horse power from a tune is pretty awesome!

      I see +550 torques from 2000rpm all the way to 5500rpm
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      06-01-2012 05:50 PM #8
      Quote Originally Posted by dieselraver View Post
      all of a sudden b/c shelby is dead this has become TCL resident unicorn.



      what a shock, 50hp with a tune.
      It is a lot considering you figure a highly tuned factory motor like this one would most likely have optimized software map from the factory for the boost pressure it's running, which is controlled by the pulley.

      It's not like flashing a turbo car which actually changes the boost to make power, this is a good amount of power gain with no pressure change.

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      06-01-2012 05:50 PM #9
      Quote Originally Posted by dieselraver View Post
      all of a sudden b/c shelby is dead this has become TCL resident unicorn.



      what a shock, 50hp with a tune.
      50whp from just a tune on a car that the ZL1 crowd pinned as "Peaked out from the factory" is pretty impressive.

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      06-01-2012 05:53 PM #10
      Quote Originally Posted by djsheijkdfj View Post
      50whp from just a tune on a car that the ZL1 crowd pinned as "Peaked out from the factory" is pretty impressive.
      Quote Originally Posted by Lieutenant Dan View Post
      It is a lot considering you figure a highly tuned factory motor like this one would most likely have optimized software map from the factory for the boost pressure it's running, which is controlled by the pulley.

      It's not like flashing a turbo car which actually changes the boost to make power, this is a good amount of power gain with no pressure change.

      i'd have to contest. just because the car is tuned from the factory, doesn't mean its pushed to its limits. keep in mind it is a production car and warrantied by Ford/Shelby. if the engine blows thats a repair that they have to pay for. obviously they will underboost it much like the GTI, Evo, pretty much any high performance car direct from the factory. with numbers like 500HP another 50HP is what, 10%? not much of a gain if you ask me
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      06-01-2012 05:53 PM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by dieselraver View Post
      all of a sudden b/c shelby is dead this has become TCL resident unicorn.



      what a shock, 50hp with a tune.
      50Hp from a tune is amazing dude.

      Considering that "other" cars require headers, CAI, CHIP, etc etc etc to get 50 extra ponies.

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      06-01-2012 05:54 PM #12
      Who cracked that ECU code already?

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      06-01-2012 05:55 PM #13
      ECU is likely the same as it has been. Jon Lund (****ing douche that apparently doesn't want my money) is the one doing the tuning.

    14. 06-01-2012 05:56 PM #14
      This car tuned w/ smaller pulley kit, should be 700+ hp

      Patiently waiting to drive one!

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      06-01-2012 05:59 PM #15
      new '500s are beasts. plain and simple.

      Evolution has one running deep 10s @ 140mph with bolt ons, race gas, slicks. 140 trap is moving in a hurry, im jelly
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      06-01-2012 05:59 PM #16
      Quote Originally Posted by djsheijkdfj View Post
      ECU is likely the same as it has been. Jon Lund (****ing douche that apparently doesn't want my money) is the one doing the tuning.
      Generally each model year of Ford has at least one new ECU code.

      The hardware doesn't change much, but the firmware and parameters do.

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      06-01-2012 06:00 PM #17
      Quote Originally Posted by dieselraver View Post
      i'd have to contest. just because the car is tuned from the factory, doesn't mean its pushed to its limits. keep in mind it is a production car and warrantied by Ford/Shelby. if the engine blows thats a repair that they have to pay for. obviously they will underboost it much like the GTI, Evo, pretty much any high performance car direct from the factory. with numbers like 500HP another 50HP is what, 10%? not much of a gain if you ask me
      I mean you're right, it might have more in it at the same pressure being it's such a big motor with a blower on top, but i'm willing to guess that they got that power out of it just from tweaking maybe fueling but most likely just ignition timing. I'm sure as they come out the flashes will become more aggressive as they get further into the ECU. Does the 5.8 have variable valve timing? It'll be interesting when they play with that as well.

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      06-01-2012 06:02 PM #18
      Quote Originally Posted by slowhatch View Post
      new '500s are beasts. plain and simple.

      Evolution has one running deep 10s @ 140mph with bolt ons, race gas, slicks. 140 trap is moving in a hurry, im jelly
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      06-01-2012 06:11 PM #19
      Quote Originally Posted by Lieutenant Dan View Post
      It is a lot considering you figure a highly tuned factory motor like this one would most likely have optimized software map from the factory for the boost pressure it's running, which is controlled by the pulley.

      It's not like flashing a turbo car which actually changes the boost to make power, this is a good amount of power gain with no pressure change.
      The TVS blowers have an electronic bypass valve which dumps boost under the stock tune. This allows headroom for the factory car to maintain power under tough conditions - elevation, high heat, etc.

      Tunes can close this valve meaning it actually can increase the boost without changing the pulley ratio.

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      06-01-2012 06:17 PM #20
      Quote Originally Posted by Shomegrown View Post

      Tunes can close this valve meaning it actually can increase the boost without changing the pulley ratio.
      So tune closing valve + pulleys = dead?
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      06-01-2012 06:17 PM #21
      Quote Originally Posted by GTE77 View Post
      50Hp from a tune is amazing dude.

      Considering that "other" cars require headers, CAI, CHIP, etc etc etc to get 50 extra ponies.
      no not really.

      much much lower HP cars can get 50hp from a tune.
      why shouldnt a 650hp engine be expected to get a little more from a tune?
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      06-01-2012 06:17 PM #22
      Quote Originally Posted by slowhatch View Post
      new '500s are beasts. plain and simple.

      Evolution has one running deep 10s @ 140mph with bolt ons, race gas, slicks. 140 trap is moving in a hurry, im jelly
      Hmmm, they claim "BOOST ONLY!" which is suspicious to me. I'd wager that there is a twin screw on that car. 140+ trap is ~900rwhp, well out of the TVS's range. But who knows, I could be wrong.

    23. 06-01-2012 06:19 PM #23
      Quote Originally Posted by slowhatch View Post
      Evolution has one running deep 10s @ 140mph with bolt ons, race gas, slicks.

      Evolution has there new GB 2013 GT500 at Atco!

      Slicks/Skinnes and Tune Tuned by Jon Lund of Lund Racing

      Second Pass - 10.02@141MPH


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      06-01-2012 06:21 PM #24
      Quote Originally Posted by GTE77 View Post
      50Hp from a tune is amazing dude.

      Considering that "other" cars require headers, CAI, CHIP, etc etc etc to get 50 extra ponies.
      Do "other" cars start out with 500HP+?

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      06-01-2012 06:21 PM #25
      Quote Originally Posted by RQ1 View Post
      Second Pass - 10.02@141MPH
      Any videos?

      141 should be good for about 9.70's with traction. I guess it is a heavy car though.
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