Digest it as you like, but power is the work performed. The fact that you have to wait for it isn't necessarily a problem; it's better than having it all at once when you're on a track since wheelspin isn't a desired by-product of low-end torque. Torque is simply the twisting the engine generated. More twist, more in-your-seat. Conclusively, based solely on this, the GTI is more fun to drive on public roads IF you drive it like a normal car and accelerate from red lights, on ramps, what have you, even corners as it handles very well for an FF. The BRZ on the other hand may not be as fun to drive if being driven normally. You would have to take advantage of its handling characteristics; something a little hard to do on the streets. Of course, it would destroy a GTI hands down on the track. I have no doubt about that.
That's my opinion. Torque makes me smile. Horsepower gives me tickets. But what it really comes down to is this:
What makes you smile about a car?
...and would you bloody stop calling people retards because their opinion differs?!?! You're f*cking ridiculous and not credible when you insult others. But it's ok though, I'm a p*ssy anyway for not wanting to downshift for torque... ()
I've driven the GTI for six years. It gets boring after a while...the power delivery is too smooth for a car with sporting intentions. The power delivery of the BRZ makes me smile, however.
Bottom line; not everyone likes like same things you do. (I think I learned this while my age was expressed by a single digit...)
Just for the record; I think the BRZ/FR-S is an amazing car. I actually signed up for one. However, that was before I test-drove a mk5 GTI and fell in love with Volks again. (and kind of remembered what I love in a car) Besides, the FR-S was more than what I was willing to pay for. I've never test driven one either.
I wanted a black FR-S and to make it look just like the one that attended a C&C meet a few months ago.
Cool. I'm gonna eventually go the BRZ route - I really like WRB, but I think it'll be too flashy for me as a daily driver. This other blue may be the ticket.
I stopped by the dealer tonight on my way home, and they have a solid date on the arrival finally. Looks like it will hit the shores on 7/2 and then be here about 10 days after that.
They were shipping a Hot Lava 6 speed when I was there...not sure I like the orange on that one.
"You'll have to answer to the Coca-Cola company."
Until Toyota/Subaru/Scion release a higher performing engine the car will be a complete and utter failure in my eyes. Some people here love the car and good on them for it. I just fail to see what's so redeeming about driving a small/tossable car with an econobox engine in it.
Last edited by InternetMeme; 06-14-2012 at 09:52 PM.
Well, there you go. You shouldn't be the type to get the point of a cheap sports car. These are for people who need cheap cars with cheap consumables and little maintenance.
But fortunately, Porsches still exist. How lovely for you, yes?
It's a new car with warranty in the 25-30k range that will do borderline Honda Civic fuel economy with the best drive south of a Porsche Cayman?
I get that you drive a modded 22b STi and that it's an awesome car. But a comparable new model is in a decidedly different price bracket from an FR-S/BRZ and weighs 500 lbs more. Your 22b comparison is apples to orangutangs.
*edit* and somewhat beaten to the punch.