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    06-03-2012 01:22 AM #1
    Lower PRICE
    Make me an offer....
    Car was inspected at Otto's bmw dealer last week.... "they had never seen such a good condition , well maintained E34"


    For sale is my 1990 E34 M5 Euro version car.
    Selling because car is way to fast for my family of 5 and wife says I have too many toys.

    I am the second owner of the car and have owned it for over 11 years. I imported it myself from Germany 6 years ago.

    Exterior colour: diamant black metallic
    Interior colour: Rare champagne leather with "extra" option where glove box and many other interior parts are covered in leather.

    Car is stock except for radio which is a brand new Sony cd USB ipod MP3 player.

    Other details:
    5 speed manual
    New transmission about 1000km ago. (7k invested at duss brothers)
    Complete new clutch and pressure plate at this time
    New heater core about 500km ago. (1k invested)
    AC converted to new coolant and works well
    Only synthetic oil since birth
    5 seater version

    Car is now a registered "collector car" and therefore has 80% lower insurance ratets! About 200$ fully insured annual premiums...(silver wheels plan)

    Please call to make an offer or book a test drive or email for more information.





    He's asking $11,500 OBO

    http://ontario.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehi...AdIdZ384893261

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    06-03-2012 01:29 AM #2
    Go look at bimmerforums and check what it costs for maintenance of that engine. If that doesn't scare you, then you're good.

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    06-03-2012 01:35 AM #3
    Quote Originally Posted by MylesPH1 View Post
    Go look at bimmerforums and check what it costs for maintenance of that engine. If that doesn't scare you, then you're good.
    Worse than the V8/V12 in the 8 series?

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    06-03-2012 01:37 AM #4
    Run towards it with open arms!

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    06-03-2012 01:38 AM #5
    Nah

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    06-03-2012 02:23 AM #6
    What BMW was building in the 90s is the most reliable they've ever been. At the very very least, cheapest to repair. I say do it if you fancy it.

    They're not Hondas or buicks, so they will cost more to keep on the road, but for BMWs, 90s models are pretty solid and dependable.
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    06-03-2012 03:35 AM #7
    Do it!

    I saw an M5 of this vintage in Hamilton just the other day. Would love to know there's another one around.

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    06-03-2012 03:55 AM #8
    Quote Originally Posted by TetsuoShima View Post
    Worse than the V8/V12 in the 8 series?

    Worse? Nah. Complicated? A little bit. Individual throttle bodies can get pricey when they have issues. The other issue is age and availability - they're getting up there in years and sourcing replacement parts starts to be an issue. None of that should be a deal breaker, but that motor only came in E34 M5's, so be prepared to hunt around for parts if you need them.

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    06-03-2012 04:19 AM #9
    165k km's and transmission issues? Seems suspect.

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    06-03-2012 04:54 AM #10
    No reasoning run away based on what was said in the ad. Do a full ppi and approach with caution.
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    06-03-2012 07:05 AM #11
    Why do you want to buy it? Because it's a good looking bodystyle and an M-car? An E46 330i for $11k woud be just as fast, have better handling, just as much interior room, and would be 10+ years newer with a lot fewer old car problems. Of course, it's not as "special" as an old M5. I've never been overly impressed by the ///M badge, so I know which one I'd choose.

    --->edit, oh it's a Euro 3.8 M5? OK, it would be about than a half second quicker to 60 mph vs an E46 330i. Still not worth the trouble IMO.
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    06-03-2012 07:36 AM #12
    Quote Originally Posted by MylesPH1 View Post
    Go look at bimmerforums and check what it costs for maintenance of that engine. If that doesn't scare you, then you're good.
    This.

    Are you looking for a daily driver or weekend toy?

    It's an awesome car and the steering wheel is on the right side.

    But like the skyline, it has the potential to make life difficult as a daily driver.

  13. 06-03-2012 08:16 AM #13
    Spend more money up front on something that will hold together not a race car with 23 years of chassis flex

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    06-03-2012 08:24 AM #14
    Get a PPI done, I'm sure they're expensive cars to own but I think a good clean E34 M5 would be worth the expense.

    Am I just being paranoid or do the gaps seem off in the second pic?
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    1988 is not an 80's car, it's an early 90s car but whatever.

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    06-03-2012 08:36 AM #15
    If you don't buy it, I might.

    Assuming it's in the states? Ottos isn't too far from me...
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    06-03-2012 08:53 AM #16
    It depends on the price.

    The seller requesting someone "make me an offer" and claiming to have "invested" money in the car with repairs and maintenance are not a good sign.

  17. 06-03-2012 08:59 AM #17
    I'm surprised at some of the replies. If you get a good report from a PPI, go for it.

    I guess the only thing to consider is if this will be your only car?

    I hate to jump on the bandwagon, but that was a time when BMW was really building magnificent automobiles.

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    06-03-2012 09:21 AM #18
    i would love to have a chance to pick up somethig like that in this condition.
    dont even think twice imho.

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    06-03-2012 09:23 AM #19
    Quote Originally Posted by PhilHVW View Post

    --->edit, oh it's a Euro 3.8 M5? OK, it would be about than a half second quicker to 60 mph vs an E46 330i. Still not worth the trouble IMO.
    It's not a 3.8. Europe still used the s38b36 until 1991.

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    06-03-2012 11:03 AM #20
    The E34 M5, to me, is the quintessential BMW.

    If you can afford the maintenance, I'd go for it and don't look back.

    If I was making a bit more $$ (let's say $80k/yr) I would own one.

  21. 06-03-2012 11:36 AM #21
    He just spent 8 grand to fix it, and wants to sell it?

    To me, that is always a warning sign.
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    06-03-2012 11:41 AM #22
    Car isn't for me. Not sure if you remember but a few weeks ago I made a thread about that 850 that's being sold by my house for ~12k that my friend was really interested in. Forgot to edit it but we checked it out and he seems to be pretty excited about it but has to wait until the end of the summer before he can pull the trigger (he flips houses on the side so he's waiting until he's done this house he's working on now and sells it before he pulls the trigger). He told me to keep looking around for older BMW's around that price range so I found this.

    What would you guys rather have E34 M5 or E31 850i?

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    06-03-2012 11:42 AM #23
    Quote Originally Posted by TetsuoShima View Post

    What would you guys rather have E34 M5 or E31 850i?
    E34, 10 times out of 10.

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    06-03-2012 11:44 AM #24
    x2, no contest whatsoever
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    1988 is not an 80's car, it's an early 90s car but whatever.

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    06-03-2012 11:46 AM #25
    While not unreliable- these 6's were handbuilt and are fairly maintenance heavy. Just something to be prepared for. I love the lines of the E34 and the M has such a nice passive-aggressive attitude to it.

    If you plan on DD'ing it, I've heard some people complain the motor is like an on and off switch at low speeds.

    My final tip- if you're looking for a similar experience, check out the 535i from the same era. While it won't be nearly as fast, it will be much more maintenance friendly. The 3.5 M30 has a neat, primitive, kind of muscle car feel to it. I'm buying one myself.
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    06-03-2012 11:47 AM #26
    These cars are wonderful....but make no mistake they can suck your wallet dry too. That beautiful engine runs well when in good condition, but rebuilds run $12K plus. There are also lots of unique (expensive) interior parts, and be aware of the hydraulic rear-leveling system.

    http://www.nwbmwforums.com/viewtopic...eb8a2cc8f6a0af

    All in all, they're fantastic vehicles, but they're like any German car from that era....lots of little things to go wrong, lots of them expensive to fix.
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    06-03-2012 11:49 AM #27
    Quote Originally Posted by TetsuoShima View Post
    What would you guys rather have E34 M5 or E31 850i?
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    E34, 10 times out of 10.
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    06-03-2012 12:13 PM #28
    So 0 - 60 in 6 seconds is too fast for a family of 5? Delusional perhaps.

    A V6 Camry would keep right up with this car.

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    06-03-2012 12:20 PM #29
    Did he get a complete new box from the shelf at bmw?
    Seems like a lot of money, even if you factor in clutch and everything

    However, if he is willing to dump that kind of money, chances are everything else was maintained.
    if hes got service records, and came back from an inspection with a clean bill of health, why not?

    You can always find another independent shop, and have him take it there

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    06-03-2012 12:22 PM #30
    Quote Originally Posted by PhilHVW View Post
    Why do you want to buy it? Because it's a good looking bodystyle and an M-car? An E46 330i for $11k woud be just as fast, have better handling, just as much interior room, and would be 10+ years newer with a lot fewer old car problems. Of course, it's not as "special" as an old M5. I've never been overly impressed by the ///M badge, so I know which one I'd choose.

    --->edit, oh it's a Euro 3.8 M5? OK, it would be about than a half second quicker to 60 mph vs an E46 330i. Still not worth the trouble IMO.
    What is it with the idiots on TCL thinking everything is about numbers? I don't care if an E46 330i Is almost as fast. It certainly isn't an E34 M5.
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    06-03-2012 12:39 PM #32
    Quote Originally Posted by lorge1989 View Post
    mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm i like that one
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    06-03-2012 12:44 PM #33
    Quote Originally Posted by VadGTI View Post
    Run towards it with open arms!

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    06-03-2012 12:44 PM #34
    The best M5 version yet IMHO.

    The only real thing you have to worry about is...
    The engines are generally needing a rebuild every (it's recommended) every 100K miles.
    the rebuild costs roughly 5-7 grand.
    If there's no proof of an engine rebuild, use that amount as a bargaining chip on the price.

    buy the car, and get the engine redone.
    Spend the next 100,000 miles driving a fantastic car.

    These cars are built very very well.

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    06-03-2012 12:46 PM #35
    Honestly, if you make a decent income, I mean a DECENT income, not $40K a year selling cell phones, great. If not, stay away. $11.5k is not what will get you. Its the age of the car and the price of the parts at this point. Not that they are unreliable, they are great cars. Its just that its 20 years old, and WHEN something does break, grab your wallet and your shorts as you are losing both. I just had a customer dump $15K on his on a complete reseal and rehose and a ton of other odds and ends for a 20 year old BMW...... Plus another $2K to redo the shrinking door panels and headliner. His is a 91 with 28K or so miles. You have been warned.
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