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    Thread: Nür Technik - HPA Motorsports Turbo Build

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      06-04-2012 05:32 PM #1


      The Car:
      (View from the Project Cam [Shop mounted GoPro])

      2008 Audi TT
      -3.2L VR6 Engine
      -DSG Transmission
      -Exterior color BLACK
      -Haldex Controller
      -HPA Dogbone Mount
      -Dyno @ DBPerformance yielded 172awhp 184 ft/lb (DynoDynamics)
      -Goal is 475bhp and 500 ft/lb

      The build list:

      HPA 20th Anniversary Turbo Kit
      -Liquid cooled integrated short runner intake manifold
      -After cooler package for integrated intake air to water intercooler
      -Cast exhaust manifold, with external Oxygen sensors
      -Hybrid GT35 Ball Bearing based turbo-w/integrated diverter and waste gate valve
      -Stainless Steel Down Pipes (MK4 single 70mm, MK5 dual 55mm)
      -Stainless Steel Turbo assembly Heatshield
      -Custom wrapped Silicone piping with stainless steel clamps
      -Head spacer plate to lower compression Head gaskets and Head Bolts
      -500ml high flow fuel injectors
      -4.0B return fuel system (MK5 only)
      -Braided Stainless Steel Oil Feed Line
      -Oil Return lines
      -Performance ECU upgrade

      Items that were upgraded from the 20th Anniversary Kit:

      -High flow 100C Cat Cores
      -Inline Fuel pump (Walbro)
      -Race Grade Connecting rod bearings
      -Large MAF
      -750ml high flow fuel injectors
      -88mm Full Custom Exhaust designed and manufactured at HPA Motorsports
      -ARP Connecting Rod Bolts

      Drivetrain Upgrades:
      -HPA Stage 1 DSG Clutch Pack Upgrade 6:7 Disk Performance Clutch package
      -HPA Stage 4 DSG Software

      Additional upgrades:
      -HPA 8 Piston Front Calipers paired with custom slotted RS6 (365mm) Rotors (Possibly getting Cryotreated at our neighbors (Frozen Rotors))
      -Powdercoated rear OE Calipers (by Nur Technik) paired with 335mm Rear Rotors
      -Osir Carbon Fiber Rear Valence with openings for the Quad tip exhaust

      Here are the pics of said parts:



















      The build is scheduled to begin June 5th and have a tenative end date around June 18th depending on the swift work of HPA on the DSG components.

      I will post GoPro images as well as some video along the way!

      -David
      Nur Technik, LLC
      Performance Automotive Facility
      11920 12th Avenue South
      Burnsville MN 55337
      952-322-7495
      www.nurtechnik.com
      service@nurtechnik.com


      **Postcard in pics is 4x6 for scaling reference

    2. 06-04-2012 05:54 PM #2
      Great pics guys, can't wait to see this come to life!!!
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      06-05-2012 06:43 PM #3
      Another item we are going to do with our friends at www.frozenrotors.com is to do a deep-cryogenic process to the four rotors (already semi truck size for this application!).

      http://www.frozenrotors.com/about/why-deep-cryogenics/

      Also, the car weighed in at 3300 LBS prior to the built at our local Waste Management location.
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      06-06-2012 02:21 AM #4
      Do you have any informaton on the brake caliper adapters shown in this picture?



      Who made them? Where can I get them, etc?

      Thanks,

      - Jeremy -
      Last edited by - Jeremy -; 06-06-2012 at 05:27 AM.

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      06-06-2012 04:39 AM #5
      subscribed.
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      06-06-2012 11:36 AM #6
      Marcel can chime in on this, but they were provided to us via HPA Motorsports.

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      06-06-2012 08:04 PM #7
      Some updates from the Project Cam:
      Pulled in the shop

      Front End Off

      Exhaust Out

      Engine Out

      YEA!!

      Engine/Trans Seperation

      Draining DSG Fluid Before Removing Clutch Pack

      Begin Engine Tear-down

      Ready for Head Spacer, New Timing Chain and Tensioner


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      06-06-2012 10:09 PM #8
      stock 3.2 is only
      Dyno @ DBPerformance yielded 172awhp 184 ft/lb (DynoDynamics)

      that makes me sad from the listed 250hp.. i know there will be some power loss but jeeze thats a lot.. lol


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      06-06-2012 10:13 PM #9
      That's a nice and clean shop guys

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      06-06-2012 10:14 PM #10
      Yea even with a dynodynamics you should only add about 30% so thats around 225 at the crank. Charles Barkley says thats turrble!

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      06-06-2012 11:01 PM #11
      Subed! Cant wait to see this thing roar! Might have to take a trip down there and take a peek!

      Free bump!

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      06-07-2012 12:05 AM #12
      We will post all the graphs and such for the Dyno. The "shootout" mode read 206/221 (which gives you a little less than 20% crank to wheel loss -- which i believe is normal), which is a bit closer to how other dyno machines will register. I have a B7 A4 with a high-flow cat and a stage II from APR and while very fun and greatly improved, the stock TT VR6 still blows it away on performance (as noted above -- 700 lbs more weight it just too much to make up). That application is listed around 260HP as well...
      Last edited by sentari; 06-10-2012 at 03:24 AM.
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      06-07-2012 03:46 AM #13
      Fast work guys..
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      06-08-2012 01:38 PM #14
      Today's progress:

      -Removed front and rear braking components
      -Test fitted new 8 piston Calipers and 365mm rotors
      -Separated head from block
      -Cleaned up the engine bay and wheel wells
      -Ordered some Roloc Bristle Discs to clean up the head and block (They work wonders)

      Tomorrow installing more HPA parts...on a Golf R though* ;D

      -David


      A shot from yesterday:


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      06-08-2012 03:42 PM #15
      Got creative with some jack stands and wheel dollies*



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      06-09-2012 12:23 AM #16
      Quote Originally Posted by sentari View Post
      We will post all the graphs and such for the Dyno. The "shootout" mode read 206/221, which is a bit closer to how other dyno machines will register. I have a B7 A4 with a high-flow cat and a stage II from APR and while very fun and greatly improved, the stock TT VR6 still blows it away on performance. That application is listed around 260HP as well...
      Then something is wrong with your A4

    17. 06-09-2012 03:53 AM #17
      Any more detail pictures of the Turbo/manifold. ???

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      06-10-2012 12:14 AM #18
      Quote Originally Posted by sentari View Post
      I'll run the A4 through the same Dyno later sometime. But the TT is lighter by a few hundred pounds and the power comes faster. So 0-60 is about 3/4 second faster.
      I'm not trying to hate just saying that 250 lbs doesnt make that much of a diff. stock a4 is 15 sec. 1/4 mile, stock 3.2 tt is 14.5 sec. a chip on the a4 should make them even. i have a GIAC tt225 all else stock and my friend who has a 2007 a4 with an automatic and an APR reflashand he is almost as fast as I am and I am faster than stock 350z's. BTW I think the stock DSG programming limits the power on the 3.2 tt's. Best of luck with the build

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      06-10-2012 04:43 AM #19
      I didnt realize you had a cabriolet. 400 extra pounds, thats rediculous. I think those times for the tt are a little optimistc however. Most seem to be running closer to the mid 14's in the 1/4. Is the A4 a manual, an automatic or a cvt?

    20. 06-10-2012 04:46 AM #20
      Quote Originally Posted by sentari View Post
      On Monday I'll take more pictures...
      It looks like two parts, and not a single turbo/manifold unit.
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      06-10-2012 02:58 PM #21
      Here's the manifold: http://www.hpamotorsport.com/exhaustmani.htm

      The actual description of the turbo is: Hybrid GT35 Ball Bearing based turbo-w/integrated diverter and waste gate valve. It's an impressive piece of engineering and innovation.


      Quote Originally Posted by R5T View Post
      It looks like two parts, and not a single turbo/manifold unit.
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      06-13-2012 06:47 PM #22
      Maybe HPA's Marcel can elaborate on the Turbo.

      Quote Originally Posted by R5T View Post
      It looks like two parts, and not a single turbo/manifold unit.
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      06-13-2012 11:31 PM #23
      I'd like to get a new steering wheel that has more beef. It appears the TT-RS, RS5, RS8 has what I want. But what do I need to considering when doing this upgrade? I'd like to refuse the air-bag I have and sell the old steering wheel. Or is this not possible? Plus I have DSG so I would need a European TT-RS etc.... So i'd appreciate anyone with experience or knowhow in this matter to chime in.
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      06-14-2012 07:05 AM #24
      Quote Originally Posted by sentari View Post
      I'd like to get a new steering wheel that has more beef. It appears the TT-RS, RS5, RS8 has what I want. But what do I need to considering when doing this upgrade? I'd like to refuse the air-bag I have and sell the old steering wheel. Or is this not possible? Plus I have DSG so I would need a European TT-RS etc.... So i'd appreciate anyone with experience or knowhow in this matter to chime in.
      Maybe this is what you need..


      This is mine and has CF flappy paddles.
      The control funcctions buttons have been deleted.
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      06-14-2012 08:22 PM #25
      I've been looking at a RS5 Perforated Leather one. it looks thicker, but otherwise the same.

      http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-AUDI-RS5...t_11854wt_1378
      Last edited by sentari; 06-14-2012 at 08:25 PM.
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      06-15-2012 01:45 PM #26
      We ordered up the OE TT-RS (EU Version)* front honeycomb grill and some of those european OE aspherical mirrors.* A Golf-R came into the shop with them and they were a 'must have'..



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      06-15-2012 01:46 PM #27
      Where did you get that Wheel?
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      06-15-2012 03:19 PM #28
      It's from an eBay company called Nexan, try here..
      http://item.mobileweb.ebay.co.uk/vie...id=06810402243
      It's a nice addition but not cheap.
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      06-16-2012 12:18 AM #29
      What's the deal with the airbag and airbag harness? Can the current airbag and airbag harness be transferred into a new wheel without issue. It appears there are oval and circle variants of the airbag.... Hm...

      Quote Originally Posted by sTT eV6 View Post
      It's from an eBay company called Nexan, try here..
      http://item.mobileweb.ebay.co.uk/vie...id=06810402243
      It's a nice addition but not cheap.
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      06-16-2012 12:21 AM #30
      What's the recommendation for spark plugs in an FI application like this? I'd hate to miss a small thing like this.

      Also, I'm also thinking about the Okada Plasma Direct ignition coils. Radically expensive, but they appear to the shi3t.
      Last edited by sentari; 06-17-2012 at 09:48 PM.
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      06-16-2012 07:25 AM #31
      Quote Originally Posted by sentari View Post
      What's the deal with the airbag and airbag harness? Can the current airbag and airbag harness be transferred into a new wheel without issue. It appears there are oval and circle variants of the airbag.... Hm...

      Not sure on interchange, I bought the bag and wheel together
      Steve

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      06-18-2012 11:46 PM #32
      Ok, I'll spare the pictures of the R8 coolant and oil cap.* But here's the steering wheel that's coming (it's basically a bit smaller, fatter, and perforated for his pleasure):* It's the EU version with paddles that you can't get here.*


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      06-18-2012 11:51 PM #33
      Ok.. So we need wheels and we are considering the BBS CH-R's 19's in silver. Not too expensive, yet pretty cool (kinda like the TT itself I guess). Tire Rack comes up with 245's for the tires. It seems to me that 255's would work. Does anyone have any experience in this matter?
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      06-19-2012 07:13 AM #34
      Quote Originally Posted by sentari View Post
      Ok.. So we need wheels and we are considering the BBS CH-R's 19's in silver. Not too expensive, yet pretty cool (kinda like the TT itself I guess). Tire Rack comes up with 245's for the tires. It seems to me that 255's would work. Does anyone have any experience in this matter?
      The important bit is the rolling radius of the front to back as the haldex wont like it if there is too much of a difference.
      What tyre manufacturer are you going for ?
      Steve

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      06-22-2012 11:55 PM #35
      Got a few things back from powder coating.. A little VR6, a little "Viper"...

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