The best cars I've ever owned (VW and Audi) = bashed by CR.
The worst cars I've ever owned (Japanese and GM) = loved by CR.
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I have always felt that these magazines are all bias. Or their palms are itchy and not scratched enough.
the larges POS I have ever own was the Scion XB 2nd edition. It had serious weld issues. AND CR said one of the best cars ever made. Pony POOP.
My best car was an A4 i had for one summer. my dads
Last edited by Babie; 09-12-2012 at 07:27 PM.
I like VWs and Audis. I've had atleast two of them at any given time over the course of 13+ years. That being said, I think the criticism they get is well deserved and not the result of bias.
Regardless of my anodotal experience with them or yours. Independent of your experience with other brands, VWs are usually priced above competitive models and cost more to own over these same vehicles. This additional cost does not appear to come with increased reliability. VW has earned a reputation and the only way they can shed it is to reduce thier warranty cost (improve the quality) I continue to buy them currently but I never recommend them to friends and collegues who have high expectations for trouble-free driving.
I'm not impressed with CR but I think VW's products have earned themselves a certain visibility in thier eyes.
Last edited by VR6Now; 09-15-2012 at 05:16 PM.
Personally, I've been lucky with my current '01 NB 1.8T (205k) and had over 300k on a '81 Audi 4000. I've kept the cost of ownership low by learning to maintain and fix things myself and buying late in each generation. To date my 11.75yr/205k old NB has cost only $6900 for maintenance, repair, wear-n-tear or $587/yr. Not bad considering it gets on average 17,500mi per year. And AFAIK, my Mexican taped-together NB is the only car that's gone over 200k in the clan.
Last edited by Cadenza_7o; 09-15-2012 at 07:45 PM.
I had a 2001 VW Beetle TDI that I kick myself a little every day for unloading. No issues with cam wear, (1.9 PD 2005-2006 MK5) or HPFPs (2.0 CR 2009+). It doesn't seem like VW knows what its doing with the current diesels. At least the Passat TDI seems ok right now.
VW isn't a victim of bias. With window regulator issues (MK4 & B5 A4), FSI oil consumption issues, 1.8T premature timing belt failures, TSI intake manifold flapper & chain tensioner issues, DSG failures, DMF problems, and the current Beetles window problem, they have to a certain extent made their own bed. Even the 2012 Golf R has been experiencing a water pump failure which take the whole engine out. It's in small numbers thus far but a water pump should not typically result in a new engine but it does in this case.
Last edited by VR6Now; 09-16-2012 at 12:21 PM.
The Veloster is a severely under powered cheap roller skate. The Beetle is much more solid, comfortable and capable cruiser. A corner cutter road burner it is not, but would make a fine commuter car (which I'm considering buying). A local dealer is offering $2000 OFF all Beetles currently. Very enticing to say the least!
Lol after reading all of it must say who cares. It seems like it has been for ever that consumer reports have been out. I feel that it is a nice way to do some looking into things, but most of there time the articles are very lame. As in the fact that they bash things with little to no knowledge and rarely state facts correctly. It would be like going to a middle school bus driver and asking him what laptop to buy. If you need to see what people have noticed that have owned the car this is a great tool to get idea's on things. I mean come on we all have are own personal taste and will choose to like or hate things all on are own. Consumer reports have bashed things that I have liked in the past. So just move on with life and laugh at the fact that they think there car had drum rear brakes. I have access to ETKA and there is only one option for rear brake on the Beetle for US models and that is Bosch rear disc's.
I don't trust anything consumer reports says. Never have, never will. I've found that their reports tend to be biased.
Oh the Versa flat out sucks. Really sucks. had if for a day while my bug was stopping in the dealership to say "hello". Nothing wrong with it, we just visit for fun occasionally so the service department has something to do... They gave me a rental and it was the versa... Wow, plastic clatters in my bug? compared to the versa I drive a library...
The problem with a lot of these reviews by the PROS is like a movie critic. They review every movie like its going to be an oscar contender, instead of just a fun outlet. CR and others do the same as if every car made is trying to get car of the year.
Go drive one that has 4 or 5000 miles on it and see what things are like in a vehicle after some road wear. Most cars are awesome at 000000 and may not be at 005000 or 020000 on the odometer.
Not as easy with a bug, not so many used ones available.
"Jake Fisher of Consumer Reports picked the Hyundai Veloster"