Hidden master cylinder / clutch master questions

[Martin Sheen]

I am looking to hide my brake booster and master cylinder when I shave my engine bay, similar to this -



I have an idea on how the brake booster gets modified and moved. like so -



But I am not too sure how I want to do the clutch master

Alotta mini truck guys relocate theirs so I've been researching and this is about all I can come up with -







The idea makes sense, but there just doesn't seem like there would be enough room under the dash to fit something like this

[Scrubbs]

Im not seeing any brake boosters in the photos, So you will have to compensate with a different master cylinder for braking. Unless its planned to be a trailer queen. Weak braking is dangerous on the highway. It scares me to think of what is already out there and what is modified to fit vs work.

[Eganx]

YEah, second that. There is no booster in that pic, just a master cylinder, which to me is sketchy if its street driven.

I would venture to guess that the clutch master would have to be mounted in a similar fashion as the brake master in your pic......if there is room...

[polov8]

This is what I did to mount a clutch master cylinder in my cable clutch RHD mk1 Scirocco

I then mounted in the master cylinder and double checked the available travel, angles etc, and it was all looking good:

And following that, there was no excuse to not mounted in the car. Unfortunately, daylight had deserted me by this time, so the crapy pics are due to the inspection lamp.

It seems to fit a treat, I suspect that the heater pipe will need some modification, but I haven't checked yet, so I might be lucky. Full travel goes from pedal level with the brake pedal, to 1/2" off the carpet, so it looks like i measured right! This pic shows the pedal fully depressed:

[Martin Sheen]

Perfect! Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks! Is that a MK4 clutch master?

The more I look at what I want to do, the more I think I'm just going to hide the clutch master and leave the whole power braking system

[polov8]

yeah that's a mk4 master cylinder.

[BiH]

they make a 90 degree MC kit but it costs anywhere from 300 to almost 800 depending on what you want. it can come like above with manual MC as cheap version or with booster and clutch master as well. problem I see is the space underneath, I want to do it on my mk4 as I want to shave the firewall fully.

[BiH]

link
http://www.kugelkomponents.com/zenca...ndex&cPath=4_5

[JakRabit]

I used the wilwood reverse mount brake and clutch setup on my mk1 jetta works perfect and minimal fab needed

[BiH]

got any pics?

[TheBurninator]

You could also run a Tilton/Wilwood pedal setup.

[vdubfiend]

I'm running a non abs power brake setup out of a 2.0 mk3 and an oe vr6 clutch m/c
Both fit under the stock mk3 dash although I no longer am running any a/c or heat/blower so I have quite a bit of room in there
I'll try to get some pix if you're interested

[DeepSeaDynamo]

I'm running a non abs power brake setup out of a 2.0 mk3 and an oe vr6 clutch m/c
Both fit under the stock mk3 dash although I no longer am running any a/c or heat/blower so I have quite a bit of room in there
I'll try to get some pix if you're interested

I'd love to see them

[d-bot]

You could also run a Tilton/Wilwood pedal setup.

I did this in my S1 rocco. Cut out the old, fab in the new.

[GTijoejoe]

As alluded too, when ppl shave their engine bay they delete the boost and go with manual brakes with a proper sized pedal and MC size. Keep in mind it takes a lot of force, so the brkts have to be extremely stiff or you will get loses in your system.

I have known someone to do this, and not verify their setup and ended up selling the car because it was so frustrating after all the work to build an amazing looking car which was also fast but couldn't stop like pooooooh

[d-bot]

^^^^ I can't agree more with that statement. You actually want a master the same size or slightly smaller than the stock one. Manual brakes aren't for everyone but I personally loved the feel.