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  1. 06-08-2012 06:51 PM #1
    Okay, so I am rewrapping my headliner this weekend. I already have it out and I am wraping it in vinyl or "bonded leather". Has anyone had any experience with this and is there any ways to ensure it lays nice without wrinkles? I was thinking of using a small paint roller with a extreamly nappy roller to push it down and roll out any trapped air.

    I have mentioned this to a local group via our forums and I was suggested not to do it. But I have already bought all the fabric and do not intend to return it. If it comes out looking like crap I will try to remove it. If i can't I will head to the pick yards or hit the [FS] threads.

    Futher information. I have a MKIV.

    Thank you for your time!
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    06-10-2012 08:19 PM #2
    Hey please let us know how it came out... picz would be awesome too

  3. 06-10-2012 10:44 PM #3
    weekend was a lot more hectic then i planed. I will hopefully work some time in this week. will def have pictures when completed.

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    06-11-2012 01:31 PM #4
    i am in for pics as well

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    06-14-2012 01:36 AM #5
    My headliner is out as well. I am considering 3M vinyl so post some pics and let me know if you indeed try the vinyl route.

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    06-18-2012 02:03 PM #6
    There are a lot of compound curves on a headliner. It will be tough to get a good finish without lots of patience.

    The vinyl does not stretch and hide things like the oem foam backed cloth does.

    Personally I would stitch some seams to help get the material around some of the challenging corners, dips etc.
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    06-24-2012 09:18 AM #7
    Decided to go with the foam backed material.

    I have the material on and will trim it out today.



    The only challenge was around the sunroof control and light box up front.

    The key is to cut the material in the hole are of the box, spray glue in the lower corners and stretch the material. Only after it dries, spray the top of the box and set the material in place.

    And whatever you do don't try to pull the material up after about 2 minutes or the foam will separate from the material.

    You get one shot to get it right.

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    06-24-2012 01:04 PM #8
    Headliner is nearing completion.



    I found that contact cement works great along the edges.


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    06-24-2012 01:59 PM #9
    Headliner is complete.





    It was not that bad. Its not perfect by all means. Once it is reinstalled I will see how it looks. I am happy with it so far.

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    06-24-2012 08:59 PM #10
    What adhesive did you use, and how is it holding up in Florida humidity?

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    06-25-2012 03:47 PM #11
    The fabric and adhesive is from Joann's Fabrics.



    I ordered fabric samples from two companies but Joann's fabric was comparable.







    The adhesive worked well. Its not coming off thats for sure.







    I used contact cement around the edges and any where I couldn't easily spray the adhesive. It worked great. The setup time is longer but once it holds, it holds.




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    06-25-2012 07:54 PM #12
    I have the fabric to do it I am going to be using a heatgun to soften the material around the compound curves.


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    liking/appreciating static is one thing, but to think its better that airride is a whole nuther story....better ride and handling while driving, more drivability, and looks better when parked....you might as well say its better to always have a hard on...id rather deflate it when im not using it and then pump it up when its time to go....lol...

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    06-25-2012 08:01 PM #13
    The contact cement has a 15 min to 30 minute setup time.

    You can glue the compound corners and have 15 minutes before you stick the fabric to the headliner. Once you stick it it wont come off and it holds better than the spray adhesive.

    It gives you more time to get it right.

    The set time of the spray adhesive is 30 seconds to 1 minute.

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    06-25-2012 09:42 PM #14
    Quote Originally Posted by cazzz View Post
    Headliner is complete.



    Did you end up using the vinyl? I can't tell
    Quote Originally Posted by dubvinci View Post
    liking/appreciating static is one thing, but to think its better that airride is a whole nuther story....better ride and handling while driving, more drivability, and looks better when parked....you might as well say its better to always have a hard on...id rather deflate it when im not using it and then pump it up when its time to go....lol...

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    06-27-2012 02:54 PM #15
    Quote Originally Posted by cazzz View Post
    Decided to go with the foam backed material.

    I have the material on and will trim it out today.



    The only challenge was around the sunroof control and light box up front.

    The key is to cut the material in the hole are of the box, spray glue in the lower corners and stretch the material. Only after it dries, spray the top of the box and set the material in place.

    And whatever you do don't try to pull the material up after about 2 minutes or the foam will separate from the material.

    You get one shot to get it right.




    You did an awesome job man buddy of mine did his in black suede I looks great just wondering what u meant by the fabric u bought that had the foam backing?? Did u purchase the foam separately ???

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    06-27-2012 04:29 PM #16
    Headliner material comes with a foam backing attached so you can glue it.



    Heavy fabrics don't need the foam because the adhesive won't come through the fabric.

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    06-27-2012 10:13 PM #17
    awesome thanks good job too post some pics with it in the car

  18. 07-10-2012 03:14 PM #18
    Looks good man. I need to do this as well. How much did everything run you?

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    07-10-2012 03:35 PM #19
    $30 bucks for the material and glue.

    But, consider this. Take out the headliner and strip the material and old foam.

    Take it to an upholstery shop and for $80 the will cover it for you.

    It took me a full day to do it myself because it was my first. Plus I did make a couple errors that I wouldn't make the second time around.

    So, for the difference of $50 you save yourself a days work.

  20. 07-11-2012 12:19 PM #20
    Quote Originally Posted by cazzz View Post
    $30 bucks for the material and glue.

    But, consider this. Take out the headliner and strip the material and old foam.

    Take it to an upholstery shop and for $80 the will cover it for you.

    It took me a full day to do it myself because it was my first. Plus I did make a couple errors that I wouldn't make the second time around.

    So, for the difference of $50 you save yourself a days work.
    Nice, thanks for the help man.

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    07-26-2012 12:04 PM #21
    how did you do the handle areas. I used same material and re wrapped mine but the handles wouldnt form the depth well. I hope that when I attach the handles them selves they help bring it down a bit
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    07-26-2012 03:37 PM #22
    Quote Originally Posted by webbs2jzgte View Post
    how did you do the handle areas. I used same material and re wrapped mine but the handles wouldnt form the depth well. I hope that when I attach the handles them selves they help bring it down a bit
    You need to lay your headliner on its underside, put in your oh **** handles in the recess and put a book on top. That way it will for in there and will not come back out.
    Quote Originally Posted by dubvinci View Post
    liking/appreciating static is one thing, but to think its better that airride is a whole nuther story....better ride and handling while driving, more drivability, and looks better when parked....you might as well say its better to always have a hard on...id rather deflate it when im not using it and then pump it up when its time to go....lol...

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    07-29-2012 09:31 AM #23
    Quote Originally Posted by webbs2jzgte View Post
    how did you do the handle areas. I used same material and re wrapped mine but the handles wouldnt form the depth well. I hope that when I attach the handles them selves they help bring it down a bit
    In all of the recessed areas, grab handles and in front of the sunroof, you start by gluing the lowest point. Stretch the fabric and hold it until the glue sets. Then and only then apply glue to the surrounding area.

    Work you way from low ti high and it will stretch into place.

    My grab handles do not hold the fabric. The fabric is stretched and glued in place.

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    08-01-2012 09:29 PM #24
    About to do this in the Jetta. How many yards of fabric did you use? What width, 54"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ripdubski View Post
    About to do this in the Jetta. How many yards of fabric did you use? What width, 54"?
    Do not remember the exact number on the width but I used 7.5 yds if I recall correctly. I just wanted the grain of my fabric to go a certain way, but you can probably get aways with less.
    Quote Originally Posted by dubvinci View Post
    liking/appreciating static is one thing, but to think its better that airride is a whole nuther story....better ride and handling while driving, more drivability, and looks better when parked....you might as well say its better to always have a hard on...id rather deflate it when im not using it and then pump it up when its time to go....lol...

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    08-01-2012 09:55 PM #26
    Quote Originally Posted by Ripdubski View Post
    About to do this in the Jetta. How many yards of fabric did you use? What width, 54"?
    54" wide

    You need 2 yards, that is 6' long. I bought 3 yards to have extra for my doors.

    7.5 yards would be 21.5 feet of fabric. Is this a stretch limo Jetta?

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    08-01-2012 10:03 PM #27
    Quote Originally Posted by cazzz View Post
    54" wide

    You need 2 yards, that is 6' long. I bought 3 yards to have extra for my doors.

    7.5 yards would be 21.5 feet of fabric. Is this a stretch limo Jetta?
    Yes superomgstretchlimochickcar.

    I am guessing you did not read my post so I will make it easier for you by making the answer to your question bold:

    Quote Originally Posted by eurolicious View Post
    Do not remember the exact number on the width but I used 7.5 yds if I recall correctly. I just wanted the grain of my fabric to go a certain way, but you can probably get aways with less.
    Quote Originally Posted by dubvinci View Post
    liking/appreciating static is one thing, but to think its better that airride is a whole nuther story....better ride and handling while driving, more drivability, and looks better when parked....you might as well say its better to always have a hard on...id rather deflate it when im not using it and then pump it up when its time to go....lol...

  28. 08-02-2012 05:12 PM #28
    great photos... this is exciting. my gf's '01 jetta's headliner needs replacing... looks like i've found the right source for the experts on taking-on this project!

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