I'm not sure where people are getting the impression that Webber would have sailed by had there not been yellows; they were having a great battle for many laps prior to that and Schumacher was able to fend off the Red Bull without any real close calls.
"The Venezuelan was penalised for ‘failing to rejoin the track in a safe manner’ after he ran off the circuit while attempting to pass Hamilton for third place."
And there's the point some people seem to be having such a hard time to grasp for some reason. Forced off or not, he was off, and is required to rejoin in a safe manner.
Edit* Looks like Whitmarsh is saying the exact thing here. Note: i would not say that your own boss talking like this is a good indication that Hamilton would want to continue to be at that team!
Last edited by kfzmeister; 06-25-2012 at 01:43 PM.
Originally Posted by Seb Vettel, Monaco 2013
Really?....then why don't you quit flappin' your jaw about the tires??
I had a good argument with one of my co-workers. I was taking the stance of saying that if you are racing against someone who is a real contender for championship at the moment (marginally ahead in standings and in the top 2-3 positions just a few points away from one another). IF you are going to pass, and as you said, it was inevitable on the next lap, give the guy ahead a bit of respect and make sure that if you end up passing you make it a clean and fair attempt, none of this borderline stuff. Didn't maldenado try it in china once and had to back off after? (forgot the race it was, maybe it was kimi on alonso).
Regardless, I was taking the stance of saying to give some respect and be careful. My bud had a great point, everyone is out there fighting their own races, for their own survival in a team or just to show progress. So its a tight balance, an up and coming driver having a chance to battle it out with a world champ. I have to admit, would have probably tried the same even if it may have resulted in drama, that in the chance it would have stuck, you'd come out as a star (think vettel passing on the grass) - and if not, I can always blame myself for being overly eager or trying to show my team that I can pull my own weight.
I still think its wrong, and maldenado pushed to much but thats obvious being a hamilton fan - the comments from whitmarsh do seem harsh ... "push, you can beat alsono and take a win" was just said a few laps earlier to now "you should have given up the position" - its easy in hindsight to make those statements but for him to publicly throw his driver under the bus, a tad too much.
Sure Whitmasrch started by saying this:
He followed it up with this:Originally Posted by Whitmarsh
In the middle he said that Hammie defended the exact same way with both Lotus drivers and they seemed to understand the rules of racing.Originally Posted by Whitmarsh
It didn't sound like he threw him under the bus...
Ie he was being led into this response by the question asked.Originally Posted by Whitmarsh
He further stated the following...
It seems to me like Maldonado is getting a rep around the paddocks.Originally Posted by Whitmarsh
Hey if you paid any attention to moldonado's earlier career including a lifetime ban in Monaco that was lifted from big $$ coming from Venezuela and then this year during the lead up to Monaco his retaliative chop on Perez.. but wtf that's just my view right lol.
lol... in my "opinion" webber had completely closed up and was read to seal the deal at that point in the race but hey you view it as you want and I'll have my opinion... and I don't think we will see much more from Schumacher imo.
I was actually at this race. Valencia, apart from the area near the track, is very beautiful. We actually ran into Anthony Edwards in a restaurant after quali. He said Frank Williams is a huge Top Gun fan and was going to be having dinner w/ Mark Webber that evening. The race was actually eventful, and hot as hell. A woman heat stroked next to my mate. I had to wear a wet towel over my head the entire time. It's pretty nuts how much the Spaniards hate Hamilton. I have a pic of a ceramic Hammie taking a dump, that a store was selling. Couldn't have scripted the race better w/ Alonso actually winning while Spain advanced to the Euro final.