CCW Holders - What do you carry?

[2.FOH!!]

Yea revolvers are all about staging the trigger until you get good with them to the point it is not really needed unless you are trying for great accuracy. I can empty a snubby at 7 yards as fast as I can, and there will be 5 holes in the target. All about practice.

Long trigger pulls are the name of the game when you are talking double action revolvers.

On the bright side, it makes my M&P9's trigger feel positively hair like.

[SmithersSP]

Glock19.

[Elbows]

In 60-90 days I'll be carrying my PPQ, until I find an alternative small piece to accompany it - perhaps an M&P Shield or something.

The PPQ is fine, but does not conceal very well under light clothing (ie. sandals and t-shirt weather)

[Dreizehn]

[nismo4life]

In 60-90 days I'll be carrying my PPQ, until I find an alternative small piece to accompany it - perhaps an M&P Shield or something.

The PPQ is fine, but does not conceal very well under light clothing (ie. sandals and t-shirt weather)

I agree. In the summer I typically wear thin shorts and a belt line length t shirt. If I happen to bend over my gun ends up showing and the shirt will get caught behind the slide. Since CT allows Open Carry I've started not carrying if it happens. Wearing slim fit jeans though is a bit more comfortable since it gives more support for the gun to stay where it is against your body but damn is it tight >.< I hate being fat.

[turbo mike]

Glock 23 off duty with a blackhawk serpa holster, S&W M&P 40 on duty. Both weapons fit in the blackhawk holster which help. **** winchester ranger ammo in every weapon I've owned. No issues here. I have been looking for a small framed off duty weapon. I'd like to retain 40cal but in a smaller frame.

[vr6Cop]

Glock 23 off duty with a blackhawk serpa holster, S&W M&P 40 on duty. Both weapons fit in the blackhawk holster which help. **** winchester ranger ammo in every weapon I've owned. No issues here. I have been looking for a small framed off duty weapon. I'd like to retain 40cal but in a smaller frame.

Be very careful with the Serpa. Our whole agency is transitioning to different holsters after having the Serpas for a few years. They can fail pretty easily, especially if a little rock or something gets in the release, such as if you are rolling around on the ground in a fight.

Also, because of the way the mechanism works, there have been several instances of officers shooting themselves or other negligent discharges due to the trigger finger going into the trigger. You can see how that can happen.

I love my two Serpa holsters, but just wanted to pass along the info.

[2002]

Now, in light of what happened in Co, I'm wondering if my G19 (that i've carried since 2008) is strong enough for a daily CCW or if I should switch to G23/G27 in a 40.

What defensive loads does everyone use in their 9mm?

[BHB]

Man, i question if some of the guns in this thread actually ever get carried? Some awfully clean guns in here. Or maybe i'm just used to being around working guns.

What defensive loads does everyone use in their 9mm?

Golden Saber.

[Foxtrot]

The Bersa is a good carry weapon, but the grip design is a bit thick for me. I still carry it on occasion.

Picked up my Bersa T380 monday. Need to get some range time with it now. Will post pictures later, but everybody has seen one I'm sure.

As far as defensive rounds. Both my 9mm and the new .380 have Cor-Bon JHP loaded in them.

EDIT here's the pics...

[Dreizehn]

I carry my Kimber 1911 with Hornady Critical Defense.

In my HK P30S 9mm, I carry Federal Personal Defense.

[2002]

D, that p30s is pretty

[CO Boy]

Now, in light of what happened in Co, I'm wondering if my G19 (that i've carried since 2008) is strong enough for a daily CCW or if I should switch to G23/G27 in a 40.

What defensive loads does everyone use in their 9mm?

Speer Gold Dot 124gr

[Dreizehn]

[2002]

Thinking about stepping my G19 up to a Glock 23 or a Glock 27 (.40 sw versus 9mm).

I honestly think that in 99% of cases the 9mm will be able to handle anything that arises but in rare cases of a nut wearing a full bullet proof uniform the 9mm would feel like a pesky paintball gun. I think, although the 40 wouldn't penetrate, it would take a lot more wind out of you if you 15 shots showered all over you with that as opposed to a 9mm. I don't see many people carrying much longer than a 9mm... Rationale everyone?

Pics for reference. I this 19.

[Power5]

You don't usually get 15 shots with a .40 only with 9mm or smaller. That said, any hand gun ammo is not going to take down a determined assailant in armor. You have a chance of knocking him off balance but that's about it. At least from the videos I have seen of the big time shootouts against armies of police using AR-15s even.

[Dreizehn]

I love my Kimber .45, which will hold 7+1. But I'd rather carry my 9mm HK (15+1) because of its capacity.

[2002]

I agree. That's where I'm torn... My Glock 19 (9mm) hold 15+1 and the Glock 23 (40 Sw) has an identical frame size and also holds 15+1

Guess I need to go out there and shoot it and see how I like it.

I should get a weight comparison.

[Elbows]

Guys, there is little need to go dumping your handguns in the search for .40's. I'd particularly avoid the .40 Glocks (just about the only Glocks people ever had problems with).

Stick with what you can shoot well. Any decent soft body armour will stop everything up to a .44 mag. Even a "puny" .380 auto etc. will put a serious hurt on someone wearing armor. Put plenty of 9mm into someone wearing that soft armour, break some ribs, knock em down...shoot em in the head.

Regarding 9mm, stick with Gold Sabers or Speer Gold Dots in the 124-grain size. I also occasionally like to run Hornady Critical Defense, but it's light recoil and isn't on the level of Gold Dots. Hornady has recently released Critical Duty as well in 9mm and .40 etc. That's a hell of a round. However it's made to penetrate, so maybe not the best self-defense round.

[Cabrio60]

I'm carrying Winchester PDX1 124 gr +P in the Ruger SR9c and Remington 125 gr JHPs in .357 for the Security Six.

[NoDubJustYet]

I carried Gold Dots, Rangers, or Golden Sabers in my P239 9mm... seems to be more than adequate assuming you put the rounds where it counts.

Don't worry about the caliber - worry about practice and becoming familiar with your firearm.

[BHB]

Don't worry about the caliber - worry about practice and becoming familiar with your firearm.

This cannot be stressed enough.

[compy222]

Don't worry about the caliber - worry about practice and becoming familiar with your firearm.

amen.

any modern caliber, 9mm, 40s+w, .357sig/mag, .38spl, 45acp, 10mm, will work if you put bullets on target.

[Elbows]

And, good effective defense ammunition is another HUGE factor. Much of the nonsense .45 vs. 9mm arguments stem from the military, which by international accord (Hague?) must use ball-ammunition, so as to not cause undue suffering (ie. you die slower...).

As a civilian you are not restricted. Buy quality defensive ammunition. Federal Hydrashoks, Speer Gold Dots, Winchester Ranger JHP stuff, Hornady Critical Defense, etc.

Ammunition can make a gigantic difference. While ball ammunition may kill someone dead, you up your chances by about 70% with a quality hollow-point or defensive round.

This is a pretty popular image which is posted around on many sites. It shows the shockingly similar result of ballistics gelatin tests between the "normal" handgun rounds, when firing a decent JHP round.



*Note: You'll see that the 147 grain 9mm is about the worst of the bunch shown. This seems to match up with what a lot of very knowledgeable folks say. At 147 grains you're starting to slow the 9mm a bit too much. Seems like those in the know find the 124 grain stuff to be the "sweet point" of the 9mm cartridge.

While there is a difference, it's not "OMG, nothing will stop like a .45!" nonsense. .380, 9mm, and .45 have all been around for over 100 years and have killed, I'd imagine...millions of people. Definitely use whatever you can handle quickly, confidently, and shoot accurately under stress. And if you run several guns at about the same proficiency, stick with whatever has more ammo.

[CruznMalibu]

Also have S&W 9mm Semi-Auto

I love the revolver and know it'll fire 100% of the time if needed.

[NickWVU]

Love it, but I want something smaller for next summer.

[Infamous1.8TWB]

This is what I carry. S&W Bodyguard 380