Now THAT is good metal buckling!
Just needs a little bondo and some fresh paint!
A lot of work but is repairable. They will shore up the aircraft and remove the skins on the top side that wrinkled, splice in stringer sections were stringers were buckled and then inspect for damage from the nose gear back to the center wing. The repaired aircraft will be as strong or stronger than than the aircraft was before the incident.
You absolutely can (and should) go around after that kind of bounce. It'll touch back down as the motors spool, but that's not a big deal; you'll avoid the nose slam, which is undoubtedly what caused the damage.
Big thing about the -300 is not adding forward pressure, even on a normal touchdown. You'll get a slight pitch up moment as the spoilers come out, but that only requires you to let out some back pressure. Landing the nose generally requires light back pressure, nothing forward of neutral. Strong forward pressure can cause forward fuselage damage, even after touching the mains down normally.
Practicing wheel landings for my tail wheel endorsement found me going around a few times after touching down and having a wicked bounce
I've also heard of airliners shooting CAT II/III approaches, going missed, and having the wheels touch down due to the low minimums and spool up/reaction time.
In the crazy French contraption that I fly, you release all pressure on the stick on touchdown and the 'derotation program' eases in a little down elevator and brings the nose down with a thunk.Originally Posted by unreal
Very strange. It's smoother if you ease in a little forward stick after the mains make contact, then pull back a teenie weenie bit just as the nosewheel touches. Silly fly-by-wire airplane.
And yeah, once you decide to go around, you commit and go.
If it's not foggy
and you have your fog lights on
you are a doofus.
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Lets put it this way...if he went around but touched down and something on the mains broke, he'd get razzed a lot at work, and probably be flying in a couple of days, case you're right, winds can just screw you. After this though, if he still has a job, i guarantee he has a simulator date for a EP ride/checkride (I dunno what the civilian side guys do/call it), and is sitting nowhere but a jump seat.
Last edited by yz1337; 06-26-2012 at 08:31 AM.
The 777 might do something similar, but I like my old manual Boeing. I was telling a couple of our company 777 pilots how everything in the 767 is connected to something via cables and hydraulic actuators. Hell, even the thrust levers connect to a hydromechanical fuel control; they feel beefy and take a good push to move. I think they were drooling a little bit. Real airplanes for the win!
Anyway, Japan can get pretty dicey. I landed the aircraft type in question in Japan a few months back with a 35-40 knot crosswind and moderate turbulence down final; I was spring loaded to go around, but the turbulence settled out enough to put it down safely. The airplane is very stable, but the physics work the same as anything else. Just a bad day for this crew.
Last edited by unreal; 06-26-2012 at 07:08 PM.