Female legislature 'booted' for saying 'vagina'

[ncsumecheng]

http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/21/opinio...html?hpt=hp_c1

The religious right at it again, you make fiscal conservatives look bad!

[ModestGirl]

You know this happened last week right? Vaginas get no love around here.

[TheDarkEnergist]

Vaginas get no love around here.

This is the real injustice. Vaginas are the best things ever.

[Yo Teach]

Headline: Male lawmakers in Michigan don't like vaginas.

[Egilbe]

This is the real injustice. Vaginas are the best things ever.

[compy222]

i guess referencing your own private parts is unacceptable.

[Katie-S]

Grown men flipping out over the word "vagina"
I'm embarrassed for America sometimes.

[butterface]

She wasn't booted for saying the word vagina. She was booted for her sarcasm and disrespect towards the institution and those who may disagree with her. That's fine for TV show sound bites and getting Maddow's panties (boxers?) moist, but using that kind of bull**** 'gotcha!' language in a legislative session will get you reprimanded. Period.

It should and does work both ways.

[TheDarkEnergist]

She wasn't booted for saying the word vagina. She was booted for her sarcasm and disrespect towards the institution and those who may disagree with her. That's fine for TV show sound bites and getting Maddow's panties (boxers?) moist, but using that kind of bull**** 'gotcha!' language in a legislative session will get you reprimanded. Period.

It should and does work both ways.

It'd be nice if sheer stupidity and ignorance was met with the same type of reaction, but it isn't.

[vwtool]

i'm just curious how it would look if a male (republican) state representative stood up to the podium and made a statement referencing his own penis having rights in an abortion debate.

I'm curious how it would look if we ever had an adult conversation about abortion in this country. Looks like it won't be any time soon.

[BRealistic]

It'd be nice if sheer stupidity and ignorance was met with the same type of reaction, but it isn't.

Like shouting 'you lie!' While the president is speaking to the House of Representatives?

I read the linked article.
I saw nothing about sarcasm or disrespect.
It comes across like it suggests- a male dominated group trying to shut a vocal woman regarding women's issues.

[vwtool]

She wasn't booted for saying the word vagina. She was booted for her sarcasm and disrespect towards the institution and those who may disagree with her...

Uh huh.

Cue it up to 1:40

I have not asked you to adopt and adhere to my religious beliefs; why are you asking me to adopt yours? And finally, Mr. Speaker, I'm flattered that you're all so interested in my vagina, but no means no.

[compy222]

I'm curious how it would look if we ever had an adult conversation about abortion in this country. Looks like it won't be any time soon.

i would say that her words were unprofessional. you can't reference your own private parts in front of 100+ other legislators.

[butterface]

Like shouting 'you lie!' While the president is speaking to the House of Representatives?

Which resulted in a formal rebuke from said House. What's your point?

[Preppy]

This is the real injustice. Vaginas are the best things ever.

Y'know... as a horny hetero male, I gotta agree.
But you have to admit, vaginas are pretty gross.

[Chris Stack]

That's why I call it a snatch.

[BRealistic]

Which resulted in a formal rebuke from said House. What's your point?

Oh.. I did not know since it didn't happen instantly.
So it seems such punishment worthy actions are open for wide interpretation.

And I thought that heckling was obviously disrespectful.
But the representative in question had the floor.
Good thing she didn't mention anybody named Dick.

[compy222]

So it seems such punishment worthy actions are open for wide interpretation.

every legislature operates differently, even between the houses and senates there are differences. often times in houses the majority party runs the whole show, there is often zero contributions from the minority party. sometimes never being allowed to speak (as a caucus) on anything at all.

[barry2952]

Oh.. I did not know since it didn't happen instantly.
So it seems such punishment worthy actions are open for wide interpretation.

And I thought that heckling was obviously disrespectful.
But the representative in question had the floor.
Good thing she didn't mention anybody named Dick.

We had a politician name Richard Posthumus. Made me laugh.

[Preppy]

We had a politician name Richard Posthumus. Made me laugh.

Guess he said everything after he was dead?

[TheDarkEnergist]

Like shouting 'you lie!' While the president is speaking to the House of Representatives?

Yup. One of the outbursts that I had had in mind.

[butterface]

Uh huh.

Cue it up to 1:40

Yeah, um, so "no means no" is innuendo for a woman's response to sexual aggression and rape. That she used it in this context is absurd and akin to suggesting that her ideological adversaries are diddling her against her will. She deserved what she got.

[Katie-S]

What I really want to know is what the three guys in the background are yukking it up about?
1:51... Back there making dick jokes....

[Aonarch]

Headline: Male lawmakers in Michigan don't like vaginas.

[vwtool]

Yeah, um, so "no means no" is innuendo for a woman's response to sexual aggression and rape. That she used it in this context is absurd and akin to suggesting that her ideological adversaries are diddling her against her will....

Good point. Clueless, middle-aged dudes think it's entirely reasonable that they should have control over women's reproductive functions. I think likening it to rape is a bit extreme, but overall, I'm inclined to agree with you for once.

She deserved what she got.

Wait, wait....


....because she was asking for it!??

[Uberhare]

Pics of said "vagina"??

[butterface]

Good point. Clueless, middle-aged dudes think it's entirely reasonable that they should have control over women's reproductive functions.

Ah. The fallacy that all women support abortion, and that all female legislators support abortion. You're usually (a little) better than that.

Gender Agreement

A year ago, Gallup found more women calling themselves pro-choice than pro-life, by 50% to 43%, while men were more closely divided: 49% pro-choice, 46% pro-life. Now, because of heightened pro-life sentiment among both groups, women as well as men are more likely to be pro-life.

Men and women have been evenly divided on the issue in previous years; however, this is the first time in nine years of Gallup Values surveys that significantly more men and women are pro-life than pro-choice.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/118399/mo...irst-time.aspx

Wait, wait....


....because she was asking for it!??

****. Is it too late for me to blame that on Freud?

[peoples_car]

That's why I call it a snatch.

Axe Wound is my preferred name for those special few days

[spockcat]

Uh huh.

Cue it up to 1:40

This is a pretty crude, condescending remark in what should be a very professional setting if you ask me.

And finally, Mr. Speaker, I'm flattered that you're all so interested in my vagina, but no means no.

[Hostile]

This is a pretty crude, condescending remark in what should be a very professional setting if you ask me.

True, but it's not as condescending as a bunch of crusty old white men, who aren't medical doctors, deciding the future of women's reproductive health.

[.LSinLV.]

True, but it's not as condescending as a bunch of crusty old white men, who aren't medical doctors, deciding the future of women's reproductive health.

THIS.

[vwtool]

Ah. The fallacy that all women support abortion, and that all female legislators support abortion. You're usually (a little) better than that.

No doubt, but a few exceptions don't disprove a general rule, do they? If so, someone should alert the insurance industry immediately!

****. Is it too late for me to blame that on Freud?

You teed that one up REAL good.

True, but it's not as condescending as a bunch of crusty old white men, who aren't medical doctors, and whose knowledge on the matter was gleaned from a random collection of parables left by illiterate shepherds, deciding the future of women's reproductive health.

Couldn't resist

THIS.

Times eleventeenbillions!

[butterface]

No doubt, but a few exceptions don't disprove a general rule, do they? If so, someone should alert the insurance industry immediately!

A few exceptions? Like, over half of women in 2009 being pro-life according to Gallup? This also appears to be trending upward. Since we have a representative republic, those 'clueless, middle aged dudes' might just be representing a majority of their female constituents. Who knew?

[rbloedow]

A few exceptions? Like, over half of women in 2009 being pro-life according to Gallup? This also appears to be trending upward. Since we have a representative republic, those 'clueless, middle aged dudes' might just be representing a majority of their female constituents. Who knew?

Such a tired argument - we are also a constitutional republic, and the SCOTUS has ruled that regardless if you believe that abortions should be illegal, you don't have the right to prevent a women from reasonably obtaining one.

These tools are looking for every way conceivable to circumvent the the ruling, using every avenue possible to restrict access. This is shameful.

If you don't want an abortion - don't have one. It's as simple as that.

[butterface]

Such a tired argument - we are also a constitutional republic, and the SCOTUS has ruled that regardless if you believe that abortions should be illegal, you don't have the right to prevent a women from reasonably obtaining one.

Well ****. Since its that simple, and since 'reasonably obtaining one' doesn't suggest any nuance, I suppose we've wasted the last 40 years debating such a cut and dry all encompassing legal precedent.

These tools are looking for every way conceivable to circumvent the the ruling, using every avenue possible to restrict access.

Oh noes! Legislators are doing their job being an equal branch of government! I am outraged by their hubris!