BMW X1 Now on BMW USA Website - NO MANUAL OPTION WTFBBQ!!!!!

[SchnellFowVay]

http://www.bmwusa.com/standard/conte...1/default.aspx


There she is folks. The price seems right (the sport packaged RWD model is $32k, $34k for AWD), BUT NO MANUAL OPTION.

So I guess the Countryman is the only way to get a German small SUV with a manual transmission.

I HOPE TO GOD that the new 3-series wagon has an available 6-speed.

[someguy123]

Americans...............always late to the party.

[todras]

How many people would spend that much on a small manual SUV? Mazda & Ford could barely give away the Mazda Tributes and Escapes with manual trans.

[ShavedFace]

Don't get me wrong, I'm a manual guy... But on the SUVs and what not, it doesn't bother me that there isn't an available manual option. The dual clutch transmissions that are available nowadays are pretty cool. Honestly, I don't find the X1 appealing aesthetically, to me at least. Still cool though, rep the 1ers.

[bzcat]

http://www.bmwusa.com/standard/conte...1/default.aspx


There she is folks. The price seems right (the sport packaged RWD model is $32k, $34k for AWD), BUT NO MANUAL OPTION.

So I guess the Countryman is the only way to get a German small SUV with a manual transmission.

I HOPE TO GOD that the new 3-series wagon has an available 6-speed.

I wouldn't call Countryman a SUV unless Honda Fit is also a SUV...

But to your main point, SUV buyers don't want manual

As long as the 3 series wagon comes with a manual I think that will placate the mob.

[personman]

So I guess the Countryman is the only way to get a German small SUV with a manual transmission.

Tiguan?

[SchnellFowVay]

Tiguan?

Only base FWD Tiquan comes with manual.

You can't even get a sunroof. It's sad.

[SchnellFowVay]

Don't get me wrong, I'm a manual guy... But on the SUVs and what not, it doesn't bother me that there isn't an available manual option. The dual clutch transmissions that are available nowadays are pretty cool. Honestly, I don't find the X1 appealing aesthetically, to me at least. Still cool though, rep the 1ers.

I tend to agree. But don't forget, all, the X1 is based on the 1-series. It isn't much bigger than the Countryman.

If Mini can sell a manual Countryman, isn't it at least plausible that BMW may have offered a manual? Hell, they already have a manual transmission in their parts bin to use (both of my 1-series have Manuals).

THey sell a manual X1 in Germany.

I am just disappointed because I was hoping a manual AWD 2.0t BMW X1 would be the next wifemobile to use when we have our first child.

I am going to hold out for a manual 2013 328i wagon, but if that's not available, then it's the Countryman, I think.

[dirtyfingers]

Two comments:

First, this might be false but doesn't each engine/transmission configuration cost $1million or something to get EPA certified? This is probably false but might play into it.

Second, I understand manual transmission is a very hard sell - but there is no reason to punish the fans. Ok, don't make it a regular model but make it something that can be special ordered from the factory.

[SchnellFowVay]

Two comments:

First, this might be false but doesn't each engine/transmission configuration cost $1million or something to get EPA certified? This is probably false but might play into it.

Second, I understand manual transmission is a very hard sell - but there is no reason to punish the fans. Ok, don't make it a regular model but make it something that can be special ordered from the factory.

You are obviously correct about the cost.

I am hoping that it can be ordered manual. The current 5-series does not show manual as an option, but it can be ordered.

Maybe it's the same for the new X1. You would be an idiot not to custom-order a BMW anyway (given that all BMWs sitting on dealer lots -- at least around here -- have a minimum of $15,000 of options included on them), so I will stop by the dealer and ask.

[arethirdytwo]

Over this manual only crap. I almost only own manual vehicles but for normal drivers just get over it. Our CRV is auto and much better that way. My buddy has a newer MT Camry, such a stupid car. Why would you want a MT X1? "Waaaaaa I get 20 MPG better than the auto" "Waaaaa it ruins the experience" Dude get the f uck over it.

I'd wager to say that 90% of drivers cant drive a MT. Consider the amount of traffic in the world, most people have no need. Rush hour in a MT seriously sucks. So remind me again why they should offer a MT? Because some douche bag on the internet complains about it? Hell I am a douche bag on the internet and even I have gotten over it.

[1Point8TDan]

I searched for a AWD CUV/SUV with manual and there are none to be had in N. America...

Even the B8 A4 Avants you can't have with manual.

[Turbio!]

So I guess the Countryman is the only way to get a German small SUV with a manual transmission.
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To be honest, I'm not sure why that's a problem. Enthusiast-oriented cars should and largely do have manuals. Crossovers are oriented towards luxury buyers.

[clutchrider]

BMW X1

240 horsepower
2.0-liter, TwinPower Turbo, inline 4-cylinder engine
Rear-wheel drive
STARTING AT
$30,650 MSRP

Take note! When was the last time BMW offered a BRAND NEW car for this price. The 28Xdrive version is only another $2k but the 35X is a whopping $6k over that. Although you get a 300hp turbo, should have just made that one the X1M.

I'm still shocked at the base price.

[Stereodude]

There she is folks. The price seems right (the sport packaged RWD model is $32k, $34k for AWD), BUT NO MANUAL OPTION.

So this is going to impact the 9 people who would have bought the X1 if it came with a manual trans but won't with an auto? I'm sure BMW is terribly distraught.

[warren_s]

I tend to agree. But don't forget, all, the X1 is based on the 1-series. It isn't much bigger than the Countryman.

That's not quite right..... the X1 is based on the 3-series Touring platform -- same wheelbase, etc.

[MAGICGTI]

Absolutely love the X1! I'll think about it when it comes time to shuffle cars, think it would replace both cars with ease. Hopefully they do a nice employee lease but doubt it with the popularity.

[mr_e1974]

"VERSATILITY HAS NEVER LOOKED THIS GOOD." THAT looks good? They must have really been drinkin ALOT of to come up with that FALSE marketing scheme.

[feels_road]

BMW X1

240 horsepower
2.0-liter, TwinPower Turbo, inline 4-cylinder engine
Rear-wheel drive
STARTING AT
$30,650 MSRP

Take note! When was the last time BMW offered a BRAND NEW car for this price. The 28Xdrive version is only another $2k but the 35X is a whopping $6k over that. Although you get a 300hp turbo, should have just made that one the X1M.

I'm still shocked at the base price.

Yeah, but the 35i with AWD and heated leather seats is $43,795...

And the 28i with heated leather seats (no HIDs) is $37,845. And 240 hp in a heavy car like this and with AWD drive train loss isn't really all that much.

[NoDubJustYet]

So, to have the privilege of purchasing HID headlights with your car you must first purchase a $4000 package and then spend another $1000 on the HIDs?

It's likemthismon the 3er too. What happened to a la carte options?

[Oliver@triplezoom]

Love that you can get it in Valencia orange.

[Smoltz]

Yeah, but the 35i with AWD and heated leather seats is $43,795...

And the 28i with heated leather seats (no HIDs) is $37,845. And 240 hp in a heavy car like this and with AWD drive train loss isn't really all that much.

You can order leather seats and heated seats as standalone options, so $35,195 with just those two options.

Options definitely add up fast, although it appears to be a bit cheaper than a comparably equipped 3er touring.

[302W]

Who gives a sh!t, it's a cute ute that car enthusiasts wouldn't be caught dead in. Goddamn, the people bitching about manuals have gotten as bad as the damn diesel fanboys. Crying about cars that 3 people would buy if made.

[clutchrider]

Yeah, but the 35i with AWD and heated leather seats is $43,795...

And the 28i with heated leather seats (no HIDs) is $37,845. And 240 hp in a heavy car like this and with AWD drive train loss isn't really all that much.

Typical BMW structuring. The base model is the new "poor mans BMW" in a way. Although most every BMW to me in it's base form is the poor version. Pay a premium for luxury then pay more on top of that premium for options that I feel should be standard on a car in this class. HID's, leather, heated seats should all come with the car regardless. If you want cloth, it should be an ordered item (not more necessarily, but something not carried normally). Even though I know Acura is not classed with BMW, they offer a lot for the money for a quasi-luxury car. You get those items mentioned standard on every model regardless.

You can buy a BMW for X dollars, but your not REALLY getting a BMW unless you spend XXX dollars.

[Oliver@triplezoom]

Typical BMW structuring. The base model is the new "poor mans BMW" in a way. Although most every BMW to me in it's base form is the poor version. Pay a premium for luxury then pay more on top of that premium for options that I feel should be standard on a car in this class. HID's, leather, heated seats should all come with the car regardless. If you want cloth, it should be an ordered item (not more necessarily, but something not carried normally). Even though I know Acura is not classed with BMW, they offer a lot for the money for a quasi-luxury car. You get those items mentioned standard on every model regardless.

The X1 doesn't have cloth, it has leatherette (like most lower end BMWs). Most people can't tell the difference between leatherette and leather anyways. And some prefer leatherette.

[MAGICGTI]

The X1 doesn't have cloth, it has leatherette (like most lower end BMWs). Most people can't tell the difference between leatherette and leather anyways. And some prefer leatherette.

Ehh leatherette is too grippy, doesn't breathe, and wears worse than leather on the newer ones. Leather is a no-brainer.

[Jrod511]

You have to load up an M Sport x35i with a bunch of packages to be the same price as my 1999 528i was. Interesting.

A base model lightly optioned looks like a good bargain.

[mikes96GTI]

John Q Public here in America doesn't want them, so why bring them here? I have seen a HANDFUL of manual E53 X5's, and E83 X'3 in my career at BMW that started 15 years ago (before the X5 was even out). people threw a fit with the E60 M5 and E63 M6 about no manual option, so BMW built it, and was rewarded with hardly any sales. They are super rare, as nobody really ordered one. My guess is BMW wasn't going to get fooled again. Its a damn shame though. Some of us like to row gears, and like knowing we have a reliable transmission in our cars, that if it shifts like ****, its our own fault......

[Buckeye(OH)]

I just saw one here the other day in Toledo. I guess we live close enough to Canada.

I am leaving for France in about a week or so, ironically, the X1 is the only vehicle big enough for four people and suitcases available with an automatic trans (none of the other drivers can drive a stick). I will have a fair amount of time behind the wheel including city driving as well as a fairly long interstate drive. Impressions to follow.

[JLJetta]

Call me a heretic. Except for some very niche offroading, give me an automatic with torque converter anyday.

But then again, I doubt no one driving an X1 will actually use it for offroading. :-/

[2VWatatime]

BMW X1 Now on BMW USA Website - NO MANUAL OPTION!!!! ALL THREE POTENTIAL BUYERS UPSET!!!!!

fify...

[koko12]

BMW X1

240 horsepower
2.0-liter, TwinPower Turbo, inline 4-cylinder engine
Rear-wheel drive
STARTING AT
$30,650 MSRP

That's a great starting price. The only letdown is the lack of a manual transmission, but for 95% of buyers that won't be an issue.

[TJSwoboda]

So the X3 gets one, but not the X1? Wat?

[TigerinColorado]

Just built a loaded to the gills xdrive35i...almost $50,000 before any accessories.

[what]

Only base FWD Tiquan comes with manual.

You can't even get a sunroof. It's sad.

According to VW's website, you're incorrect. You can get a Tiguan S with sunroof and a stick.

edit:

not if you build one. So, it is unclear if you can get an S with a sunroof and a stick.