What does this mean for us not informed in suspension setups? I'm just used to going with the most popular full coilovers systems.
Got it! I was also loving the choice and implementation of the Mag Ride and was wondering why people were not happy with it on the TTRS.
Although I find that I might be with the .1% that will enjoy the hard ride as I am used to a hard track prepped suspension on my DD without concern. Ill let ya know how I feel about it after I drive it off the lot on Tuesday. Glad to know though, if I am not enjoying it, there are options while keeping the tech and the MagRide.
Thank you for the review.
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agreed what you quote are RRP or street prices of the kits.
What I quoted are for fitted kits thus includes labour charge. I reckon a descent shop will need a total of a day to fit and adjust the kits over a period of time. Thus, fit & setup (includes corner weight & geo/alignment) is realistically 2-hours per corner in labour charge (that includes any fine tuning required over the days/weeks and in some cases months post fitment).
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I have had 2 sets of KW V3's on a MKIV R32 and a 2006 A3 FWD. and i had a set of AST4200's on a 2008 FWD, and i have to say, as much as i loved the KW V3's, the AST's were an awesome suspension and really retained a lot of the ride quality.
you can't go wrong with either of those IMO, but this for retaining the magnetic ride is pretty cool.
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Offcourse, the "proof is in the pudding" as the saying goes hence I booked a trackday to look at lap times - not that that sort of thing makes a difference from my perspective though it is good to give a more rounded view I guess.
I personally think those who take off MagneRide and fit aftermarket C/O are missing a trick...I can ride in utter comfort and at a press of a button have a pretty stiff 500Ibs spring rate. What is there not to like...!!!
Thx for reading and if only I could get you over here to sample the car...hmm, what a shame you are over there.
1) Car is more stable under hard acceleration or hard braking.
2) Ride comfort is improved on MagneRide hard or softer settings.
3) Car does not get unsettled over rough tarmac like before.
4) Cornering turn-in is sharper as the car just goes in to bends with slight turn of the steering wheel exhibiting better composure and with the suspension settling down quicker in the cornering phase compared to before. Very noticeable improvement indeed.
5) Car feels more planted compared to before.
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Only 2 people have tested the car through all the 4 stages of suspension developments as follows...;
- Eibach Pro-kit lowered springs;
- V1 triple rated kit;
- v2 triple rated kit.
The 2 people are as follows...;
- yours truly...well, it is my car after all...!!!
- my tuner...he was keen to sell me KW Clubsport once upon a time...not anymore.
All I can tell you is that at the time I bought the car back in 2009 I had 2x Italian V8s and another Italian V12. The TTRS had a tough act to follow in matching those cars in the areas that interests me most...handling at various speeds and on track.
What I have today is a TTRS that can easily stay with any of those cars on any roads and I suspect on track.
Yes, it is subjective I guess however anyone who owns a MagneRide equipped car would be better off fitting well matched springs before opting for a C/O kit. The stock springs are not well suited to the MagneRide dampers for spirited street driving or track use. They are however fab for 'normal' road use and daily driving.
What I can tell you about MagneRide implementation is as follows...;
Range Rover Evoque
Audi TT - TDI; TFSI models
Audi TT-RS - Audi spring and algorithm mismatch is to be blamed. Basically, the dampers need better matched springs for the algorithm settled upon. The dampers are no different to that fitted to the TTS however they support more weight all round.
Ferrari California - though newer algorithm works better.
On the stock spring rates...I never found that info however I would hazard a guess and say the rears are between 18/Nmm to a MAX of 30N/mm. That is too soft anyway...!
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Thx John ref Toyo T1 Sport.
I have put two more PS2s on the rears. Am getting rears wearing quicker than fronts post all the suspension work and I suspect coupled with the Haldex Race only controller...mine is definitely a RWD biased car if the rear tyre wear rate is anything to go by...!.
I reckon am shedding tyres at a rate of 15k miles on fronts and 12k miles on rears - these offcourse include time on track.
Great stuff. my only changes are Neuspeed anti sway bars so far. What about the springs in the MkII TT 3.2? I'm not convinced coil overs are for me and this sounds like a good fit if needed.
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As you can see from my work on the suspension, I 2nd your views on C/O kit...not always the better option certainly if the car is equipped with a semi-active damper such as MagneRide. A spring kit could also be a better option even for a stock non-active 'cheapo' damper and I will explain...
Think of a spring kit as a quality speaker system. Some of the better sound speakers have a driver dedicated to play a certain frequency thus subwoofer; mids; tweeters. When a speaker is configured this way and provided it is matched to a descent adjustable crossover and powered by a descent amp the sound can be very pleasant and accurate.
So a spring system is exactly that thus think of the damper as an amp and the spring kit as the subwoofer; mids; tweeters dedicated to acting in a range they are best suited.
The spring kit I pulled together acts from soft; firm to very hard...and due to the arrangement this allows the damper to not work too hard thus the ride is really very nice – no, it is not a Rolls Royce – however the ride comfort is surprising to those who see the car and how low it sits then when being driven around are surprised how supple the ride is...
On track the car is just perfect with a suspension that firms up in corners with no roll...
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