Exhaust

[tar32]

I know this has been asked many times but I'm just trying to get opinions. Looking to get a new exhaust for the R. Besides the sound, which is always a personal preference, what's better between milltek, magnaflow and borla? I'm on a budget so that's why I picked them.

[afunnysmell]

Miltek > Borla > Magnaflow.

I personally have a Borla resonated currently and I couldn't be happier. This was after switching from a Magnaflow non-res. I've heard nothing but good things about Miltek's product.

[ssR32]

And I have magnaflow non-resonated and absolutely love it. It is very loud which I enjoy but may be distasteful to others. I bought it cost effectively but I honestly love all three just came down to cost at this time.

[tar32]

Miltek > Borla > Magnaflow.

I personally have a Borla resonated currently and I couldn't be happier. This was after switching from a Magnaflow non-res. I've heard nothing but good things about Miltek's product.

Yea I was going towards Borla, which I've heard good things about. Other then the exhaust note is there really much difference between them?

[Saabstory02]

If you are on a budget, search "Tampa Mod" as it will sound just as good and cost you ~$150 instead of ~$600

None of these will add any measurable power so all you are changing is sound anyway. Tampa mod gives you that and costs 1/3 the price

[Slave IV]

The main thing about exhaust is flow. Generally, the bigger the pipes, the more flow. Milltek uses a 2.75" pipe while most others are 2.5", and it is also one of the only catbacks to show gains on a dyno (minimal). The only other option I know of that uses even larger pipes and has shown gains is the scorpion at 3". There is an issue of too much flow causing not enough back pressure on NA engines but again, the two options with larger pipes in our case are the only ones to show any consistent gains. Overall, the gains are so little that to me, it's pointless. If you want more noise or just better looking tips, look into the Tampa mod as mentioned already.

[foreverblue]

I prefer Borla, sounds great and has little drone.

[red16vdub]

BORLA gets my vote I've been running them many years now

bajan 4g

[BlixaBargeld]

And I have magnaflow resonated and absolutely love it. It is very loud which I enjoy but may be distasteful to others. I bought it cost effectively but I honestly love all three just came down to cost at this time.

The resonated one is "very loud"?

[Tampavw]

If you are on a budget, search "Tampa Mod" as it will sound just as good and cost you ~$150 instead of ~$600

None of these will add any measurable power so all you are changing is sound anyway. Tampa mod gives you that and costs 1/3 the price

http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea...to-the-MKIV.-R

[BlixaBargeld]

Don't waste your time this dude asked the same in the mk IV forum

[mach5racing4]

I was in the same boat and I bought a Scorpion manifold back exhaust from Forge Motorsports and I couldn't be happier. The fit and finish was great and the sound is amazing. Plus they are cheaper than the other brands

[VR64ANT]

I used magnaflow 11366 instead of the one the Tampa mod uses. It's a little quieter and deeper. Flapper mod is also done.

This isn't my car but it's the same setup. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vzj7m...e_gdata_player

[BlixaBargeld]

Not true. Magnaflow is cheaper

[tar32]

Don't waste your time this dude asked the same in the mk IV forum

I accidentally posted on mkiv and not mkv first, it was my bad. Guess people aren't allowed to make mistakes. Thanks for everyone else so far that has put in their input on this.

[BlixaBargeld]

I accidentally posted on mkiv and not mkv first, it was my bad. Guess people aren't allowed to make mistakes. Thanks for everyone else so far that has put in their input on this.

They are. You are not :bang head:

BTW why not search as it was all written before .... power won't sway you one way or the other .... build quality might sway you .... but mostly it is sound that people buy an exhaust .....

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[tar32]

They are. You are not :bang head:

BTW why not search as it was all written before .... power won't sway you one way or the other .... build quality might sway you .... but mostly it is sound that people buy an exhaust .....

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I have it's just I can't make up my mind I just dont want to get something and be unhappy about it. I've been researching for a week and I'm drawing a blank.

[sixteen10]

Milltek FTW.

[NittanyR32]

Milltek FTW.

+1

[BlixaBargeld]

Sound makes the difference everything else is just a detail ...... Go to a meeting and listen

[Mr_Peach]

I like my Borla, but I got a great deal at amazon (price has gone up since).

One "drone" detail that doesn't get discussed much: I don't think my Borla drones, but a lot depends on how you drive it. I drive in M most of the time, and I typically hold 3-4K RPM when cruising around.

If you just stick it in D and try to pull load at low RPMs without inducing a shift, say climbing a hill at 2K RPM, the Borla drones a fair bit. I don't happen to find that offensive, then again I rarely drive that way to begin with.

[NittanyR32]

Sound is the main thing. Power gains will be pretty much be the same on all.

[dachief]

I just did a price comparison a couple of months back, and by far the cheapest was Magnaflow sport, which is resonated but not mufflered. As for sound I compared a lot of online clips and found the magnaflow sport to sound pretty damn good, especially for the price, new in box, shipped to my door. $475.00 or so from www.mjmautohaus.com. This unit normally goes for around 650, so its a great deal.

I just gotta get it installed now!

[VR64ANT]

I just did a price comparison a couple of months back, and by far the cheapest was Magnaflow sport, which is resonated but not mufflered. As for sound I compared a lot of online clips and found the magnaflow sport to sound pretty damn good, especially for the price, new in box, shipped to my door. $475.00 or so from www.mjmautohaus.com. This unit normally goes for around 650, so its a great deal.

I just gotta get it installed now!

Can anyone comment on the drone of the magnaflow kit

[tar32]

So I'm gonna go with Milltek non res, thanks for your input guys. Much appreciated.

[Lolasaurus_Rex]

The main thing about exhaust is flow. Generally, the bigger the pipes, the more flow. Milltek uses a 2.75" pipe while most others are 2.5", and it is also one of the only catbacks to show gains on a dyno (minimal). The only other option I know of that uses even larger pipes and has shown gains is the scorpion at 3". There is an issue of too much flow causing not enough back pressure on NA engines but again, the two options with larger pipes in our case are the only ones to show any consistent gains. Overall, the gains are so little that to me, it's pointless. If you want more noise or just better looking tips, look into the Tampa mod as mentioned already.

LOL GTFO

You're paying your tech too much if he is feeding you BS like this.

[Slave IV]

LOL GTFO

You're paying your tech too much if he is feeding you BS like this.

LOL, I never talked to my tech about exhaust for this car because like I said, it's pointless to me. That issue has been discussed many times here. Thanks for your input though and FU too

[ldaledub]

Can anyone comment on the drone of the magnaflow kit

i wouldnt say it has a drone. but on my 9 hr trip to mich earlier this year it does get stuck in your head, pretty loud in 6th gear doing 80 you really start liking stopping for gas. being how easy these things install next trip ill just throw on the stock exhaust and switch back to magnaflow when i get home. but around town its fine, sounds wicked for the price.

[Slave IV]

I used magnaflow 11366 instead of the one the Tampa mod uses. It's a little quieter and deeper. Flapper mod is also done.

This isn't my car but it's the same setup. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vzj7m...e_gdata_player

Is there a fitment issue with the pipes being offset on that resonator?

[Howboutcha C'mon]

I've been waiting for a detailed exhaust thread. Obviously, all of it comes down to preference, but the characteristics of each system has yet to be laid out in one place... and youtube hardly helps as the recording device and placement is always different.

I would have made this thread eventually - Can a seasoned member provide a quick 'flow chart' of noise?

Loudest - stock - quiet (initially of course)

_______ - metallic
_______ - drone-y
_______ - raspiest ...ect.


I've always been curious as too what a quick break down would provide us who have not been fortunate enough to make it to G2G's to decide on our own. I'm mostly thrown on this as the resonator seems to make the biggest difference in the mix, and it seems like a handful of people end up going back to the stock exhaust.

[HOWIE-WP]

Milltek FTW.

+1

The cat back non res is pretty throaty

http://youtu.be/NIYqZLzq7kk

http://youtu.be/RdNyEk3R7mw

http://youtu.be/DFrgUd7LWS8

[BlixaBargeld]

One man's beautiful sound is noise to another. Some are deaf to drone etc

[HOWIE-WP]

One man's beautiful sound is noise to another. Some are deaf to drone etc

I think the drone is more pronounced due to the DSG (a manual will be much less audible, I think), mine seems to have a drone around 80km/hr but it clears as the speed increases.

[VR64ANT]

Is there a fitment issue with the pipes being offset on that resonator?

No it's actually closer to the factory fitment than a "non-offset" resonator. No highway drone at all. It's still a little raspy but much deeper tone than that factory setup.

[Slave IV]

No it's actually closer to the factory fitment than a "non-offset" resonator. No highway drone at all. It's still a little raspy but much deeper tone than that factory setup.

I liked the way it sounded in the vid you linked to.

Also, I've asked this before with no response:
Peopl have been replacing stock tips w/ MagnaFlow 35127 but if you look at Magnaflow's website, the tips shown there are different than the tips just about every other retailer sells under the same part #.
From Magnaflow:

http://www.magnaflow.com/02product/d...rtnumber=35127

From Summit Racing:

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/MPE-35127/?rtype=10

What's the deal with this and which one are people actually getting and installing on their cars?