4-cyl (turbo/SC allowed) cars that can reach 60 MPH in 2nd gear.

[2.0T_Convert]

Talk about 0-60 times and excuses based on shifting gears keeps coming up in threads. So how about a list of all the low output or smaller engine cars that can reach the 60 milestone without needing 3rd gear.

Civic Si can't. GTI can't. BRZ can't. What can?

[Harv]

Civic Si can't. GTI can't. BRZ can't. What can?

Wow.

My B5 Audi 1.8t can do it. Stock exhaust too. It's redlines right at 61mph, but it can do it.

[compy222]

i recall the cobalt ss being able to...not 100% on that though...

i also recall my 5 speed miata being able to hit 60 or close in 2nd.

[dmorrow]

Can't the WRX do it and the STI can't? Part part of the reason for the odd magazine reports on 0-60 times? Not sure about any this.

[Jason4]

Wow.

My B5 Audi 1.8t can do it. Stock exhaust too. It's redlines right at 61mph, but it can do it.

The exhaust system will not change the maximum engine speed governor (redline) in your B5. It might change if you've reflashed the ECU.

[B3passatBMX]

SVT Focus. With an aftermarket tune and the fuel cut off set at 7600, shift at 7500 and you're doing about 71 ..Hell stock you can too.

[SnowGTI2003]

Can't the WRX do it and the STI can't? Part part of the reason for the odd magazine reports on 0-60 times? Not sure about any this.

Correct. WRX with the 5spd can do it. STi with the 6spd cannot.

[Shomegrown]

Wow.

My B5 Audi 1.8t can do it. Stock exhaust too. It's redlines right at 61mph, but it can do it.

My 1997 A4 1.8T quattro definitely could not hit 60 in 2nd gear. It was good to mid 50's at best from memory.

[Harv]

The exhaust system will not change the maximum engine speed governor (redline) in your B5. It might change if you've reflashed the ECU.

It will let the car reach a higher speed in a less amount of RPM used. Thus eliminating the need to shift gears earlier.

[Harv]

My 1997 A4 1.8T quattro definitely could not hit 60 in 2nd gear. It was good to mid 50's at best from memory.

Maybe my automatic has different gearing than the 5-speed? I don't remember off hand.

[Shomegrown]

Maybe my automatic has different gearing than the 5-speed? I don't remember off hand.

It does, the automatics had taller gearing on the B5's.

[helement2003]

It will let the car reach a higher speed in a less amount of RPM used. Thus eliminating the need to shift gears earlier.

I hope this isn't an epic trolling.

Speed vs. gearing is fixed. Adding an exhaust/intake/turbo/supercharger/2 big bottles of NOS/etc will not give you higher top speed in each gear.

[mellbergVWfan]

It will let the car reach a higher speed in a less amount of RPM used. Thus eliminating the need to shift gears earlier.

[Yavuz]

It will let the car reach a higher speed in a less amount of RPM used. Thus eliminating the need to shift gears earlier.

I don't want to be mean, but... no it wont. If your redline is the same and your gearing is the same you will have the same top speed in 2nd gear with 100hp as you would with 1000hp.

[Indigo20v]

My FSXT can- same 5spd as the WRX.

[pistol-mcgee]

My mk1 could before I swapped transmissions, had a acn code and I'd be at around 62 when I'd shift at 6k

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[slirt]

My B5 Audi 1.8t can do it. Stock exhaust too. It's redlines right at 61mph, but it can do it.

i'm glad you posted that; i was thinking my B5 1.8t could have done it.

[Buckeye(OH)]

Will reply back after getting on onramp tomorrow. I somehow don't think I can though.

[r2kool4u]

I hope this isn't an epic trolling.

Speed vs. gearing is fixed. Adding an exhaust/intake/turbo/supercharger/2 big bottles of NOS/etc will not give you higher top speed in each gear.

According to f and f nos adds to top speed.

BTW my 20th will do 60 in second. That's at like 7k though haha.

[phill0046]

It will let the car reach a higher speed in a less amount of RPM used. Thus eliminating the need to shift gears earlier.

Lol wut?

[pete@blackforest]

My '08 2.5T Rabbit reaches 68mph in 2nd gear.

[helement2003]

According to f and f nos adds to top speed.

At least that little bit can be half true.

Suppose your car is geared in top gear to max out at 160mph, but you don't have enough horsepower to get there, maybe only 140mph. NOS or other power adders can definitely help increase your achievable top speed, but not your gear limited top speed.

I know that's not what they said in the movie, but it can be applied that way.

[turbo_nine]

It will let the car reach a higher speed in a less amount of RPM used. Thus eliminating the need to shift gears earlier.

[themagellan]

If it isn't 60 it'd be 59 4 Speed vw-Fox + 100DirectPort

[Demo24]

WRx 5psd will do 69 in 2nd...

No idea why Subaru geared 2nd so damn tall, first is much shorter and I wish 2nd was a bit shorter too, to provide a bit more punch at slower speeds.

[helement2003]

I'm thinking about adding an exhaust to the S2000 so I can hit 70 in 2nd gear!

[MK2*GTI*GUY]

Elise? I found this in a Lotus forum.

" 8500rpm shifted 8000rpm 6200rpm
ratio mph rpm mph mph
1st: 3.12 43.7 --- 41.2 31.9
2nd: 2.05 66.6 5585 62.7 48.6
3rd: 1.48 92.2 6137 86.8 67.3
4th: 1.17 116.6 6720 109.8 85.1
5th: 0.92 148.3 6684 139.6 108.2
6th: 0.81 168.5 7484 158.6 122.9
Final Drive 4.53:1
cam cutover point 6200 rpm

rpm: 2nd gear mph
3000: 23.5
3500: 27.4
4000: 31.3
4500: 35.2
5000: 39.2
5500: 43.1
6000: 47.0
6500: 50.9
7000: 54.8
7500: 58.7

Hoosier A6 245/40R17 circ. 76.8"

[leakslikasieve]

Yeah pretty much any 5 speed manual trans car can hit 60 in 2nd. Most 6 speeds are geared too tight.

[TurboMinivan]

It will let the car reach a higher speed in a less amount of RPM used. Thus eliminating the need to shift gears earlier.

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[Jason4]

It will let the car reach a higher speed in a less amount of RPM used. Thus eliminating the need to shift gears earlier.

I think I'm getting trolled by a moderator.

As was said earlier the relationship between engine speed and wheel speed is fixed mechanically by the driveline. An auto trans with a torque converter makes that relationship a little looser but under acceleration even if the TC wasn't locked you wouldn't have a higher wheel speed/engine speed with a different exhaust.

You are correct that a less restrictive exhaust might get you some improvement in elapsed time but again, it will not change the relationship between engine speed and vehicle speed which was the original question.

[ValveCoverGasket]

It will let the car reach a higher speed in a less amount of RPM used. Thus eliminating the need to shift gears earlier.

which suggests that you were powered limited in reaching your rev limiter in 2nd gear.


seriously?

[TurboMinivan]

Talk about 0-60 times and excuses based on shifting gears keeps coming up in threads. So how about a list of all the low output or smaller engine cars that can reach the 60 milestone without needing 3rd gear.

Civic Si can't. GTI can't. BRZ can't. What can?

This can:



If I wind it out to redline, I can hit somewhere around 72-75 MPH in second. Of course, I almost never do so since power drops off sharply by 5500 RPM. This is why I can't recall exactly what my second gear redline speed is.

(OP never said anything about excluding 3spd slushboxes.)

[spitfirevr6]

my accord lol

[DerSpiegel]

I'm pretty sure the Porsche 968 will reach 60mph in second gear if you are willing to bounce it off of the rev limiter.

[JLJetta]

It seems to me, that many (most) cars which used to with a 5 speed, cannot with a 6 speed. Instead of simply keeping the base 5 ratio's, and adding a granny gear for 6th; they redistributed the gear ratio's.

It was even more common in the days of 4 speeds and 3 speeds.