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    Thread: awp wiring thread

    1. 06-28-2012 08:42 PM #1
      heres the low down on awp wiring for most swaps check the bently to make sure colors are close more or less wires I removed the ones i didnt use and capped them off
      this ones going into my corrado cut and solder to fuse box

      awp or most motor codes corrado fuse box


      AWP SIDE----------------------------------------------------------CORRADO SIDE

      DLC t16 16 pin plug

      pin 1 black/blue {-------------------------------------------------------} Q/03
      pin 2 blank
      pin 3 blank
      pin 4 brown {---------------- ground----------------}
      pin 5 brown {---------------- ground ---------------}
      pin 6 orange/black {---- connects to T32a in spedo cluster and T10w pin 2----}
      pin 7 grey/white {---- connects to T32/T32a and orange plug T10----}
      pin 8 blank
      pin 9 blank
      pin 10 blank
      pin 11 blank
      pin 12 blank
      pin 13 white/red {---- connects to pin 1 white plug T10w----}
      pin 14 orange/brown {---- connects to pin3 white plug T10w T32a cluster----}
      pin 15 blank
      pin 16 red/white {----------------------------------------------------------------} Q/03

      orange plug T10

      pin 1 gray/white {---- connects to pin 1 on DLC----}
      pin 2 red/green {---- blank----}
      pin 3 black/green {---- connects to back up lights----} F/07
      pin 4 blank
      pin 5 blank
      pin 6 blue/white {---- connects to speed sensor in the cluster ----}
      pin 7 green {---- coolant fan control ----} A1/05
      pin 8 blue/red {---- a/c switch ----} N/05
      pin 9 blank
      pin 10 black/blue {---- brake lights ----} E/03

      brown plug T6

      pin 1 black/purple {---- ECU control connects with T14 ----} G1/10
      pin 2 purple/white {---- fuel relay----} G1/03
      pin 3 red/black {---- stater interlock ----} F/01
      pin 4 red/green {---- ECU ----} F/05
      pin 5 blue/yellow {---- control elements ----} G1/04

      White plug T10w

      pin 1 white/red {---- Goes to pin 13 DLC T16 ----}
      pin 2 black {---- Goes to DLC connects to all orange/black----}
      pin 3 white {---- Goes to DLC connects to all orange/brown----}
      pin 4 white/red {---- Goes to Clutch switch----}
      pin 5 brown/red {---- Goes to alt light in cluster ----}
      pin 6 brown/red {---- thermostat in raditor ----} A1/05
      pin 7 blank
      pin 8 blank
      pin 9 blank
      pin 10 blank

      T14 in the engine

      pin 1 green/black {---- oil pressure switch ----}
      pin 2 black/green {---- powers speed sensor switch 20a fuse ----}g1/11
      pin 3 green {---- speedo goes to T32/28 blue plug behind your speedo ----}
      pin 4 purple {---- engine coolant temp
      Last edited by $800rado; 07-06-2012 at 02:26 AM.

    2. 06-30-2012 04:51 PM #2
      bump

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      07-04-2012 09:26 PM #3
      What the **** is Q? What is Q to?

      I only used F, G1, G2 and (S; which you kind of minus since that is for the wipers) Z1 and IIRC Y.

      Supply pictures- interested in seeing how you did this. My route-
      http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea...20v-1.8T/page4
      it's not that I can't do it, it's that I don't know how yet...

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      07-04-2012 11:33 PM #4
      Q is Alot if dash stuff. http://a2resource.com/electrical/CE2.html has Alot of good info.

    5. 07-05-2012 05:01 AM #5
      Quote Originally Posted by 2OVT View Post
      What the **** is Q? What is Q to?

      I only used F, G1, G2 and (S; which you kind of minus since that is for the wipers) Z1 and IIRC Y.

      Supply pictures- interested in seeing how you did this. My route-
      http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea...20v-1.8T/page4

      Q/03 is to 7.5 fuse from the corrado for the DLC in the bently for the 1.8t side

    6. 07-05-2012 05:02 AM #6
      hey bonesaw am i in the right direction

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      07-05-2012 10:26 AM #7
      If I recall correctly it just needs switched ignition.

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      07-05-2012 11:04 AM #8
      Quote Originally Posted by $800rado View Post
      Q/03 is to 7.5 fuse from the corrado for the DLC in the bently for the 1.8t side
      I'm confused. If you're doing a partial swap (splicing AWP to CE2) then why do you need to mess with Q? What part of Q is to which harness? Just interior?

      Q/03 Cigarette Lighter, Radio, Amplified Speaker Power
      explain to me why you need this, please? And wtf is the DLC?

      Also- did you use both sides of the T14?

      Sorry- I'm still figuring my wiring out.
      Last edited by 2OVT; 07-05-2012 at 11:06 AM.
      it's not that I can't do it, it's that I don't know how yet...

    9. 07-05-2012 04:10 PM #9
      this would work out so much easier for you guys

      T6-brown connector
      pin 1 -black or black/purple 15 amp fused switched live 15 to ecu T121/3 Y (g1 pin 4, needs fuse)
      pin 2 - purple/white ecu T121/65 to fuel pump relay earth Y (g1 pin 3)
      pin 4 - red/green 20 amp fused constant positive 30 to ecu T121/62 Y (Y pin 4, needs fuse)
      pin 5 - blue/yellow fused 10 amp from fuel pump relay Y (g1 pin 10)

      T14a - 14 pin connector near battery
      pin 4 -purple coolant temp sensor (214) Y/M (G2 pin 3, requires resistor to read correctly)
      pin 5 - red/purple 10 amp fused switched live to injectors (183) Y ( Z1)
      pin 6 - yellow/black fused 10 amp from fuel pump relay (fuse shared with T6/6) Y (g2 pin 4)
      pin 7 - brown earth (204) (197) Y Earth to chassis or battery -VE (Edit by mat-mk3)
      pin 9 - brown/white earth for senders Y (G1 pin 6)

      T10W -White connector
      pin 4 - white/red ecu T121/39 to clutch pedal switch Y (Clutch pedal switch in car)


      10 Orange
      pin 1 - grey/white to ecu T121/43 (229) Y ( diagnostics K diag port)
      pin 2 - green/red to ecu T121/81 Y (Tach signal from ecu via tach adaptor to G1 pin 12)
      pin 6 - blue/white ecu T121/54 to speed signal in dash wiring Y (Hall speed sensor on clocks W pin 1)


      T10h Blue
      pin 1 - brown/white to brown/blue ecu T121/34 to throttle sender T6b/6 Y (Throttle pedal in car)
      pin 2 - green/white to green white ecu T121/72 to throttle sender T6b/1 Y (Throttle pedal in car)
      pin 3 - yellow/green to yellow/green ecu T121/73 to throttle sender T6b/2 Y (Throttle pedal in car)
      pin 4 - grey/red to grey/red ecu T121/36 to throttle sender T6b/3 Y (Throttle pedal in car)
      pin 5 - white/blue to white/blue ecu T121/35 to throttle sender T6b/4 Y (Throttle pedal in car)
      pin 6 - grey/blue to grey/blue ecu T121/33 to throttle sender T6b/5 Y (Throttle pedal in car)

    10. 07-05-2012 05:45 PM #10
      Quote Originally Posted by 2OVT View Post
      I'm confused. If you're doing a partial swap (splicing AWP to CE2) then why do you need to mess with Q? What part of Q is to which harness? Just interior?


      explain to me why you need this, please? And wtf is the DLC?

      Also- did you use both sides of the T14?

      Sorry- I'm still figuring my wiring out.
      DLC is your data link connector so you can read your codes in the bently it is connected to a 7.5 fuse and links up to your radio so i picked Q/03 it is the fuse to my corrados radio as for T14
      i have it on paper ill post it

    11. 07-05-2012 09:40 PM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by dik-van-dub View Post
      this would work out so much easier for you guys

      T6-brown connector
      pin 1 -black or black/purple 15 amp fused switched live 15 to ecu T121/3 Y (g1 pin 4, needs fuse)
      pin 2 - purple/white ecu T121/65 to fuel pump relay earth Y (g1 pin 3)
      pin 4 - red/green 20 amp fused constant positive 30 to ecu T121/62 Y (Y pin 4, needs fuse)
      pin 5 - blue/yellow fused 10 amp from fuel pump relay Y (g1 pin 10)

      T14a - 14 pin connector near battery
      pin 4 -purple coolant temp sensor (214) Y/M (G2 pin 3, requires resistor to read correctly)
      pin 5 - red/purple 10 amp fused switched live to injectors (183) Y ( Z1)
      pin 6 - yellow/black fused 10 amp from fuel pump relay (fuse shared with T6/6) Y (g2 pin 4)
      pin 7 - brown earth (204) (197) Y Earth to chassis or battery -VE (Edit by mat-mk3)
      pin 9 - brown/white earth for senders Y (G1 pin 6)

      T10W -White connector
      pin 4 - white/red ecu T121/39 to clutch pedal switch Y (Clutch pedal switch in car)


      10 Orange
      pin 1 - grey/white to ecu T121/43 (229) Y ( diagnostics K diag port)
      pin 2 - green/red to ecu T121/81 Y (Tach signal from ecu via tach adaptor to G1 pin 12)
      pin 6 - blue/white ecu T121/54 to speed signal in dash wiring Y (Hall speed sensor on clocks W pin 1)


      T10h Blue
      pin 1 - brown/white to brown/blue ecu T121/34 to throttle sender T6b/6 Y (Throttle pedal in car)
      pin 2 - green/white to green white ecu T121/72 to throttle sender T6b/1 Y (Throttle pedal in car)
      pin 3 - yellow/green to yellow/green ecu T121/73 to throttle sender T6b/2 Y (Throttle pedal in car)
      pin 4 - grey/red to grey/red ecu T121/36 to throttle sender T6b/3 Y (Throttle pedal in car)
      pin 5 - white/blue to white/blue ecu T121/35 to throttle sender T6b/4 Y (Throttle pedal in car)
      pin 6 - grey/blue to grey/blue ecu T121/33 to throttle sender T6b/5 Y (Throttle pedal in car)
      where did you find this one from can you link the swap and for T14a pin 4 what kind or size resistor did you use

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      07-05-2012 11:42 PM #12
      Quote Originally Posted by dik-van-dub View Post
      this would work out so much easier for you guys

      T6-brown connector
      pin 1 -black or black/purple 15 amp fused switched live 15 to ecu T121/3 Y (g1 pin 4, needs fuse)
      pin 2 - purple/white ecu T121/65 to fuel pump relay earth Y (g1 pin 3)
      pin 4 - red/green 20 amp fused constant positive 30 to ecu T121/62 Y (Y pin 4, needs fuse)
      pin 5 - blue/yellow fused 10 amp from fuel pump relay Y (g1 pin 10)

      T14a - 14 pin connector near battery
      pin 4 -purple coolant temp sensor (214) Y/M (G2 pin 3, requires resistor to read correctly)
      pin 5 - red/purple 10 amp fused switched live to injectors (183) Y ( Z1)
      pin 6 - yellow/black fused 10 amp from fuel pump relay (fuse shared with T6/6) Y (g2 pin 4)
      pin 7 - brown earth (204) (197) Y Earth to chassis or battery -VE (Edit by mat-mk3)
      pin 9 - brown/white earth for senders Y (G1 pin 6)

      T10W -White connector
      pin 4 - white/red ecu T121/39 to clutch pedal switch Y (Clutch pedal switch in car)


      10 Orange
      pin 1 - grey/white to ecu T121/43 (229) Y ( diagnostics K diag port)
      pin 2 - green/red to ecu T121/81 Y (Tach signal from ecu via tach adaptor to G1 pin 12)
      pin 6 - blue/white ecu T121/54 to speed signal in dash wiring Y (Hall speed sensor on clocks W pin 1)


      T10h Blue
      pin 1 - brown/white to brown/blue ecu T121/34 to throttle sender T6b/6 Y (Throttle pedal in car)
      pin 2 - green/white to green white ecu T121/72 to throttle sender T6b/1 Y (Throttle pedal in car)
      pin 3 - yellow/green to yellow/green ecu T121/73 to throttle sender T6b/2 Y (Throttle pedal in car)
      pin 4 - grey/red to grey/red ecu T121/36 to throttle sender T6b/3 Y (Throttle pedal in car)
      pin 5 - white/blue to white/blue ecu T121/35 to throttle sender T6b/4 Y (Throttle pedal in car)
      pin 6 - grey/blue to grey/blue ecu T121/33 to throttle sender T6b/5 Y (Throttle pedal in car)
      holy tats- thanks.

      When it says 'needs fuse' I am assuming you add a fuse? Sorry, I'm new to wiring and am still figuring all this out for my swap. It's the part I am stuck with

      What is all the 'Y' deals about?

      Also I am confused with the T14a, since that sits in the bay- are you guys just pulling it through the firewall or cutting and extending?

      Quote Originally Posted by $800rado View Post
      DLC is your data link connector so you can read your codes in the bently it is connected to a 7.5 fuse and links up to your radio so i picked Q/03 it is the fuse to my corrados radio as for T14
      i have it on paper ill post it
      Ok cool, that gives me a good idea. Have been trying to figure out what to do with daignostics port.
      it's not that I can't do it, it's that I don't know how yet...

    13. 07-06-2012 12:59 AM #13
      T14a i ran mine through the fire wall

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      07-06-2012 12:39 PM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by $800rado View Post
      T14a i ran mine through the fire wall
      did you chop the connector off or what? pictures would be rad
      it's not that I can't do it, it's that I don't know how yet...

    15. 07-06-2012 11:50 PM #15
      kept the plug cut as far back as you can

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      07-07-2012 12:21 AM #16
      ok, just like I did then. I was planning on doing the same thing. I was always assuming when people said T14a that they were talking about one half of the T14a/b connector, so I just confused myself

      we should keep this going for a sticky eventually. I'd like to be able to get it all down pat before I splice my harness later this week

      and please more pictures of the harness through firewall.
      it's not that I can't do it, it's that I don't know how yet...

    17. 07-07-2012 03:43 AM #17
      ill post the pics just trying to get it done in the right direction

    18. 07-07-2012 12:45 PM #18
      the y and n are for yes needed, n for not needed

      i keep the t14 plug in place it helps for when you want to remove your motor

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      07-07-2012 02:49 PM #19
      Quote Originally Posted by dik-van-dub View Post
      the y and n are for yes needed, n for not needed

      i keep the t14 plug in place it helps for when you want to remove your motor
      And just spliced the other end of the t14 to the ce2
      Connectors?

      Also- my g60 doesn't have any sort of line to communicate to ISO 9141, so how should the dlc be ran?

      What about the black connector and the purple one?
      Last edited by 2OVT; 07-07-2012 at 03:04 PM.
      it's not that I can't do it, it's that I don't know how yet...

    20. 07-07-2012 03:20 PM #20
      black is for the cruise control, and which purple connector are you reffering to

      any how link to thread is here

      the holy grail of wiring me7 ecu's

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      07-07-2012 03:25 PM #21
      Quote Originally Posted by dik-van-dub View Post
      black is for the cruise control, and which purple connector are you reffering to

      any how link to thread is here

      the holy grail of wiring me7 ecu's
      I'll take a pic. Assuming my purple is because my donor mk4 was an auto.

      edit: memory is telling me it is gray, not purple. my apologise.
      Last edited by 2OVT; 07-07-2012 at 03:35 PM.
      it's not that I can't do it, it's that I don't know how yet...

    22. 07-07-2012 06:39 PM #22
      Quote Originally Posted by dik-van-dub View Post
      this would work out so much easier for you guys

      T6-brown connector
      pin 1 -black or black/purple 15 amp fused switched live 15 to ecu T121/3 Y (g1 pin 4, needs fuse)
      pin 2 - purple/white ecu T121/65 to fuel pump relay earth Y (g1 pin 3)
      pin 4 - red/green 20 amp fused constant positive 30 to ecu T121/62 Y (Y pin 4, needs fuse)
      pin 5 - blue/yellow fused 10 amp from fuel pump relay Y (g1 pin 10)

      T14a - 14 pin connector near battery
      pin 4 -purple coolant temp sensor (214) Y/M (G2 pin 3, requires resistor to read correctly)
      pin 5 - red/purple 10 amp fused switched live to injectors (183) Y ( Z1)
      pin 6 - yellow/black fused 10 amp from fuel pump relay (fuse shared with T6/6) Y (g2 pin 4)
      pin 7 - brown earth (204) (197) Y Earth to chassis or battery -VE (Edit by mat-mk3)
      pin 9 - brown/white earth for senders Y (G1 pin 6)

      T10W -White connector
      pin 4 - white/red ecu T121/39 to clutch pedal switch Y (Clutch pedal switch in car)


      10 Orange
      pin 1 - grey/white to ecu T121/43 (229) Y ( diagnostics K diag port)
      pin 2 - green/red to ecu T121/81 Y (Tach signal from ecu via tach adaptor to G1 pin 12)
      pin 6 - blue/white ecu T121/54 to speed signal in dash wiring Y (Hall speed sensor on clocks W pin 1)


      T10h Blue
      pin 1 - brown/white to brown/blue ecu T121/34 to throttle sender T6b/6 Y (Throttle pedal in car)
      pin 2 - green/white to green white ecu T121/72 to throttle sender T6b/1 Y (Throttle pedal in car)
      pin 3 - yellow/green to yellow/green ecu T121/73 to throttle sender T6b/2 Y (Throttle pedal in car)
      pin 4 - grey/red to grey/red ecu T121/36 to throttle sender T6b/3 Y (Throttle pedal in car)
      pin 5 - white/blue to white/blue ecu T121/35 to throttle sender T6b/4 Y (Throttle pedal in car)
      pin 6 - grey/blue to grey/blue ecu T121/33 to throttle sender T6b/5 Y (Throttle pedal in car)
      hey your brown connector T6 pin 4 says it goes to pin 4 of what ? yours says to Y\04 i put mine to F\05 its a ecu power and goes to a fuse box in the a2 side http://a2resource.com/electrical/CE2.html
      Last edited by $800rado; 07-07-2012 at 07:04 PM.

    23. 07-07-2012 07:13 PM #23
      it actually is live from Y4

      why get power from other parts of loom when you can use the standard ce2 engine plugs makes removal a lot easier if need be
      Last edited by dik-van-dub; 07-07-2012 at 08:18 PM.

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      07-08-2012 01:14 AM #24


      It was gray.
      it's not that I can't do it, it's that I don't know how yet...

    25. 07-08-2012 07:39 AM #25
      i would say thats for the auto loom, but couldnt say for certain

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      07-08-2012 02:09 PM #26
      figured it all out
      Last edited by 2OVT; 07-09-2012 at 06:54 PM.
      it's not that I can't do it, it's that I don't know how yet...

    27. 07-09-2012 08:47 PM #27

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      07-09-2012 11:08 PM #28
      I have stripped my harness and followed the rabbit hole.

      before-


      after-
      Last edited by 2OVT; 07-10-2012 at 01:24 AM.
      it's not that I can't do it, it's that I don't know how yet...

    29. 07-10-2012 05:08 AM #29
      yup i cut mine pretty thin too

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      07-10-2012 12:52 PM #30
      Quote Originally Posted by $800rado View Post
      yup i cut mine pretty thin too
      you should put up a build thread or post more pictures to give me inspiration to finish

      did you primlarily use F, G1, G2, Y and Z1 for the swap?
      it's not that I can't do it, it's that I don't know how yet...

    31. 08-19-2012 03:37 AM #31
      Here's my contribution. I compiled this after looking at a whole bunch of swap threads, bently research, and trial & error. I just got everything to work today. A/C tommorrow and other small stuff.



      updated table


      great link
      http://www.clubgti.com/showthread.ph...ss-install-FAQ
      Last edited by qksilva; 12-28-2012 at 12:53 AM.

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      08-27-2012 04:07 PM #32
      awesome, lets keep this alive
      it's not that I can't do it, it's that I don't know how yet...

    33. 09-04-2012 03:52 AM #33
      I updated my table a little.

      Everything works but the reverse lights, CEL, and VSS signal to ECU.

      The CEL doesnt light up even at start up. IDK why.

      I didnt hook up the reverse switch to the trans yet.

      The big issue is the ECU isnt getting a VSS signal though my speedo is working. Does the AWP ecu even need a vss signal? Is there anyway to get the signal to the ecu besides running a mk4 cluster?
      Last edited by qksilva; 09-04-2012 at 03:55 AM.

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      09-04-2012 05:00 PM #34
      Quote Originally Posted by qksilva View Post
      I updated my table a little.

      Everything works but the reverse lights, CEL, and VSS signal to ECU.

      The CEL doesnt light up even at start up. IDK why.

      I didnt hook up the reverse switch to the trans yet.

      The big issue is the ECU isnt getting a VSS signal though my speedo is working. Does the AWP ecu even need a vss signal? Is there anyway to get the signal to the ecu besides running a mk4 cluster?
      if you're not using the original trans that the harness is for, you'll need a tach adapter to convert the signal from analog to digital
      it's not that I can't do it, it's that I don't know how yet...

    35. 09-05-2012 02:03 AM #35
      Quote Originally Posted by 2OVT View Post
      if you're not using the original trans that the harness is for, you'll need a tach adapter to convert the signal from analog to digital
      So, I need to get a signal converter for the vss? Im using a mk3 vss which i think outputs a digital signal

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