I don't know about you guys, but I would have just bunny hopped over the Civic.
And I might have even done a trick while in the air- just to show how easy it was to do.
Driver is an idiot, but kudos to get on the shoulder and not kill the poor fella.
You know that most idiots in that situation would have plowed right through him.
All said and done, the driver of the car reacted better to the incident than the rider, regardless of who's at fault.
And if you pass on a double yellow, you're an idiot, or simply brain dead.
Driving to left of centre prohibited under certain conditions
149. (1) No vehicle shall be driven or operated to the left of the centre of a roadway designed for one or more lines of traffic in each direction,
(a) when approaching the crest of a grade or upon a curve in the roadway or within 30 metres of a bridge, viaduct or tunnel where the driver’s view is obstructed within that distance so as to create a potential hazard in the event another vehicle might approach from the opposite direction; or
(b) when approaching within 30 metres of a level railway crossing. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 149 (1).
(2) Subsection (1) does not apply,
(a) on a highway divided into clearly marked lanes where there are more such lanes for traffic in one direction than in the other direction;
(b) to a road service vehicle where precautions are taken to eliminate the hazard; or
(c) on a highway while it is designated for the use of one-way traffic. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 149 (2).
In this particular situation the exceptions are not applicable. In the applicable s. 149(1), lane markings are not mentioned, only that one is not to drive left of the center of the road approaching the crest of a hill or within 30 metres of specified hazards. It is written this way to allow for gravel roads, paved roads without lane markings (Ontario has a lot of both), and roads with snow covering.
The Civic driver was still in the wrong (obviously) because they were left of centre as they were going over a hill.
Re-iterate for the benefit of the Americans: In Ontario. the center line markings ARE NOT the law. You are quite free to pass over dashed lines or solid lines or double solid lines as long as it is not approaching the crest of a hill or within 30 metres of any of the specified hazards.
It should be noted that at normal traffic speeds the 30 metre distance given is nowhere near adequate, but there is another clause of s. 148:
Passing vehicle going in same direction
(8) No person in charge of a vehicle shall pass or attempt to pass another vehicle going in the same direction on a highway unless the roadway,
(a) in front of and to the left of the vehicle to be passed is safely free from approaching traffic; and
(b) to the left of the vehicle passing or attempting to pass is safely free from overtaking traffic. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 148 (8).
Clearly the Civic driver was in violation of this clause, also.
I've even been approached at a gas station by someone I'd previously overtaken because they were going under the speed limit on a 2-lane road that had a solid yellow dividing line. I told him that the Ontario Highway Traffic Act has nothing in it about the meanings of specific lane markings... it's all just conventions and recommendations. He didn't believe me. I told him to have a nice day.
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LOL @ the "riding is too dangerous" crowd.
The only difference if the rider had been driving a car would be the fatalities. Two cars crashing head on like that would result in more dead people than a bike crashing into the car. In fact, if he had been driving a car, that "miss" would had been a hit, offset frontal crash, sending both cars spinning with the passenger on the Civic instantly dead, and maybe involving other cars. The rider/driver would probably die because the car that was being overtaken by the Civic would crash into the driver side of the could be car.
Life is dangerous. Stay at home.
Seemed to happen as he was approaching a really gentle crest. When I was riding, I tried to watch far ahead for just such shenanigans. And I had numerous contact with overtakers in my lane and I just slowed and prepared to pull to the right if they didn't get back in their lane.
I've watched this video several times, and either he is going 100 mph, resulting in no time to react, or the road is cresting a bit where he couldn't see the oncoming passer until it crested.
How fast were the bikes going. They seem to be cooking in the video. Doesn't look like 60 mph to me but who knows?
Edit: Upon further review, I don't think the rider was speeding or going all that fast. Definitely inadequate site distance due to hill crest. REALLY bad spot to pass.
Last edited by jimbogxp; 07-02-2012 at 05:04 AM.
Just because someone else is an idiotic operator of doesn't mean EVERY operator of is an idiot.
In a previous post, it had been mentioned that the teenage driver of the Civic in question had already been called in for erratic driving. It was also mentioned that this happened on Airport Road south of Wasaga Beach. This combination is not at all surprising; Wasaga Beach is a popular party destination and Airport Road has a lot of traffic going to and from Wasaga Beach on summer weekends with good weather. It's a pretty good road to stay away from in times like that.
1) the driver just started overtaking so he wouldn't immediately go back into his lane thus giving enough time to slip by him in the middle line
2) the driver wouldn't hit biker head-on in order to get back into his lane because he looks for an opening to pass which is away from other vehicles (including bikes)
I am not a biker, any riding instructors can chime in perhaps ?
Last edited by Wheelwright; 07-02-2012 at 10:44 AM.
What this means is that the normal reaction upon seeing a car approaching you in the wrong lane up ahead, it is statistically better for you to aim for the right shoulder (thus moving further away from the oncoming traffic) than to go left TOWARDS the oncoming traffic and thus RELYING on the other driver to do the 1%-probability action rather than the 99%-probability action.
It just so happens that in this particular case, the wrong-way driver actually did that 1% move and it was on video.
I have never seen a driver do this (thank God). I cannot count the number of times that I've seen an oncoming car in the wrong lane and they've gone back into their own lane upon seeing oncoming traffic. Swerving towards that oncoming traffic under these circumstances is suicidal.
From this point of view, the motorcyclist's reaction to move towards (but not onto) the shoulder was the statistically correct one (I see nothing wrong with what they did) but they lucked out that the car went even further onto the shoulder.
Keep in mind also that on a road with a gravel shoulder like this, for a motorcycle on normal road tires travelling at highway speed, that gravel shoulder is a no-go zone.