like stated before, the cyclist doesnt know what the other car is gonna do, is the other car gonna try and squeeze through closer to the yellow lines or is he gonna use the shoulder? you just dont know... and to say that you do is just ignorant.
§ 3306. Limitations on driving on left side of roadway.
(a) General rule.--No vehicle shall be driven on the left side of the roadway under any of the following conditions:
(1) When approaching or upon the crest of a grade or a curve in the highway where the driver's view is obstructed within such distance as to create a hazard in the event another vehicle might approach from the opposite direction.
(2) When approaching within 100 feet of or traversing any intersection or railroad grade crossing, unless otherwise indicated by official traffic-control devices.
(3) When the view is obstructed upon approaching within 100 feet of any bridge, viaduct or tunnel.
So, in other words, where a double yellow would be used to indicate a no-passing zone in other states, it's still illegal in PA, signage or not.
Did anyone actually talk to the car driver? You guys are assuming he was passing, maybe he had a medical situation, seizure, heart issues, low blood sugar, whatever.
Whatever the driver was doing on the wrong side of the road certainly wasn't good for anyone, and, as a previous rider myself, I'm glad for the bikers that neither one of them were injured at all, other than getting their hearts started again after that. However, to wish evil on the driver for what you seen in the video, without knowing his side of the story, isn't right. If he was passing like a moron, then he ended up with atleast a smashed car out of it, maybe injuries, towing charges, probably police fines, etc, and hopefully some guilt for almost killing some innocent people. I certainly am not siding with the driver, however to pass judgement w/o hearing the whole story isn't smart either.
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I know visual acuity is a little bit better IRL than in a video, but I would consider that 0 reaction time. Even knowing what is about to happen watching the video again to make up for the fact that it is less crisp than seeing it with your own eyes, the closing speed is just too fast to make any kind of judgement/reaction. Very glad your friend wasn't killed and hope the kids in the civic never forget what happened.
as much as its infuriating to see the double yellow passing on a hill, riding a moto is risky. like if there was a medical emergency and the car ended up in your lane. YOU are still riding the motorcycle and they are in a car... risky business out there.
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If you're going it right, riding is mentally exhausting. You need to be analyzing every car. Every intersection, even if you think no one is there. Every driveway. Playing every possible scenario in your head. That's the kind of behavior it takes to keep you alive when things go wrong. Also, practice. I practice u-turns, quick stops, and other maneuvers in empty parking lots about once a month. Even that's not really enough. I enjoy riding quite a bit, but you can't just cruise down a two line highway and let your mind wander. Every time you pass a group of cars, you need to think to yourself, "what will I do if one of these *******s tries to pass right now." Like I said before, it's exhausting, but it's the right way to ride, and a good rider would have eased gently to the center line in this situation.
And just for the record, I probably would have target fixated just like the guy in the video. I'm aware of my limitations.
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Hopefully the next time the truck driver runs you off the road and beats your ass.
§ 3307. No-passing zones.
(a) Establishment and marking.--The department and local authorities may
determine those portions of any highway under their respective jurisdictions
where overtaking and passing or driving on the left side of the roadway would
be especially hazardous and shall by appropriate signs or markings on the
roadway indicate the beginning and end of such zones and when the signs or
markings are in place and clearly visible to an ordinarily observant person
every driver of a vehicle shall obey the directions of the signs or markings.
Signs shall be placed to indicate the beginning and end of each no-passing
You aren't even able to comprehend what this is saying. Sheesh.
Last edited by pknopp; 07-01-2012 at 06:19 PM.
We have those here that seem to think they can pass on double yellow lines and we had a situation here that made me really question driving.
We had a storm through here that put the power out for nearly 48 hours (not all places are back online yet). All the stop lights were out. When they are out they become a 4 way stop. I couldn't believe than probably 60% of the people just plowed on ahead without even slowing down through the intersections.