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    Thread: How a VW Fox Wagon sucked me back in...a build thread.

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      07-14-2012 01:44 PM #26
      I lost plates and lock nuts from both bike carriers due to the new mounts

      Thanks Alain! I'm really excited about where this is going. The engine revs up nicely all around - all gears have significant pickup increases. I must say the longer arm on the clutch release made a HUGE difference. So smooth and easy and engages with little effort.

      I want to drive all of the time right now.
      How a VW Fox Wagon sucked me back in...a build thread

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      07-15-2012 08:34 PM #27
      Chris, your really learning some crazy ish now! Very impressed!

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      07-19-2012 11:24 AM #28
      Let me start Part 2 off by saying: SCREW the 4 speed PW. What a waste of metal! Instantly more fun to drive with the PSA.
      HaHaHA.

      I was afraid the 034 Motorsport engine mounts and Techtonics Tuning front snub were going to rattle my teeth more than I would liked it, but I was wrong! WHAT a great feel.
      Glad you were not steered wrong on those.

      Smooth, easy, accurate shifting.

      What a reward for your efforts.


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      07-23-2012 04:54 PM #29
      I took the PSA Wagon on it's first trip yesterday. We did a 200 mile trip to Eastern PA to go tubing and have a 400+ mile trip planned for this weekend up to Cooperstown. I am exponentially more excited to drive with the PSA. So much fun!

      Just to keep this all in one place - I started this thread asking about the idle screw and some issues I have been having with it. I have some homework to do.

      The Street Peep scoped out the Wagon! He posted his pics on Saturday. He goes around taking photos of old/obscure cars/trucks and leaves a business card saying "You've Been Peeped" with his site on it. Great concept. I feel honored!
      How a VW Fox Wagon sucked me back in...a build thread

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      08-01-2012 10:41 PM #30
      After consistant recommendations I put in a Mahle (OC47) oil filter along with 20w50 for the first time. Seems happy so far.

      I was running 15w40 for the last year - seemed to love it over the Bentley and original mechanic recommended 10w30 - but figured a long summer drive could use the higher viscosity this time around. Preparing for a 3k mile road trip.
      How a VW Fox Wagon sucked me back in...a build thread

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      08-19-2012 10:47 PM #31
      Last night we got home from the Wagon's longest trip so far. 2,745 miles without a hitch. Such a great vacation.

      So rewarding being able to take a 24 yr old car out on the road - especially compared to the state this car was in a year ago. Got a lot of looks of course! Only saw 1 early Rabbit the whole time and it was on the last day in Detroit.

      I hit 10k miles in the last year (almost to the day) on our way to Ohio.

      This is my favorite pic during the trip - in front of our cabin in Interlochen, MI (was supposed to rain this night, so we opted for a cabin instead of tent - but of course it was a perfectly clear night)


      The Wagon has a history of long road trips. The PO's notes claim he drove to Florida a few times and it even made it out to Arizona once or twice! I plan to keep it happy and trek it around the country some more.

      This trip:
      Brooklyn > LI NY (drop off our dog with my folks) > Roxbury, NY > Allegany State Park camp > Ohio 2 night camp and Cedar Point Roller Coasters > Chicago for a long weekend of amazing biking, beer and food (incl a trip to Three Floyds in Munster, IL) > Founders for lunch > Cabin in Interlochen, MI > Sleeping Bear Dunes 2 night camp, biking, hiking and swimming > 2 nights in Detroit > Brooklyn

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      How a VW Fox Wagon sucked me back in...a build thread

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      08-19-2012 11:28 PM #32
      Sounds like a great trip. Glad the wagon was pleased to take the trip.

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      08-20-2012 12:39 AM #33
      One of the guys in the Scirocco forum hit all 48 contiguous states a couple of summers ago. He actually had a map of the country painted on the hood and filled them in as he traveled. It was epic.

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      08-26-2012 12:35 PM #34
      Awesome trip man, would love to see more pics if you have them! What a reliable Wagon. All your hard work with preventive maintenance and new parts sure is paying off. I'll be doing a trip with my Fox soon and hope it performs this good also

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      08-26-2012 01:45 PM #35
      Wagon looks great, you've done a great job on it.

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      08-28-2012 10:05 AM #36
      So much win, in this thread.

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      08-28-2012 11:21 AM #37
      Thanks Jon & Steve!

      It's nice being able to actually enjoy it all summer...now that fall is around the corner I should be getting back to the body work. I have a hood and fender lined up. I may even take it off the road for a few months during winter.

      First, I need to install my new wire harness w/ relays and Fog Light Switch...even though it looks good - I'd prefer them to be functional

      Been on the hunt for a nice set of 15" wheels that are from the 80s...slim pickings - but not in a rush.
      How a VW Fox Wagon sucked me back in...a build thread

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      10-12-2012 05:37 PM #38
      hahaha.. love the 'Brooklyn Style' jacking technique. good work my man. thank you for sharing this.

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      10-12-2012 06:05 PM #39
      I was going to bump this thread today but ERROL beat me to it, thanks man!

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      10-12-2012 06:07 PM #40
      I used the same front struts (KYB GR2) when I replaced the suspension last month.

      Are the rear shock specific for the fox, or did you order them for a different model VW?
      I had to order rear shocks for a jetta or a golf because the wagon units weren't available.

      Nice work on the wagon. I took mine from South Carolina to Florida about 5-6 times for extended road trips. It's really a good traveling car.
      (sheriff)Early, I though you said this was a drug possum.
      (Early) Sure, I drug him from the ditch.
      (sheriff) I wish you told me that before you sold him to me.

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      10-12-2012 06:21 PM #41
      thanks guys!

      I actually used Audi 4000 Fronts (Part# 365008) and MK2 Rears (Part #343191)

      I need to get the KYB lower spring seats installed - right now I am sagging a bit and bumps are a bit rough. I need that annoying $50 socket tho - someone have one I can borrow?

      I haven't done much in terms of the 'build' lately - got to enjoy driving it a bunch all summer. It is great on the highways. I'm looking forward to installing the rear sway bar - just need to buy a few quality steal bits to get through the beam. Then I want to take it to Harriman State Park - which I've been putting off.
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      How a VW Fox Wagon sucked me back in...a build thread

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      10-12-2012 06:30 PM #42
      Unfortunately my selector shaft seal was leaking. Not having the right tools (or knowledge) when we did the swap - we opted to leave it out. Old oil was over 2 quarts - figured it was fine.



      It was only seeping a very little bit - but enough to piss me off.

      I got some Permatex 82099 Spray Sealant and put a couple of coats. Made a bit of a mess and found bits of this crap on my arms for days. BUT it seems to be holding!

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      10-12-2012 06:53 PM #43
      Are the 4k front inserts different than the Fox? I'm surprised you guys like the GR2's. I've got them on all corners on my Fox and don't really like them. I wouldn't say they're too harsh (in a nice firm way).. more it seems they don't really dampen anything and I'm always banging around like it's a solid suspension (the backs anyway).


      What tool are you referring to? I probably have it.
      I really suck at smog.

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      10-12-2012 07:04 PM #44
      That is the same "feel" I have - I am not 100% psyched about it (in fact the Lady HATES them and wishes she had two sports bras on every time we take it anywhere) - but they were cheap. I wish I sprung (no pun intended) for the Bilsteins or Koni - but that will have to be my priority when these sh*t the bed.

      This tool: http://techtonicstuning.com/main/ind...oducts_id=1685
      How a VW Fox Wagon sucked me back in...a build thread

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      10-12-2012 07:07 PM #45
      Ah, instead of that, I use an offset 22mm wrench + allen key. Good ol' Harbor Freight. I'll bring them over sometime.

      http://www.harborfreight.com/8-piece...set-32042.html


      Christ, $50 for the TT tool.
      I really suck at smog.

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      10-12-2012 09:10 PM #46
      [QUOTE=redone17;79328299]That is the same "feel" I have - I am not 100% psyched about it (in fact the Lady HATES them and wishes she had two sports bras on every time we take it anywhere) - but they were cheap. I wish I sprung (no pun intended) for the Bilsteins or Koni - but that will have to be my priority when these sh*t the bed.

      I got mine b/c they were cheap, but not too cheap. I'll buy the spendy parts when these are shot.
      (sheriff)Early, I though you said this was a drug possum.
      (Early) Sure, I drug him from the ditch.
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      10-12-2012 09:16 PM #47
      Quote Originally Posted by redone17 View Post
      That is the same "feel" I have - I am not 100% psyched about it (in fact the Lady HATES them and wishes she had two sports bras on every time we take it anywhere)
      And now we know why Chris chose the GR2s...

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      10-12-2012 10:10 PM #48
      How a VW Fox Wagon sucked me back in...a build thread

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      10-13-2012 07:51 AM #49
      Also, I decided to put to use the Digi cylinder head I have collecting dust. The G60 head potentially needs more work than I can afford at the moment. I want to put to use the 270 cam, adjustable sprocket and lightened intermediate shaft.

      I'm going to look into getting the head cleaned and resurfaced (as well as pressure tested) and maybe getting the intake ported.

      While I am doing this I would really like to put in a new oil pan gasket. I'm not leaking a lot - again more like seeping (never have to top off or anything). Just gets messy down there.

      It was suggested I get a ECS Oil Pan Baffle With Gasket for an MK3. Anyone have experience with these? Seems like a great idea. (Thanks Steve): http://www.ecstuning.com/Volkswagen-...-2.0/ES260120/

      I have head gasket, injector seals and cups, and have to go through a gasket set I have to identify what I'm missing for this swap.

      Where can I find a good rubber valve cover gasket? All the ones I have on hand are some sort of cork material.

      Do I use a CIS-e valve cover or the Digifant one?

      Any suggestions or impressions with using this type of head and a swap in general would be appreciated.

      Cheers,
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      10-13-2012 12:22 PM #50
      I used the update kit (second choice from top) when I replaced the VC gasket. You'll have to replace the studs in the head with the new parts, but it's worth the effort. No leaks, and the rubber make a better seal than the cork variety.

      http://www.germanautoparts.com/Volks...x/Engine/102/1
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