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    1. Member joedubs's Avatar
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      07-04-2012 03:55 PM #1
      Figured I'd post up since the car actually runs now. I had a built 2L 06a and a worked AEB head that I was putting in a Porsche 914. Long story short, life got in the way. I got married, went back to school blah blah blah and now the Porsche sits.
      Anyway, I sold the bottom end and picked up a b5 avant which is what I had wanted before I bought the Porsche). It needed a trans so i got a v6 trans with low miles and swapped it in.

      Originally I was going to just bolt the turbo on, build a downpipe, and build the motor next year. I ended up snapping a few manifold studs and decided to swap in the head that I had. Maybe it wasn't the most cost effective way to do things, but I wanted to be able to drive the car this summer and I just didn't have the means available to do rods right now too.

      Management is provided by Lugtronic. I had the ecu from the Porsche project and using kevin's guidance I built a PNP adapter similar to the one that he sells.

      The Exhaust is a full custom 3" turbo back. No cat, no muffler, no resonator and it's really really loud.

      Parts list:
      AEB head (assembled by QED)
      Supertech valves (inconel and black nitride)
      Cat gold valve springs
      new oem lifters, new exhaust guides, new cam chain tensioner
      Cat 3658 cams from QED
      Pagparts Vbanded manifold
      PTE5857. Billet, Ball bearing, Vbanded housing
      tial 38mm wastegate
      034 FMIC kit
      034 billet 044 drop in
      840cc's

      I also have fsi coils and a repair harness that I'll be using to upgrade at some point. Probably when I do the bottom end.

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      07-04-2012 05:53 PM #2
      20th Build ~9:5:1 wiseco 81mm forge pisons~IE 20mm rifle drilled H beams~Calico rod bearing~stock port AWP head matched to a IE intake manifold~hemi throttlebody~Custom downpipe/turboback~Self maestro tuned~tial 38mm wastegate~GT3076r .63ar Vband~6 puck Clutchnet~PTE600~USRT 1000cc gen2's~044 IE surge assembly~IE fuelrail~fuelab adjustable FPR

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      07-04-2012 06:23 PM #3
      I want to do a build like this sooo bad.
      for you.

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      07-04-2012 07:19 PM #4
      Good looking build.
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    5. 07-04-2012 07:43 PM #5
      Sweet
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      07-06-2012 11:07 AM #6
      This looks very familiar I have the same setup going on my 98 Tropic green.

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      07-06-2012 11:26 PM #7

      Stock bottom end? Looks good though.
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      07-12-2012 10:35 AM #8
      Yeah stock bottom end for now. Im thinking maybe an 06a swap next winter.

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      07-12-2012 11:47 AM #9
      Quote Originally Posted by joedubs View Post
      Yeah stock bottom end for now. Im thinking maybe an 06a swap next winter.
      We are basically doing twin builds here. My 058 has brute rods in it, i'm moving the pistons/rods over to my 06A if it does not need a bore and a hone will clean it up. I want the internal waterpump and better accesory belt, not that old school crappy mk2 belt setup the AEB and early cars had.


      I've been running around in my MKIV Jetta with a 3076 hitting mid 20psi occasionally on a 193k mile never opened stock 06A bottom end. If you have a good tune and good fuel + spark, these things are pretty bulletproof. Before that I went years on a 3071R 100% stock motor at near 30psi sometimes, with lots of long highway pulls to heat up the oil and create high EGT's. Never an issue.


      Oh, I have a 914 on jackstands too, getting sheetmetal work. How awesome.

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      07-19-2012 10:18 PM #10
      That's crazy, we are doing twin builds!

      Been driving the car a bit. Running off the wastegate spring it's boosting to around 18 psi (I haven't checked what spring is in there, but I believe they come with a 1bar. If so, I guess it's creeping a little).

      Ordered a vibrant resonator, and a magnaflow muffler. Hopefully I can quiet it down a little bit.


      Pardon my crappy front bumper. I want an s4 bumper, facelift headlights, and a new hood. One day.

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      07-20-2012 11:07 AM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by joedubs View Post
      That's crazy, we are doing twin builds!

      Been driving the car a bit. Running off the wastegate spring it's boosting to around 18 psi (I haven't checked what spring is in there, but I believe they come with a 1bar. If so, I guess it's creeping a little).

      Ordered a vibrant resonator, and a magnaflow muffler. Hopefully I can quiet it down a little bit.


      Pardon my crappy front bumper. I want an s4 bumper, facelift headlights, and a new hood. One day.

      Nice! How does it feel?

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      07-20-2012 11:45 AM #12
      Really awesome. And I can definitely tell that the turbo is just starting to wake up at that boost level. The map log shows it just starting to really climb then it flat lines.
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      07-31-2012 11:32 AM #13
      Doing work.




    14. 07-31-2012 12:01 PM #14
      Nice build!

      Been trying to scoop up an 01 Avant, it's a pain in the ass finding a decent one that someone doesn't want a kidney for.
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      07-31-2012 12:50 PM #15
      Thanks!
      I looked for an 01 that I could get for a decent price for about a year. When I gave up this 99 fell into my lap for a price I couldn't pass up. It's not exactly what I wanted, but its a great base.

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      07-31-2012 01:46 PM #16
      Quote Originally Posted by joedubs View Post
      Doing work.



      Nice. I've found whilte two mufflers quiet these cars down, they rob a ton of response and power.

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      07-31-2012 05:33 PM #17
      Both are 3" non baffled designs. I really can't imagine them creating enough restriction to choke anything.

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      08-02-2012 02:07 PM #18
      Quote Originally Posted by joedubs View Post
      Both are 3" non baffled designs. I really can't imagine them creating enough restriction to choke anything.
      Dude.... telling you from 100% experience and can take a picture. I have that exact same magnfalow from an old 42dd kit, and adding it behind my Aero Turbine 3" I lost spool, power, response and it was noticable. The car quieted down some sure, but at a price. The holes inside the magnaflow that go into the packing area allow heat/pressure to be lost along with noise.

      Much like we have 914's and mirror builds minus the avante I'd suggest making one removable for go fast days, and building another pipe from muffler 1 to exit for those days to avoid open downpipe under the car drone.

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      08-03-2012 08:24 PM #19
      Time for a different exhaust.


      Ordered a dynomax VT.

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      08-04-2012 07:30 AM #20
      Quote Originally Posted by joedubs View Post
      Time for a different exhaust.


      Ordered a dynomax VT.
      Im running one and planning to get rid of it. The rattle is f*ckin annoying.


      Here's a vid of my car with the dynomax VT @ idle.

      http://youtu.be/K0ucacCtXD4

      Thats with a TD05H-20G turbo(psi concepts turbo kit).

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      08-14-2012 10:03 AM #21
      I have a straight silver hood on the 98 FWD parts car I have here.

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      08-14-2012 10:11 AM #22
      Trade ya? :-)
      Car is much quieter with the VT, but still way loud. It doesn't rattle unless I turn on the head lights and the idle drops due to alternator draw. I may add a cat to quiet it down a little more.

      Thinking about an ME7 swap too. Never ending project.

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      08-14-2012 10:30 AM #23
      Quote Originally Posted by joedubs View Post
      Trade ya? :-)
      Car is much quieter with the VT, but still way loud. It doesn't rattle unless I turn on the head lights and the idle drops due to alternator draw. I may add a cat to quiet it down a little more.

      Thinking about an ME7 swap too. Never ending project.
      Sure, throw in a few dollars and you have a deal. I'll take a closer look at it when I get home tonight

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      08-20-2012 04:21 AM #24
      Quote Originally Posted by joedubs View Post
      Trade ya? :-)
      Car is much quieter with the VT, but still way loud. It doesn't rattle unless I turn on the head lights and the idle drops due to alternator draw. I may add a cat to quiet it down a little more.

      Thinking about an ME7 swap too. Never ending project.
      I was about to buy the >4L version until I read this.

      Looks like a 2 muffler setup it is. I wonder what's the effect of running an aluminum pipe?

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      08-25-2012 02:42 PM #25
      Definitely stay away from the VT.
      Again, it's not that it's bad, it's just that i dont think it lives up to the hype.

      I'm going to try and find an s4 3" milltek.

    26. 08-25-2012 03:09 PM #26
      Quote Originally Posted by joedubs View Post
      Definitely stay away from the VT.
      Again, it's not that it's bad, it's just that i dont think it lives up to the hype.

      I'm going to try and find an s4 3" milltek.
      My old milltek was closer to 2 3/4" iirc
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      08-26-2012 05:12 PM #27
      Hmm. I thought A4 version is 2.5, s4 single is supposed to be 3". Maybe I'm wrong.

    28. 08-26-2012 06:14 PM #28
      Quote Originally Posted by joedubs View Post
      Hmm. I thought A4 version is 2.5, s4 single is supposed to be 3". Maybe I'm wrong.
      Mine was on an B5 A41.8TQ.
      Quote Originally Posted by gdoggmoney View Post
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      08-26-2012 08:29 PM #29
      A4 milltek is 2.75 and s4 is 3in

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      08-29-2012 10:16 AM #30
      Quote Originally Posted by joedubs View Post
      Definitely stay away from the VT.
      Again, it's not that it's bad, it's just that i dont think it lives up to the hype.

      I'm going to try and find an s4 3" milltek.
      I'm gonna tack weld the butterfly valve to remain open. Sounds heaps better. With it closed, it sounds like ****.

      I managed to get the valve to remain open(temporarily)..not loud at all..just that at certain speeds, the drone is pretty bad.

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