Official 2012 Formula 1 Santander British Grand Prix

[gizmopop]

We are almost at the halfway point of the 2012 season, for the home race of not only some of the drivers, but also some of the teams.



Thoughts?

[kfzmeister]

We are almost at the halfway point of the 2012 season, for the home race of not only some of the drivers, but also some of the teams.
Thoughts?

If Massa thinks the F2012 should suit the circuit, then Alonso definitely should have another good showing.
It is said that the Lotus should go well here and i've even heard that the RB is suited for the circuit, but who really knows? I'm thinking that last weekend's RB pace looked a little deceiving. I mean Vettel blasted off, but everyone got caught behind the Ham-train. And even if Vettel pulled a gap again, who's to say that he just didn't thrash his tires just to get another stop in there (alas Schumacher at Magny Cours in '04?).....
Macca? Well what can you say? Unfortunately the odds are better at betting against their pitstops than a podium....

[jsmyle1%...]

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Macca? Well what can you say? Unfortunately the odds are better at betting against their pitstops than a podium....

Agreed...

[gizmopop]

Yeah considering Macca's pitstop performance this year, every one of their races should aim for a 1 stop strategy...

[mx5er]

What's with Red Bull's new livery?



Upon closer examination, it looks like something they did back in 2008:



Last time, you uploaded a picture of yourself and donated some money to a charity. But I'm guessing this time it has something to do with Facebook.

[hemanthjava]

British Grand Prix 2012 Live Stream Watch Online free here. The 2012 British Grand Prix is a Formula One motor race scheduled to take place at the Silverstone Circuit in Northamptonshire and Buckinghamshire, England on 8 July 2012.

http://www.sportsbun.com/formula1/br...eam-f1-online/

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[gizmopop]

Grosjean tops first practice session in the wet...

Edit:2nd practice over...

1 4 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1:56.345 8
2 14 Kamui Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 1:56.474 0.129 16
3 7 Michael Schumacher Mercedes 1:56.545 0.200 12
4 8 Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1:56.567 0.222 9
5 15 Sergio Perez Sauber-Ferrari 1:57.493 1.148 13
6 3 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1:57.948 1.603 9
7 20 Heikki Kovalainen Caterham-Renault 1:58.580 2.235 10
8 9 Kimi Räikkönen Lotus-Renault 1:58.897 2.552 8
9 12 Nico Hulkenberg Force India-Mercedes 1:58.943 2.598 12
10 5 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1:59.015 2.670 14
11 11 Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes 1:59.429 3.084 9
12 18 Pastor Maldonado Williams-Renault 1:59.472 3.127 6
13 1 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull Racing-Renault 1:59.476 3.131 10
14 17 Jean-Eric Vergne STR-Ferrari 1:59.854 3.509 7
15 6 Felipe Massa Ferrari 2:00.565 4.220 7
16 24 Timo Glock Marussia-Cosworth 2:00.820 4.475 11
17 19 Bruno Senna Williams-Renault 2:01.099 4.754 6
18 21 Vitaly Petrov Caterham-Renault 2:01.348 5.003 12
19 25 Charles Pic Marussia-Cosworth 2:03.719 7.374 8
20 23 Narain Karthikeyan HRT-Cosworth 2:04.774 8.429 8
21 10 Romain Grosjean Lotus-Renault No time 1
22 16 Daniel Ricciardo STR-Ferrari No time 2
23 2 Mark Webber Red Bull Racing-Renault No time 1
24 22 Pedro de la Rosa HRT-Cosworth No time 0

[GTIVRSEX2]

If its a wet race Massa will win!

[kfzmeister]

Grosjean tops first practice session in the wet...

Edit:2nd practice over...

1 4 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1:56.345 8
2 14 Kamui Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari ............

Look at those times! Hamilton laid down a blistering lap......
Did anybody do much more than a few installation laps??

[R8TD///M]

If its a wet race Massa will win!

oh yeah absolutely

[gizmopop]

Look at those times! Hamilton laid down a blistering lap......
Did anybody do much more than a few installation laps??

Results from the first practice session for comparison...Both sessions were wet.

1 10 Romain Grosjean Lotus-Renault 1:56.552 13
2 16 Daniel Ricciardo STR-Ferrari 1:56.827 0.275 10
3 4 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1:57.174 0.622 6
4 15 Sergio Perez Sauber-Ferrari 1:57.664 1.112 11
5 6 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:58.119 1.567 7
6 2 Mark Webber Red Bull Racing-Renault 1:58.463 1.911 7
7 14 Kamui Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 1:58.483 1.931 19
8 7 Michael Schumacher Mercedes 1:58.493 1.941 10
9 8 Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1:58.942 2.390 8
10 17 Jean-Eric Vergne STR-Ferrari 1:59.076 2.524 12
11 1 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull Racing-Renault 1:59.414 2.862 11
12 21 Vitaly Petrov Caterham-Renault 1:59.614 3.062 9
13 19 Valtteri Bottas Williams-Renault 1:59.733 3.181 7
14 20 Heikki Kovalainen Caterham-Renault 1:59.787 3.235 10
15 18 Pastor Maldonado Williams-Renault 2:00.125 3.573 5
16 9 Kimi Räikkönen Lotus-Renault 2:00.253 3.701 6
17 3 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 2:01.834 5.282 6
18 24 Timo Glock Marussia-Cosworth 2:01.835 5.283 6
19 22 Pedro de la Rosa HRT-Cosworth 2:04.341 7.789 9
20 23 Dani Clos HRT-Cosworth 2:05.022 8.470 11
21 25 Charles Pic Marussia-Cosworth 2:11.760 15.208 6
22 5 Fernando Alonso Ferrari No time 4
23 11 Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes No time 3
24 12 Jules Bianchi Force India-Mercedes No time 1

Grosjean's time from the first session is still pretty good...

I think someone switched Massa's setup with Alonso's though....

[kfzmeister]

I think someone switched Massa's setup with Alonso's though....

Alonso would leave Massa in the dust with Pedro's HRT!

Btw, i heard that Fernando's picture is on the RBR this weekend.

[mx5er]

Will Buxton's rant about the new pit complex at Silverstone was brilliant

[Mk1Racer]

P3 results. At least this session was dry!

1	5	Fernando Alonso	Ferrari	1:32.167		21
2	3	Jenson Button	McLaren-Mercedes	1:32.320	0.153	20
3	10	Romain Grosjean	Lotus-Renault	1:32.358	0.191	25
4	1	Sebastian Vettel	Red Bull Racing-Renault	1:32.420	0.253	21
5	9	Kimi Räikkönen	Lotus-Renault	1:32.454	0.287	25
6	4	Lewis Hamilton	McLaren-Mercedes	1:32.477	0.310	20
7	18	Pastor Maldonado	Williams-Renault	1:32.622	0.455	21
8	15	Sergio Perez	Sauber-Ferrari	1:32.940	0.773	19
9	14	Kamui Kobayashi	Sauber-Ferrari	1:33.046	0.879	20
10	12	Nico Hulkenberg	Force India-Mercedes	1:33.150	0.983	19
11	19	Bruno Senna	Williams-Renault	1:33.267	1.100	25
12	11	Paul di Resta	Force India-Mercedes	1:33.367	1.200	20
13	2	Mark Webber	Red Bull Racing-Renault	1:33.398	1.231	24
14	7	Michael Schumacher	Mercedes	1:33.462	1.295	24
15	17	Jean-Eric Vergne	STR-Ferrari	1:33.673	1.506	22
16	6	Felipe Massa	Ferrari	1:33.674	1.507	21
17	16	Daniel Ricciardo	STR-Ferrari	1:33.707	1.540	21
18	8	Nico Rosberg	Mercedes	1:33.733	1.566	15
19	20	Heikki Kovalainen	Caterham-Renault	1:34.298	2.131	18
20	21	Vitaly Petrov	Caterham-Renault	1:34.781	2.614	20
21	24	Timo Glock	Marussia-Cosworth	1:36.605	4.438	18
22	25	Charles Pic	Marussia-Cosworth	1:37.060	4.893	14
23	23	Narain Karthikeyan	HRT-Cosworth	1:37.269	5.102	23
24	22	Pedro de la Rosa	HRT-Cosworth	1:37.429	5.262	17

[kfzmeister]

.050 of a second, Baby!!!!!!

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Hell yeah!!

[rscshakespeare]

well done alonso, schumacher and vettel.

button could be the suprise with lots of tyres.

hamilton not even in the picture, but again rain does bring lottery.

[kfzmeister]

well done alonso, schumacher and webber.

There, i fixed it for ya!

hamilton not even in the picture, but again rain does bring lottery.

Hmmm, is that Pastor starting next to him?

[nickthaskater]

Red flagging Q2 was a BS move. Teams and drivers chose to wait and go out late and the chose to drive too hard for the conditions, and yet they're rewarded for it. Retarded.

[kfzmeister]

You would not have said that had Vettel been on pole.

[nickthaskater]

You would not have said that had Vettel been on pole.

I don't give a sh*t who ended up on pole, I'm irked at the principle of the matter: it was a bogus move and those other teams got screwed. I would have loved to have seen some underdogs that made the better call make it through rather than the usual suspects.

But you can think whatever you want

[kfzmeister]

I don't give a sh*t who ended up on pole, I'm irked at the principle of the matter: it was a bogus move and those other teams got screwed. I would have loved to have seen some underdogs that made the better call make it through rather than the usual suspects.

But you can think whatever you want

People spinning, cars aquaplaning, potential crashes.........they made the right call.
Plus it gave Alonso a second chance at pole.

[nickthaskater]

People spinning, cars aquaplaning, potential crashes.........they made the right call.
Plus it gave Alonso a second chance at pole.

Are the teams and drivers not big boys and girls? They chose to go out for a lap when they knew the conditions were sketchy; they could have just as easily kept the car in the paddock if they felt they couldn't run.

If they wanted to delay the NEXT session, sure, that would make sense, but don't stop the current session and screw over those who made the right call to go out early with the appropriate set-up just because the big teams moaned about not being competitive in the worsening conditions.

For the record, the risks you mentioned are prevalent any time it's raining, especially at a track with drainage as poor as Silverstone. They're hardly justification for red flagging a Qualifying session mid-way through. Like I said, let the clock run out and THEN have a break to let the weather clear if it's that bad.

/shrug I just feel we were robbed of a potentially very exciting race in favour of one much less so.

[kfzmeister]

Are the teams and drivers not big boys and girls?

Ahhh, yes and the majority teams and drivers agreed that it was the correct thing to do. Even your boi Vettel said so.......

[nickthaskater]

Ahhh, yes and the majority teams and drivers agreed that it was the correct thing to do. Even your boi Vettel said so.......

The majority? The only ones I saw were those either in the knockout zone or those about to be (Vettel was 10th at the time).

PS. Got any other tricks up your sleeve aside from bringing up Vettel every chance you have?

[Mk1Racer]

Less than an hour to the start of the race and the weather looks pretty dodgy. Is everyone starting on inters, full wets, or drys? Temp not supposed to get above the mid-60's, and there's a 60% chance of rain the rest of the day. Should make for an interesting race!

[Oliver@triplezoom]

Did Perez just drop an F-bomb on the BBC feed? Pretty harsh words for Pastor.

[Double-V]

Normally that would likely be a racing incident, but Pastor attracts incidents like flies on sh^t. He needs to get his poop together.

TSN was caught out by the new interview format.

[rscshakespeare]

hard fought alonso. he deserved to win this one.

well done to the red bull boys. this could be webbers year. that would be nice to see.

was hoping for schumacher but at least he got points....

go kimi..

mclaren need to get their act together. MW said they would be fast in either all dry or all wet but nothing intermediate. they got raped.

[nickthaskater]

hard fought alonso. he deserved to win this

In what sense? It was a straight-up race; no flags or safety cars to dictate the finish. The deserving driver was the one on the top step. It's not like Ferrari had an underperforming car here either if Felipe's 4th is anything to go by.

Decent enough race; good fight with Hamilton v. Alonso and Webber v. Alonso. Relatively forgetful overall, though I've never been a fan of Silverstone.

[rscshakespeare]

meaning, it sucks to lose out on first place in the remaining laps. nothing else was meant by it. webber did deserve it but i would have liked alonso to win. the end.

[Mk1Racer]

I was really surprised at how quick FA was on the hard tires off the start, compared to everyone else on the softs. I was also surprised that everyone else went w/ the hard tires for the third stint (except FA of course, who couldn't). I actually thought FA would be quicker w/ the soft tires in the third stint, w/ so much of the fuel gone from the car. I guess I should have realized something was up w/ the fresh hard tires were as fast, or faster than the fresh soft tires.

Congrats to MW on the win, he has shown that he certainly has the pace. But even bigger congrats to FM on his 4th! Best result since Korea '10. Looks like Ferrari has gotten their mid-season developement up to speed. Sucks for LH and JB (and McLaren). The way things are going, LH will be lucky to be in the top-5 of the WDC, at the end of the year. Who knows what's wrong? Also, both Ferrari and Lotus/Renault jumped them in the WCC.

Not sure what is going on w/ Mercedes either. I think the only reason MS was 3rd on the grid was due to the wet qualifying.

I know there's a long way to go, but it's been an interesting season so far. Will MW and FA battle for the WDC all the way to Brazil? Will SV stay in the hunt? Will McLaren get their act together and give LH and JB a winning car? Kind of glad the season isn't even half over yet!

[kfzmeister]

the end.

Lol

Pastor needs a harsh warning. He clearly pulled the same move as on Hamilton a few weeks ago, meaning that he made no effort to pull the wheel to the left to avoid the other car.

I was a little baffled when Ferrari pulled in Alonso on lap 16 to change his hards. It seems like he should have been able to go longer. Webber came in just a lap before with his softs! If Alonso would have gone 3-4 laps longer on the hards, could he have won? Hamilton went 22 laps on his hards!

Did anyone notice that Ferrari skipped both Lotus AND McLaren in the Constructors this weekend??

Gonna be a good July. 2 more races....

[nickthaskater]

It looked to me like Pastor simply lost the front end in sudden understeer and couldn't catch it in time. But he's a victim of his own behaviour really, the boy who cried wolf a few roo many times. If he had a cleaner record he probably could have gotten the benefit of the doubt with this one.