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      07-07-2012 11:50 PM #26
      Quote Originally Posted by kfzmeister View Post
      Ahhh, yes and the majority teams and drivers agreed that it was the correct thing to do. Even your boi Vettel said so.......
      The majority? The only ones I saw were those either in the knockout zone or those about to be (Vettel was 10th at the time).

      PS. Got any other tricks up your sleeve aside from bringing up Vettel every chance you have?

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      07-08-2012 07:24 AM #27
      Less than an hour to the start of the race and the weather looks pretty dodgy. Is everyone starting on inters, full wets, or drys? Temp not supposed to get above the mid-60's, and there's a 60% chance of rain the rest of the day. Should make for an interesting race!

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      07-08-2012 08:44 AM #28
      Did Perez just drop an F-bomb on the BBC feed? Pretty harsh words for Pastor.

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      07-08-2012 10:24 AM #29
      Normally that would likely be a racing incident, but Pastor attracts incidents like flies on sh^t. He needs to get his poop together.

      TSN was caught out by the new interview format.
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    5. 07-08-2012 10:51 AM #30
      hard fought alonso. he deserved to win this one.

      well done to the red bull boys. this could be webbers year. that would be nice to see.

      was hoping for schumacher but at least he got points....

      go kimi..

      mclaren need to get their act together. MW said they would be fast in either all dry or all wet but nothing intermediate. they got raped.

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      07-08-2012 01:57 PM #31
      Quote Originally Posted by rscshakespeare View Post
      hard fought alonso. he deserved to win this
      In what sense? It was a straight-up race; no flags or safety cars to dictate the finish. The deserving driver was the one on the top step. It's not like Ferrari had an underperforming car here either if Felipe's 4th is anything to go by.

      Decent enough race; good fight with Hamilton v. Alonso and Webber v. Alonso. Relatively forgetful overall, though I've never been a fan of Silverstone.

    7. 07-08-2012 03:15 PM #32
      meaning, it sucks to lose out on first place in the remaining laps. nothing else was meant by it. webber did deserve it but i would have liked alonso to win. the end.

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      07-08-2012 06:36 PM #33
      I was really surprised at how quick FA was on the hard tires off the start, compared to everyone else on the softs. I was also surprised that everyone else went w/ the hard tires for the third stint (except FA of course, who couldn't). I actually thought FA would be quicker w/ the soft tires in the third stint, w/ so much of the fuel gone from the car. I guess I should have realized something was up w/ the fresh hard tires were as fast, or faster than the fresh soft tires.

      Congrats to MW on the win, he has shown that he certainly has the pace. But even bigger congrats to FM on his 4th! Best result since Korea '10. Looks like Ferrari has gotten their mid-season developement up to speed. Sucks for LH and JB (and McLaren). The way things are going, LH will be lucky to be in the top-5 of the WDC, at the end of the year. Who knows what's wrong? Also, both Ferrari and Lotus/Renault jumped them in the WCC.

      Not sure what is going on w/ Mercedes either. I think the only reason MS was 3rd on the grid was due to the wet qualifying.

      I know there's a long way to go, but it's been an interesting season so far. Will MW and FA battle for the WDC all the way to Brazil? Will SV stay in the hunt? Will McLaren get their act together and give LH and JB a winning car? Kind of glad the season isn't even half over yet!

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      07-08-2012 06:55 PM #34
      Quote Originally Posted by rscshakespeare View Post
      the end.
      Lol

      Pastor needs a harsh warning. He clearly pulled the same move as on Hamilton a few weeks ago, meaning that he made no effort to pull the wheel to the left to avoid the other car.

      I was a little baffled when Ferrari pulled in Alonso on lap 16 to change his hards. It seems like he should have been able to go longer. Webber came in just a lap before with his softs! If Alonso would have gone 3-4 laps longer on the hards, could he have won? Hamilton went 22 laps on his hards!

      Did anyone notice that Ferrari skipped both Lotus AND McLaren in the Constructors this weekend??

      Gonna be a good July. 2 more races....
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      07-08-2012 08:31 PM #35
      It looked to me like Pastor simply lost the front end in sudden understeer and couldn't catch it in time. But he's a victim of his own behaviour really, the boy who cried wolf a few roo many times. If he had a cleaner record he probably could have gotten the benefit of the doubt with this one.

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      07-08-2012 09:38 PM #36
      Pastor is 10,000 Euros lighter and also received a smack on the bottom. I don't know if he is paid enough for that to make a difference or not.
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    12. 07-08-2012 10:12 PM #37
      Pastor got a 25,000 fine. Kobayashi got the 10,000 one
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      07-08-2012 11:31 PM #38
      Quote Originally Posted by A3VWGOLF View Post
      Pastor got a 25,000 fine. Kobayashi got the 10,000 one
      Autosport is reporting the opposite.
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      No, the real enthusiast vehicle would be the RX8. It combines V12 Lamborghini gas mileage with Hyundai Genesis 4cyl. performance.

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      07-08-2012 11:36 PM #39
      Official F1 website states:
      Maldonado was adjudged to have caused his collision with Sergio Perez, which led to the Sauber driver’s retirement, and due to the seriousness of the incident received a double penalty in the form of a reprimand and a 25,000 euro fine.

      Kobayashi overshot his pit box during a stop, knocking over three Sauber mechanics. Thankfully none was seriously injured, but stewards fined the Japanese driver 10,000 euro for ‘a very dangerous manoeuvre which had potentially serious implications’.

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      07-08-2012 11:44 PM #40
      OK, so Autosport got it backwards.

      Maldonado fined, reprimanded for Perez incident during the British GP
      By Jonathan Noble Sunday, July 8th 2012, 16:34 GMT

      Pastor Maldonado was handed a 10,000 Euro fine and given a reprimand by the race stewards for his part in a collision with Sergio Perez during the British Grand Prix.

      Perez was left furious after the coming-together - urging the FIA to teach Maldonado a lesson following a spate of crashes so far this season.

      But after a detailed look at the incident on Sunday, the stewards elected to fine the Williams driver instead.

      A statement issued by the stewards said Maldonado was guilty of causing a collision, and because of the serious nature of the incident it was decided he would be hit with two penalties.

      Maldonado said the crash with Perez had not been deliberate, and that he had simply lost control of the car on the entry to the corner.

      "I think it was unlucky this time because I lost the car on the entry to the corner, right on the apex with the front and then the rear," he told AUTOSPORT.

      "It was before I got to the kerb, and it was after I came out of the pits with DRS open. I did the braking on DRS, and I even braked before my normal braking point, and the reason [for the accident is] I think because the angle I had on the inside of the corner was not enough for the tyre conditions."




      Kobayashi fined 25,000 Euro for his incident in the pits during the British Grand Prix
      By Pablo Elizalde Sunday, July 8th 2012, 16:37 GMT

      Kamui Kobayashi has been fined 25,000 Euro for his incident in the pits during the British Grand Prix.

      The Japanese Sauber driver braked too late when coming in for his second pitstop and knocked down three of his mechanics. None were seriously injured.

      The FIA decided to impose a fine on Kobayashi for an "unsafe manoeuvre in the pits".

      "The accident was my fault and I want to apologise to the team," said Kobayashi. "Of course I had to push hard for points, but without doubt I braked too late in the pitlane.

      "The front wheels locked, I couldn't control the car, and this is how I overshot the pit box. I am terribly sorry this happened, and I hope the three mechanics I hit get well soon."
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      No, the real enthusiast vehicle would be the RX8. It combines V12 Lamborghini gas mileage with Hyundai Genesis 4cyl. performance.

    16. 07-09-2012 09:02 AM #41
      remember when the 2012 cars were revealed and everyone made fun at the noses and said mclaren were the most gorgeous cars in the world and they will stomp on everybody bla bla bla...... does everyone remember....

      lewis' words below...

      You've got to look at the cars in detail - just look at them and ours look different from the others."

      And, taking a quick look at the McLaren in relation to its rivals, the most notable difference is the car's nose as the MP4-27 does not feature the stubby boxer nose.

      "That's a significant difference," Hamilton continued.

      "I'm not an aerodynamicist but there's got to be something there, so that's what we're looking at for this car, but also for next year's car.

      "It is too big a change for this season.

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      07-09-2012 09:49 AM #42
      Dude, not that i'm into Hamilton bashing at the moment (all the fanbois have left this building anyways and the Hamilton report is dying another slow death ), but McLaren is in a real funk. Can't believe how they've dropped off.
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      07-09-2012 10:08 AM #43
      Quote Originally Posted by kfzmeister View Post
      Dude, not that i'm into Hamilton bashing at the moment (all the fanbois have left this building anyways and the Hamilton report is dying another slow death ), but McLaren is in a real funk. Can't believe how they've dropped off.
      Hammie has always been truthful with how he feels the team and car are performing - a welcomed sight in F1 IMO. Right now the car seems to be dropping off the pace with each successive race. Perhaps they have gotten to the end of the viable improvements without drastically changing the car and no team wants to put that kind of resource into a car half way through the season. What I did find a little funny was that Hammie felt the need to radio the team that Roman was breathing down his neck and had to be reminded of his own strategy and to do his best to keep Roman behind him.

      Maldenado is a chump...that's two races now where he has rammed other drivers off the road. Yes, he got penalized for both incidences, but he is the only driver it seems that cannot recognize when to give up the corner. I was surprised that Perez held back as much as he did in the interview about the incident.

      Alonso drove one hell of a race, but it was only a matter of time before Webber passed him. Webber is a different beast at Silverstone like Hammie is at Canada. However, it seems that Ferrari have found their stride as Massa was up in the points too! Kimi and roman had a great race too...especially Roman! Does anyone think that Renault can win this season? The media seem to think it's just a matter of time, but they seem to screw it up somehow with either bad luck or making their own mistakes.

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      07-09-2012 10:21 AM #44
      yup pretty fun race overall. Was fun to see Lewis vs. Alonso back and forth.

      And I agree with what was posted earlier, Ferrari could've gone longer with Alonso's first stint but I think he could've been stuck behind slower cars because of that. Either way, great run by Webber to keep pace and bring the fight towards the end.

      Sucks for Lewis and Jensen this weekend - wonder if they were betting on rain during the race and had their aero setup accordingly... Lotus is a beastly car! They're fast!! I'm looking forward to seeing their first win come, soon. Their development pace is also up there with the other big teams (well, better than Merc and McL at this point).

      Pastor - no wonder other drivers weren't too happy when he won in Barcelona. A few drivers at that point came out publicly about the "lottery" situation.

    20. 07-09-2012 01:35 PM #45
      Grosjean did awesome, going to the back of the pack and working his was up to 6th. Really it's a matter of time before one of them gets a win.

      Did anyone see that opening video from Fox? That was damn hilarious. I can't find it online though.

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      07-09-2012 03:28 PM #46
      Quote Originally Posted by Binary Star View Post
      Was fun to see Lewis vs. Alonso back and forth.
      I thoroughly enjoyed Alonso leaving Hamilton behind like that. Not sure why Hamilton even tried to race. No way he was gonna keep him behind. I was just as excited when Schumacher easily went by him as well towards the end.
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      07-09-2012 04:36 PM #47
      Quote Originally Posted by kfzmeister View Post
      I thoroughly enjoyed Alonso leaving Hamilton behind like that. Not sure why Hamilton even tried to race. No way he was gonna keep him behind. I was just as excited when Schumacher easily went by him as well towards the end.
      I dont know if its true, but I heard that Michael did not have "kers" in Silverstone?

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      07-09-2012 04:53 PM #48
      Quote Originally Posted by kfzmeister View Post
      I thoroughly enjoyed Alonso leaving Hamilton behind like that. Not sure why Hamilton even tried to race.
      Because it's Alonso!

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      07-09-2012 05:35 PM #49
      Quote Originally Posted by kfzmeister View Post
      I thoroughly enjoyed Alonso leaving Hamilton behind like that. Not sure why Hamilton even tried to race. No way he was gonna keep him behind. I was just as excited when Schumacher easily went by him as well towards the end.
      Why wouldn't he try to race? That's why he's out there. He could have forced Alonso into a potentially race-ending error.

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      07-09-2012 05:55 PM #50
      Quote Originally Posted by nickthaskater View Post
      Why wouldn't he try to race? That's why he's out there. He could have forced Alonso into a potentially race-ending error.
      You remember how "tryin to race " cost him at Valencia?
      He's now 37 points behind WDC leader......
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