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    Thread: Vancouver teen is going Big Turbo!

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      07-09-2012 12:07 PM #26
      Quote Originally Posted by 20VCanuck View Post
      If I have the funds by the time I go to install this, I will try and pick up a catch can.

      Where abouts are you located chicken? Do you have any experience with maestro? are you on dubberz?
      Not on Dubbers very often...but I may be more often now as I'm fed up with the Knuckle heads on this Forum. All the intelligent life here has left. I'm in Coquitlam, PM me and I'll give you my Phone number. I've also go a VAG-COM if you need to borrow it.

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      07-09-2012 12:36 PM #27
      Quote Originally Posted by Chickenman35 View Post
      MadMax valve ( Modified EVO X valve ) is the way to go. Piston valves such as the Forge etc are just too slow and flow restricted.

      http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea...diverter+valve

      Synpase Synchronic is pretty good as well:

      http://www.nolimitmotorsport.com/prod/16503A
      I caught the 4th of July sale and ordered http://synapseengineering.pinnacleca...rs-560-16.html from Synapse Engineering to replace my R1... I'm hoping it's similar in performance to the Madmax DV

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      07-09-2012 12:40 PM #28
      Quote Originally Posted by Chickenman35 View Post
      I'm not spewing misinfo Dude. Do some research

      Oil contamination from not running a PCV system is an engineering fact. I didn't just make it up Dude. Do any oil analysis? I bet not..so how the frik would you know what's happening to your oil? Go do some research at intelligent sites like BobIsThe Oil Guy before you post your lame comments. And BTW, some people actually have AC and drive with the windows up.

      And have you done ANY research on piston style valves other than your seat of the pants experience. There is plenty of Hard Core data on the net that shows ACTUAL response times, flow rates and ability to hold boost. The Forge Piston units ( 004,007, and 008 ) all rated poorly. There are multiple testing reports on You-Tube by various independent sources...look them up. There are multiple threads on this site showing the actual weakness of Piston type valves. Most are all copy cats of the Forge series, which is dated and not of the best design..

      Guys like you are the reason why most of the " intelligent " posters to Vortex 1.8T Forum have left. Narrow minded and drink the Vortex Kool-Aid. Guys like Aaron, Steve, Max, Lugnuts just to name a few.

      You try and help out with knowledge gained through 35+ years of racing and working in the Automotive industry and you get treated like crap by dick heads. So I'm outa here too...
      blah blah blah, guyS like me this... blah blah blah, guys like me that... lay off with that bull$hit ur*high*ness. u don't even know me you can do all the studies you want about reactions times, etc. still does not negate the fact that Forge sells more than any of the other companies you named or the fact that 99% of their customers love their products. also, i could give a $hit about the "intelligent" posters or why you say they left you can kick rocks too for all i care

      LIKE I SAID BEFORE, I HAVE NO FRIENDS ON HERE AND I'VE NEVER HELPED ANYONE
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      07-09-2012 12:51 PM #29
      and i dont need a lab test to tell me if my oil is contaminated lol i've been changing my own oils long enough to notice these things
      My Thread Fk AK Coilovers, Full 3" Exhaust, Custom FMIC, Forge Evo14 BOV, Forge Unos MBC, Forge Throttle Body Hose, Prothane Dog Bone Mount, BFI STG 1 Eng/Trans Mounts, Sachs VR6 Clutch Kit, TT Short Shifter, Siemens 630s, Walbro 255, DBB Garrett 50 Trim Turbo Kit, Eurodyne 630cc MAFLESS PAGPARTS FTW -- STEVEBILT.COM -- Integrated Engineering -- FourSeasonTuning.com Don't Buy Anything From *ChunkyPeanuts*

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      07-09-2012 04:39 PM #30
      Well, I'll get this back on topic by posting some more pictures!

      Intake setup


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      Before engine bay
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      07-09-2012 05:39 PM #31
      Quote Originally Posted by 20VCanuck View Post
      Well, I'll get this back on topic by posting some more pictures!

      Intake setup

      Hey, I have an intake that looks just like that! For real tho, isn't the construction of that thing nice? Heavy Duty lol. are you actually going to use the cold air extension? most people swear CAI's dont do anything, this one does

      My Thread Fk AK Coilovers, Full 3" Exhaust, Custom FMIC, Forge Evo14 BOV, Forge Unos MBC, Forge Throttle Body Hose, Prothane Dog Bone Mount, BFI STG 1 Eng/Trans Mounts, Sachs VR6 Clutch Kit, TT Short Shifter, Siemens 630s, Walbro 255, DBB Garrett 50 Trim Turbo Kit, Eurodyne 630cc MAFLESS PAGPARTS FTW -- STEVEBILT.COM -- Integrated Engineering -- FourSeasonTuning.com Don't Buy Anything From *ChunkyPeanuts*

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      07-09-2012 05:53 PM #32
      My guess is it sucks up water and lots of dirt, mud, etc.
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      07-09-2012 06:09 PM #33
      Quote Originally Posted by Three3Se7en View Post
      My guess is it sucks up water and lots of dirt, mud, etc.
      LOL, n3v@R! you should have 1 too lol. i'm just running the short ram right now. occasionally, i thorw on the cold air extension for moar awesomeness
      My Thread Fk AK Coilovers, Full 3" Exhaust, Custom FMIC, Forge Evo14 BOV, Forge Unos MBC, Forge Throttle Body Hose, Prothane Dog Bone Mount, BFI STG 1 Eng/Trans Mounts, Sachs VR6 Clutch Kit, TT Short Shifter, Siemens 630s, Walbro 255, DBB Garrett 50 Trim Turbo Kit, Eurodyne 630cc MAFLESS PAGPARTS FTW -- STEVEBILT.COM -- Integrated Engineering -- FourSeasonTuning.com Don't Buy Anything From *ChunkyPeanuts*

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      07-09-2012 11:21 PM #34
      OP --

      Great pix of your hardware! You have an exciting project ahead of you! Here's a bit of opinions from a "small turbo" guy:

      don't over-think your DV. So long as yours is functional, it'll be fine while you dial in 1000 other things.

      PLEASE run a MAF. I know it's debatable whether you can reach max power output while the ECU is seeing grams/sec, but for the other 99% of your driving, you'll be happy to have the input from that sensor. I recommend the Hitachi MAF/sensor for such a big power output. And get yourself modern, EV14-type fuel injectors. Even the 1000cc units idle beautifully.

      Good luck on the build!

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      07-10-2012 03:06 AM #35
      Quote Originally Posted by Big_Tom View Post
      Hey, I have an intake that looks just like that! For real tho, isn't the construction of that thing nice? Heavy Duty lol
      Yes, I had a K&N cai a little while ago. I since have sold it, but it felt like tin foil compared to this! I will probably run the cold air extension! Btw, I ordered that ebay fmic piping kit. Showed up, was the wrong shiz, anyway I sent it back today. Clay hooked me up on the cts piping kit

      Quote Originally Posted by doug@frankenturbo.com View Post
      OP --


      PLEASE run a MAF. I know it's debatable whether you can reach max power output while the ECU is seeing grams/sec, but for the other 99% of your driving, you'll be happy to have the input from that sensor. I recommend the Hitachi MAF/sensor for such a big power output. And get yourself modern, EV14-type fuel injectors. Even the 1000cc units idle beautifully.

      Good luck on the build!


      I think I will run a MAF, as drivibility is really what its all about. Ya, I want a fast car, but its my dd and I will be driving to school/work everyday. Would the vr housing work?2.75 ID I believe. Stock sensor?

      I have already bought the injectors. Are the siemens 630cc's that bad? I mean, I suppose I could probably exhange them. Just wondering if its worth my time/effort
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      07-10-2012 09:18 AM #36
      Quote Originally Posted by 20VCanuck View Post
      Yes, I had a K&N cai a little while ago. I since have sold it, but it felt like tin foil compared to this! I will probably run the cold air extension! Btw, I ordered that ebay fmic piping kit. Showed up, was the wrong shiz, anyway I sent it back today. Clay hooked me up on the cts piping kit





      I think I will run a MAF, as drivibility is really what its all about. Ya, I want a fast car, but its my dd and I will be driving to school/work everyday. Would the vr housing work?2.75 ID I believe. Stock sensor?

      I have already bought the injectors. Are the siemens 630cc's that bad? I mean, I suppose I could probably exhange them. Just wondering if its worth my time/effort
      yea the CTS CAI doe's make the others feel like tin foil sucks, they sent u the wrong piping i'm sure the CTS piping is better anyways. Man I don't know about these 630cc inj. I've had mine for over 2 yrs, have never heard the car idle perfectly in closed loop. It used to idle fine in open loop, but now not really there either. Other than that they are awesome and have given me no problems. Keep in mind I've never taken a log, and can' seem to get any of the Eurodyne dealers in FL to tweak my tune. I don't want maestro, one of them says i need that. USP Motorsports won't tune cars they didn't build. White Automotive which is about 30 mins from my house says he can't do it, I have to take it to the place i orginally bought the tune from. if u have a tuner near by or have maestro, you'll be fine. if not for with bosch 550cc or 725cc.

      I guess i'll have to take a road trip to NY and visit Arnold @ PAG to get my idle sorted out. It's not too bad, but it is kinda annoying after a couple yrs
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      07-10-2012 10:27 AM #37
      Quote Originally Posted by Big_Tom View Post
      I guess i'll have to take a road trip to NY and visit Arnold @ PAG to get my idle sorted out. It's not too bad, but it is kinda annoying after a couple yrs
      It's those Siemens injectors. Lousy spray pattern. Too bad there's no solid (inexpensive) alternative for 600+ cc flow.

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      07-10-2012 10:49 AM #38
      Quote Originally Posted by doug@frankenturbo.com View Post
      It's those Siemens injectors. Lousy spray pattern. Too bad there's no solid (inexpensive) alternative for 600+ cc flow.
      I'll probably be looking into some new Bosch injectors later on this year. I was gonna get them soon, but I'm working on my other car right now.
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      07-10-2012 12:10 PM #39
      Yeah 630's suck (I've got some 870's coming in this week). And yes please run a MAF. Theres a thread on diverter valves going on now. The concensus is the mad max valve being the alternative to large BOV's. Someone will correct me if I'm wrong.
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      07-10-2012 02:15 PM #40
      Maf it is. With the vr6 housing with the stock 1.8t sensor be okay? I get cost of oem parts so id rather rig that together then buying the cts housing.

      Im going to rock the baileys for now. If it gives me issues i'll go from there.

      I do have tuners all over here, and im about 25 minutes away from cts itself, that being said if the 630's are really going to give me headaches; what is the next injector suitable to my application?

      Would it be the id 725cc's? ouch, 2.5 times the price of the siemens
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      07-10-2012 02:34 PM #41
      Quote Originally Posted by 20VCanuck View Post
      Maf it is. With the vr6 housing with the stock 1.8t sensor be okay? I get cost of oem parts so id rather rig that together then buying the cts housing.

      Im going to rock the baileys for now. If it gives me issues i'll go from there.

      I do have tuners all over here, and im about 25 minutes away from cts itself, that being said if the 630's are really going to give me headaches; what is the next injector suitable to my application?

      Would it be the id 725cc's? ouch, 2.5 times the price of the siemens
      if tuning is not an issue, then just use the siemens injectors. you just cant slap them in and think all will be well. sometimes it is tho, but its not for me
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      07-13-2012 12:41 AM #42
      Little update today, got my 3" turbo back installed. No pictures yet as I am not happy with the tip setup, if I get it figured out tomorrow I'll post some pictures.

      FYI: For those buying a tsudo exhaust. Great exhaust, great sound, good quality. Poor fitment.
      If you do not have a hook up at an exhaust shop, or good welding skill I would go a different route.

      Guys at the exhaust shop said it took them almost 4 hours to hang and weld it all up. Luckily I got it done for 100 bucks cash.

      I am a happy camper
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      07-13-2012 12:46 AM #43
      Quote Originally Posted by 20VCanuck View Post
      Little update today, got my 3" turbo back installed. No pictures yet as I am not happy with the tip setup, if I get it figured out tomorrow I'll post some pictures.

      FYI: For those buying a tsudo exhaust. Great exhaust, great sound, good quality. Poor fitment.
      If you do not have a hook up at an exhaust shop, or good welding skill I would go a different route.

      Guys at the exhaust shop said it took them almost 4 hours to hang and weld it all up. Luckily I got it done for 100 bucks cash.

      I am a happy camper
      lol you lucked out on the price for that exhaust install you're probably gonna have to play with those heater core lines a bit for the TIP. i had 2
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      07-13-2012 12:50 AM #44
      Quote Originally Posted by 20VCanuck View Post
      Little update today, got my 3" turbo back installed. No pictures yet as I am not happy with the tip setup, if I get it figured out tomorrow I'll post some pictures.

      FYI: For those buying a tsudo exhaust. Great exhaust, great sound, good quality. Poor fitment.
      If you do not have a hook up at an exhaust shop, or good welding skill I would go a different route.

      Guys at the exhaust shop said it took them almost 4 hours to hang and weld it all up. Luckily I got it done for 100 bucks cash.

      I am a happy camper
      What exhaust shop did you use? A few locals, including myself, are looking for a good local shop. Shift Autosport in Burnaby is supposed to be good.....

      MufflerMan in Poco is good...but a bit pricey.
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      07-13-2012 02:29 AM #45
      Quote Originally Posted by Chickenman35 View Post
      What exhaust shop did you use? A few locals, including myself, are looking for a good local shop. Shift Autosport in Burnaby is supposed to be good.....

      MufflerMan in Poco is good...but a bit pricey.
      Well seeing I am in chilliwack, my local isn't really your local.

      I had it done at budget in chilliwack. My dad is high up at Napa Canada and works out of head office in langley, so I have a big network of places that I can usually score a deal at.


      On a side note which Maf should I be using?
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      07-13-2012 11:52 AM #46
      Quote Originally Posted by 20VCanuck View Post
      Well seeing I am in chilliwack, my local isn't really your local.

      I had it done at budget in chilliwack. My dad is high up at Napa Canada and works out of head office in langley, so I have a big network of places that I can usually score a deal at.


      On a side note which Maf should I be using?
      I would think a 3" MAF susch as one off of a VR6 should be sufficient. Use your stock sensor in the housing.

      On the side note. I was a dealership partsman for 17+ years ( Nissan , Honda Chrysler ). Still have many of my old connections too. Unfortunately, exhaust shops aren't on that list...
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      07-13-2012 11:17 PM #47
      More updates!

      Not happy with the tip fitment but meh. Picked up a catch can today, orignally wanted the stealth 42dd one but I had a credit at mopac for exhance only so I picked up this one. Apperently its the balls around there. Looks really good, all billet and whatnot and has a cool drain setup.
      I broke out the slr today and took some more pictures too



      Can and billet bracket

      Exhaust tip fitment





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      07-13-2012 11:27 PM #48
      Hmmm...who makes the Catch can and how much was it?
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      07-13-2012 11:35 PM #49
      Its moroso. It was around $160 I believe.
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      07-14-2012 12:24 AM #50
      And the can gets exhanged tomorrow. Ughhh, this process is starting to get really old. I will glad when it is done.

      I told the guy I needed 3/4" outlets. It doesnt.
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