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    Thread: Borla ATAK Dual-Pipe Cat-Back w/ X-Pipe for TT-RS

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      07-14-2012 03:30 AM #26
      Quote Originally Posted by Marty View Post
      Really, valves in the exhaust to control sound on-demand are the "dumbest things ever"? If you don't think many people would want this functionality, you're not being intellectually honest.

      I think if you took a survey of the TT-RS owners out there and asked if they would prefer an exhaust that gave you control over exhaust sound to make it loud when you want, and quiet when you want, you'd get an overwhelming response towards having the control.
      That's what I'm saying.... This "crap" is only around in the Audi circle because they gave it to you as OEM, so you think it's great. And as I said, my experience outside of this circle, people would laugh at the idea just like I do and think its the most retarded thing since blinker fluid.

      Quote Originally Posted by jpkeyzer View Post
      Agreed - having no control is absolutely outdated and archaic! (think Model-T Ford from the previous century)

      Having the option to control something on demand (if and when desired) is what current automotive technology should offer automotive enthusiasts. (think Audi TT-RS circa 2012)
      Only in the Audi circles, as I said this is OEM ideas that are not beneficial. Think to any other exhaust make for any other marque brand, VOILA, they do not put valves in exhaust systems for a reason. If it was so great everyone would do it.

      Quote Originally Posted by canuckttrs View Post
      Wtf do you care about how someone else spends their money. Stfu and do what you like.
      Do what the **** you want. Thats what I said ass hole. Why dont you try a bit of reading comprehension before you come off as a retard bitching about a non issue. Take your own advice and shut the **** up.
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      07-14-2012 03:34 AM #27
      Quote Originally Posted by alvint@borla View Post
      **********************************BORLA UPDATE********************************

      I wanted to update those inquiring about pricing and current availability. We're currently sold-out of this cat-back exhaust and have plans for our next production run in early August at our TN facility (not in CA as previously mentioned) early August. All products are indentical using the same materials and design criteria.

      The MSRP is planned at $1789.99 and this product will be released on our website early next week with a part number 140473. When it's released you can shop our dealers for your best price or buy direct from our website at www. Borla.com.

      For those planning on attending WaterFest next week, a fellow Vortex/TT-RS owner will have the cat-back exhaust installed at this show. Please look for this post later in this thread.

      Thanks again for your interest in Borla!

      $1789 for just a catback!!!!!! BWAHAHAHAHABAHAHhha. Yeah, no thanks. I'm an enthusiast,!not stupid. Guess I'll be making my own when I get back.
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      07-14-2012 11:38 AM #28
      Quote Originally Posted by Dan.S View Post
      $1789 for just a catback!!!!!! BWAHAHAHAHABAHAHhha. Yeah, no thanks. I'm an enthusiast,!not stupid. Guess I'll be making my own when I get back.
      Agreed!


      Also Dan.... Id like to add that you seem to be quite strong with your support for a "loud all the time" exhaust... You moved up to a TTRS from a Dodge Neon.... The Audi has and always will exude a certain level of class and sophistication. People that "typically" own these cars arent looking for a loud and obnoxious sounding car. No offence, but a kid with a loud neon and someone who typically owns a TTRS are two very different kinds of people..... typically. Here we go
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      07-14-2012 03:47 PM #29
      Quote Originally Posted by JPAV8S4U View Post
      Agreed!


      Also Dan.... Id like to add that you seem to be quite strong with your support for a "loud all the time" exhaust... You moved up to a TTRS from a Dodge Neon.... The Audi has and always will exude a certain level of class and sophistication. People that "typically" own these cars arent looking for a loud and obnoxious sounding car. No offence, but a kid with a loud neon and someone who typically owns a TTRS are two very different kinds of people..... typically. Here we go
      $1800 doesn't sound that unreasonable given the development time needed to make an exhaust for a specific car that is as low-volume as the TT-RS.

      Look at the APR cat-back exhaust for the S5: $2,100! You can bet your bum that the TT-RS version will be similarly priced.

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      07-14-2012 05:17 PM #30
      Quote Originally Posted by Dan.S View Post
      Only in the Audi circles, as I said this is OEM ideas that are not beneficial. Think to any other exhaust make for any other marque brand, VOILA, they do not put valves in exhaust systems for a reason. If it was so great everyone would do it.
      In life, you have leaders/innovators and followers. Audi tends to be the former (look at what they are doing in motorsports - 24hr Le Mans, etc) and not the later, hence the innovation.

      The ability to change the acoustic output on a performance vehicle at the touch of a button is absolutely beneficial and adds real value/choice.

      Remember when Porche made the crazy move from air-cooled engines to water-cooled engines? That was also controversial, however look at what has transpired over time.

    6. 07-14-2012 05:55 PM #31
      Quote Originally Posted by Dan.S View Post
      $1789 for just a catback!!!!!! BWAHAHAHAHABAHAHhha. Yeah, no thanks. I'm an enthusiast,!not stupid. Guess I'll be making my own when I get back.
      Welcome to modding an Audi. You'll find parts are a bit more expensive than they were for your Dodge.

    7. 07-14-2012 07:07 PM #32
      Quote Originally Posted by Dan.S View Post
      That's what I'm saying.... This "crap" is only around in the Audi circle because they gave it to you as OEM, so you think it's great. And as I said, my experience outside of this circle, people would laugh at the idea just like I do and think its the most retarded thing since blinker fluid.



      Only in the Audi circles, as I said this is OEM ideas that are not beneficial. Think to any other exhaust make for any other marque brand, VOILA, they do not put valves in exhaust systems for a reason. If it was so great everyone would do it.



      Do what the **** you want. Thats what I said ass hole. Why dont you try a bit of reading comprehension before you come off as a retard bitching about a non issue. Take your own advice and shut the **** up.
      Wow. Several OEMs offer valved exhausts. Porsche, Maserati and Chevrolet come to mind. Many more aftermarket companies offer valved exhausts outside of the Audi brand. And you think $1800 for a cat-back is expensive? LOL. Maybe you're used to neon modifications.

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      07-15-2012 04:43 AM #33
      Everyone jammin on my dodge neon, and stating I jumped up from that to the Audi, your blind and ignorant and making assumptions based on what you THINK, and not facts. I represented that video because of the comparison. Could have also been a 79 Charger, a 90s M3, 05 STI, 13 ZL1, 11 135i still loud and badass. I don't care about people who usually do. The people and groups that I run with, they do. Performance is performance and we don't need to quiet it down for the sake of others. Flaunt I if you have it.

      Yes I have a highly modified neon... Does it mean this is my first foray into other cars? You all make that assumption to further your opinions, nothing more.

      Expensive is subjective to what your paying for and what reason. $2000 isn't a lot of money, but for a cat back system, I'd rather have you blow me. I have more money wasted and tied up in modifications to my cars than my TTRS is worth, money isn't the issue. It's value for the dollar.

      On the subject of valves in exhaust by other marquees I was talking about aftermarket manufacturers, not OEM. I have had plenty of systems made for numerouse BMWs, Volvos, Asians, and the domestics and have NEVER once had valves in my systems or even mentioned in the last 15 years. It's a useless gadget in the performance world and only sought out by people in this crowd obviously.
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      07-15-2012 06:17 AM #34
      And one last comment... People (for the vast majority) who tend to modify there cars for performance gains could care less about being quiet and civilized. Hence why they modify for power gains to begin with. Just because its a more expensive start, doesn't mean the attitude is any different than a kid who puts a card in his wheel spokes...


      Call me a "kid" because I like a loud, mean sounding car.... Wow, yeah, nailed that one didnt you... Or is it because I own a louder, cheaper car.... way to throw millions of people into that group!
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      07-15-2012 06:17 PM #35
      Lets try and not make this thread a debate between valved vs. non-valved exhaust systems. To each is their own, everyone has different tastes. We all should consider ourselves lucky that we have a TT-RS in the first place, and that there are so many exhausts systems available for us to choose from.

      Borla used my car to develop the TT-RS exhaust, and I have been running it now since mid march, so about 4 months. Alvin and the guys at Borla had my car for almost a month fine tuning this system. It was totally OK with me, I don't daily my TT-RS and I was really exited to see what they could do given more time. Alvin and the guys are very professional, have great customer service - it was an awesome experience.

      I LOVE this exhaust. Everyone who here's it is very impressed. If you have never heard a Borla multicore muffler in person - its awesome! This patented technology allows them to really tune the sound/tone and volume of the muffler. They do lots of frequency/decibel testing to get rid of in cabin drone to make sure the exhaust is livable but still has that great sound. Borla made a new muffler specifically for this system - so this is a truly custom and tuned exhaust system made just for the TT-RS by a company who's been specializing in exhausts for more than 30 years.

      Typical description of this exhaust is: Surprised at how mean it sounds, great exotic tone, perfect amount of angry raspy noise without being too loud.

      They experimented with many many different iterations until they came up with the best design. This exhaust is dual pipes all the way back, and even has beautifully crafted X-Pipe merge. I like the simple dual exhaust to dual muffler design, some of the other TT-RS exhaust systems that are offered seem over complicated. I also love the way this exhaust sits nicely and really hugs up under the car and has the symmetrical dual mufflers that can just barely be seen from the back. You loose the ugly single pipe going over the rear axles that hangs down and is visible from behind.

      This exhaust is built 100% with premium austenitic stainless steel inside and out. Some systems claim full stainless, but the insides of the mufflers aren't. Designed and built in the USA, and has a million mile warranty. All Borla does is make mufflers and exhaust systems, that is their niche, they are the best at it. All this plus the R&D time spent on making a perfect sound justifies the price in my book - which didn't sound that high to me to begin with.

      If you are in SoCal or NorCal and want to hear the exhaust let me know. I go to a weekly meet on Tuesdays in Huntington Beach, and another meet at the In-N-Out at El Toro and the I-5 freeway the last Thursday of very month. I travel to NorCal once a month, don't typically drive the TT-RS, but can if some of you would like to hear it in person.

      Awesome X-pipe:


      Dual muffler/pipe symmetrical design:


      Looks awesome from behind:


      Nice video showing a look at exhaust development for the new Mustang GT. They make 3 different systems for the new GT, all with different sound levels. It really shows their ability to tune an exhaust system. I like watching David Borla also, its obvious is a real car guy and really cares about the product with his family name on it. FF video to about 1 min.


      When I was at the Borla facility I got to see some of their other awesome systems they make. One that really impressed me was the Ford GT exhaust that Borla makes for Ford Racing. It is an amazing piece of engineering and sounds insane!

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      07-15-2012 06:29 PM #36
      Touché bigstu. Great sound in any regard. Like I said though, full 3in, catless, no mufflers, valveless, turbo back... Id like to see and hear it.
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    12. 07-15-2012 07:41 PM #37
      Quote Originally Posted by Dan.S View Post
      Valves are the dumbest things ever to be put into an exhaust system.

      I drive a car of rthe joy of the car, everything else takes a side interest to that...

      The first company to design a 3in no cat, no resonator straight pipe turbo back system has my order. And if not, then when I get back stateside ill build it myself lol.
      scorpion/forge has already done that, and its available in Titanium or Stainless steel.

      Sounds awesome this Borla, but they need to make a turbo back exhaust, as this is no gain for the power hungry
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    13. 07-16-2012 12:44 AM #38
      Great writeup Stu, looks and sounds like a fantastic system! Is this a secondary cat back system? IE does it still run the midpipe cats? Have you tried it with those deleted yet?

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      07-16-2012 12:54 PM #39
      GREAT post Stu. Thanks for the writeup & info.

      Quote Originally Posted by alvint@borla View Post
      **********************************BORLA UPDATE********************************

      I wanted to update those inquiring about pricing and current availability. We're currently sold-out of this cat-back exhaust and have plans for our next production run in early August at our TN facility (not in CA as previously mentioned) early August. All products are indentical using the same materials and design criteria.

      The MSRP is planned at $1789.99 and this product will be released on our website early next week with a part number 140473. When it's released you can shop our dealers for your best price or buy direct from our website at www. Borla.com.

      For those planning on attending WaterFest next week, a fellow Vortex/TT-RS owner will have the cat-back exhaust installed at this show. Please look for this post later in this thread.

      Thanks again for your interest in Borla!
      As Alvin posted above, Borla is currently shipping me this system and I'm going to have it installed this week in time for Waterfest. I'll keep you guys posted on when I'll be there, if you want to set up a time to meet up and see/hear the exhaust in person.

      Quote Originally Posted by JohnLZ7W

      Great writeup Stu, looks and sounds like a fantastic system! Is this a secondary cat back system? IE does it still run the midpipe cats? Have you tried it with those deleted yet?
      John - This system does still retain the stock midpipe cats.

      I actually have the AWE cat delete pipes on order and will be having them installed in a month or so. So, I'll do my best to get a sound clip up here for you guys after that install as well.

    15. 07-16-2012 01:54 PM #40
      Quote Originally Posted by JohnLZ7W View Post
      Great writeup Stu, looks and sounds like a fantastic system! Is this a secondary cat back system? IE does it still run the midpipe cats? Have you tried it with those deleted yet?
      A pair of Off-Road-Use-Only mid-pipe (no catalytic converters) was considered but we didn't know if there was customer interest... This would add sound to our cat-back (3-5 dBA) and improve flow. Would make perfect sense for a track-car with tune.

      Pic of OE mid-pipes...
      Last edited by alvint@borla; 07-18-2012 at 12:01 PM.

    16. 07-16-2012 02:10 PM #41
      Quote Originally Posted by alvint@borla View Post
      A pair of Off-Road-Use-Only mid-pipe (no catalytic converters) was considered but we didn't know if there was customer interest... This would add sound to our cat-back (3-5 dBA) and improve flow. Would make perfect sense for a track-car with tune.
      There's certainly interest but since Milltek, 034 and AWE already have pipes available is probably not worth adding to the mix. Was just curious how much the sound changed with them decat midpipes and seems like krenshaw should find out soon!

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      07-16-2012 11:26 PM #42
      Apologize if I missed it, but what are the pipe dimensions? If I'm going to cobble together a turbo-back, I'd like to anticipate compatibility issues with down- and mid-pipes (e.g., 034).

      BTW, I saw the system go up on Borla's site and would have purchased but I would like see some more details...and performance stats--if they exist.

      I've run Borla systems on most of my cars (Super Snake and GT-R most recently), and am very excited to see this system come out for the TT RS...just hoping for a little more detail.

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      07-16-2012 11:50 PM #43
      hmmmm..... this looks very interesting .... love how tucked in/ symmetry as well as sounding badass...

      am i correct in assuming this exhaust is everything back of the cats?

      seems to use the same cats as OEM ( they don't look like high flow cats)

      wondering if it would mate up with the new APR downpipe for stage II goodness...
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      07-17-2012 12:04 AM #44
      Quote Originally Posted by YYC Dubber View Post
      am i correct in assuming this exhaust is everything back of the cats?

      seems to use the same cats as OEM ( they don't look like high flow cats)
      Yes, you are exactly right. OEM cat pipes are retained allowing you to use any of the aftermaket cat delete offerings.

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      07-17-2012 12:11 AM #45
      Quote Originally Posted by YYC Dubber View Post
      hmmmm..... this looks very interesting .... love how tucked in/ symmetry as well as sounding badass...

      am i correct in assuming this exhaust is everything back of the cats?

      seems to use the same cats as OEM ( they don't look like high flow cats)

      wondering if it would mate up with the new APR downpipe for stage II goodness...
      Looks like the APR downpipe exits to a single 3" pipe, so it wouldn't be compatible with these twin-pipe exhausts like stock.

    21. 07-17-2012 02:09 AM #46
      Quote Originally Posted by Marty View Post
      Looks like the APR downpipe exits to a single 3" pipe, so it wouldn't be compatible with these twin-pipe exhausts like stock.
      All of the aftermarket downpipes (APR, Milltek, Scorpion) have been single exit so far. I doubt anyone will do a split like OEM has.

    22. 07-18-2012 12:00 PM #47
      Quote Originally Posted by JohnLZ7W View Post
      All of the aftermarket downpipes (APR, Milltek, Scorpion) have been single exit so far. I doubt anyone will do a split like OEM has.
      I believe one company offers a direct replacement without catalytic converters....

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      07-27-2012 09:28 AM #48
      Hey guys...

      Well, I got the exhaust installed yesterday afternoon. I have one word: IMPRESSIVE!

      I've only had about 45 minutes of seat time in the car to enjoy it so far, but I've driven a good mix of roads (backroads, city and highway) to give some good initial impressions.

      First off, what I didn't expect: I didn't expect to feel a noticeable gain in power/torque -- but I do. I had to really think about it and feel for it, to make sure that it wasn't just my mind playing with me, thinking it's more powerful because of the increased sound. No, it really did pick up some noticeable power on the ol' butt dyno. It was clearly evident on my ride to work this morning: I rolled on the throttle at around 60 mph in 6th gear (a lazy pass) and there was immediately more power there. It's not Stage I ECU more power, but it's definitely a discernible gain. I really wish I had the time & availability to get the car baseline dynoed before the exhaust install, but it just wasn't possible.

      What I did expect: THE SOUND -- It sounds amazing. For quick comparison sake, the car actually sounds a LOT like a Gallardo LP-560 I drove recently -- no joke! This system really brings out that "mini-V10" or "1/2 V10" sound. It's definitely louder than my Sport Exhaust (with flapper mod), but by no means uncivilized. Cruising through my neighborhood, it's louder, but not offensive. But, when you really get on the throttle, it sounds beautiful! At highway speeds there is ZERO drone -- none. I think my Sport Exhaust might have been louder inside the car in this situation.

      Lastly, there is definitely some weight saving to be had. As the shop tech was loading my old exhaust into my other car for me, he commented that "that new system is a hell of a lot lighter than this thing!"

      If the weather cooperates this weekend, I'm going to get some outside the car videos to share with you all and definitely some in car clips as well. Also, as I get more time in the car, I'll certainly post up more thoughts. One thing is for certain -- I'm going for a drive at lunch time today!

      Any questions, feel free to ask.

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      07-27-2012 10:41 AM #49
      Thanks for the great write up! Sounds about what I expected. I ordered mine a while ago and can't wait. Borla is also currently offering a good web discount that cuts the price down some more. I just hope they are still on for an early August production schedule.

      Having a killer sounding car, motor, exhaust is almost better than listening to the stereo. But you still have to watch the speedo so you don't get in trouble with speeding tickets.

    25. 07-27-2012 11:13 AM #50
      Yay!! Finally an exhaust that seems to get it right and enhances the mini V10 sound! Are you running the Milltek decat pipes yet? Can't wait to hear some sound clips of this.... must start my exhaust fund

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