Audi TTRS: APR Tuned
Fully built motor, Forge Race FMIC, Scorpion Titanium TBE, 8 pot calipers, braided lines.
GREAT post Stu. Thanks for the writeup & info.
John - This system does still retain the stock midpipe cats.Originally Posted by JohnLZ7W
I actually have the AWE cat delete pipes on order and will be having them installed in a month or so. So, I'll do my best to get a sound clip up here for you guys after that install as well.
Pic of OE mid-pipes...
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Apologize if I missed it, but what are the pipe dimensions? If I'm going to cobble together a turbo-back, I'd like to anticipate compatibility issues with down- and mid-pipes (e.g., 034).
BTW, I saw the system go up on Borla's site and would have purchased but I would like see some more details...and performance stats--if they exist.
I've run Borla systems on most of my cars (Super Snake and GT-R most recently), and am very excited to see this system come out for the TT RS...just hoping for a little more detail.
hmmmm..... this looks very interesting .... love how tucked in/ symmetry as well as sounding badass...
am i correct in assuming this exhaust is everything back of the cats?
seems to use the same cats as OEM ( they don't look like high flow cats)
wondering if it would mate up with the new APR downpipe for stage II goodness...
2007 GTi Black Magic, APR Stage 2+
2012 TTRS Sepang Blue on Titanium Blades.....
Well, I got the exhaust installed yesterday afternoon. I have one word: IMPRESSIVE!
I've only had about 45 minutes of seat time in the car to enjoy it so far, but I've driven a good mix of roads (backroads, city and highway) to give some good initial impressions.
First off, what I didn't expect: I didn't expect to feel a noticeable gain in power/torque -- but I do. I had to really think about it and feel for it, to make sure that it wasn't just my mind playing with me, thinking it's more powerful because of the increased sound. No, it really did pick up some noticeable power on the ol' butt dyno. It was clearly evident on my ride to work this morning: I rolled on the throttle at around 60 mph in 6th gear (a lazy pass) and there was immediately more power there. It's not Stage I ECU more power, but it's definitely a discernible gain. I really wish I had the time & availability to get the car baseline dynoed before the exhaust install, but it just wasn't possible.
What I did expect: THE SOUND -- It sounds amazing. For quick comparison sake, the car actually sounds a LOT like a Gallardo LP-560 I drove recently -- no joke! This system really brings out that "mini-V10" or "1/2 V10" sound. It's definitely louder than my Sport Exhaust (with flapper mod), but by no means uncivilized. Cruising through my neighborhood, it's louder, but not offensive. But, when you really get on the throttle, it sounds beautiful! At highway speeds there is ZERO drone -- none. I think my Sport Exhaust might have been louder inside the car in this situation.
Lastly, there is definitely some weight saving to be had. As the shop tech was loading my old exhaust into my other car for me, he commented that "that new system is a hell of a lot lighter than this thing!"
If the weather cooperates this weekend, I'm going to get some outside the car videos to share with you all and definitely some in car clips as well. Also, as I get more time in the car, I'll certainly post up more thoughts. One thing is for certain -- I'm going for a drive at lunch time today!
Any questions, feel free to ask.
Thanks for the great write up! Sounds about what I expected. I ordered mine a while ago and can't wait. Borla is also currently offering a good web discount that cuts the price down some more. I just hope they are still on for an early August production schedule.
Having a killer sounding car, motor, exhaust is almost better than listening to the stereo. But you still have to watch the speedo so you don't get in trouble with speeding tickets.
No, no cat delete pipes yet. Those should be coming around the 2nd week of August. It's nice to enjoy 'just' the Borla right now -- but I think with the cat deletes this thing is going to wail at WOT!
GordonM, you're going to love it! My only complaint is that I'm going to loose $$$ on my Sirius subscription because I may never turn my stereo on again . In all seriousness though, it really does sound that good. And, I know I said it in my previous post, but I really can't get over how much this sounds like the Gallardo I drove.
Time to go for a drive!
LOL at the part about loosing money on Sirius. When I first got the exhaust I told Alvin at Borla I found a new radio station......its called OFF with the windows down to hear the beautiful 5cyl sound! Thanks Borla!!!!!
Also....I have to ask.....since you are going with the cat delete pipes, have you thought of just selling those and grabbing the APR downpipe/cat delete setup for use with standard cat back exhaust? I think that will be the ultimate setup, and it's is officially next on my list
Congrats and enjoy the new system, thanks for the detailed post Krenshaw!!!
In my opinion, this system is perfect for a daily driver (which, my TT RS is). I had no issues on a bluetooth phone call and I actually did have the radio on this weekend, with no listening issues.
I also had my first sample of windows up driving this weekend. Since the weather around here was complete shyte all weekend long, I spent a good amount of time at highway speeds and city driving with the windows up. Again, no drone, and I certainly didn't find it too loud.
Unfortunately, do to said crappy weather, I wasn't able to capture any vids or sound clips to share with the group this weekend as planned.
I have been thinking about that APR downpipe, but I just don't know. I still think I'm going to get some really good flow from the secondary cat deletes. From a sound standpoint, I like how they added just a bit of *rasp* to the Sports Exhaust and I'm thinking/hoping it'll do the same now w/ the Borla system. Besides, if you're definitely going with the APR setup, maybe I'll just stick with the AWE cat deletes to be different. I mean, we can't have TWO Suzuka RS's, BOTH with identical setups on here can we?!? It would be like some awkward east/west coast stalker thing
BTW- met with another local expecting delivery in about 2 weeks - he's dying to see/hear yours. PM'ing you with his info. And when you putting together that next GTG.
Send the guy my way, I'd love to give him a spin...it'll make the wait even more agonizing though!
2012 TTRS: Daytona Gray, Tech Pack, Heated Alcantara, CF Mirrors, Nexon CF Steering Wheel, DG Rear Valence
GIAC Stage 2+, AWE SwitchPath + cat-deletes, AWE FMIC, H&R RSB, MSS Sport Springs, HRE P40, AWE Boost Gauge, Tinted Tails and Reflectors, OSIR Coolant Tank CF Shield
Winter/Track Wheels: Borbet LV5
So what I had been working off of was a local R8 which had diffuser strakes attached to the stock rear valence, I wish I had taken a pic of it. The TTRS already has two small strakes attached to the lower valence. The entire rear valence section on the TTRS is three separate pieces; the honeycomb, the slim trim piece and then lower valence with the strakes. My plan was to replace the third piece with something that had 4-6 taller strakes than stock.
The downside of something like that is that they'd be fairly high off the ground and might look a bit goofy. Your solution seems better integrated.
The only critique I can make from the video posted is that it does maybe look a bit odd to have the two strakes on the valence and then the full on diffuser below that. I understand it would probably be cost prohibitive to also replace that valence panel and maybe it's not so weird in person.
The height and location of your valence looks really good though! Maybe with slightly longer strakes out towards the back of the car? I suppose it's already cut off at the valence line so it doesn't protrude too far. There's a definite balance here between adding aggression and going over the top. The diffuser on my friend's Exige hangs out quite a bit but that's much more appropriate on that car. On the RS having something that aggro would look tacky.
Sorry for the very long winded reply, I'm just excited to see a product like this being developed for the RS
Wow, Borla comes out of no-where with what appears to be a knockout.
I wasn't really planning on buying a cat-back. (love the factory minus cats) but that diffuser would be nice in black.
2012 TT-RS 6MT - From APR to UM Stage2
2006 A4 S-Line 6MT - APR Stage2+
2000 S4 6MT - PJK04 - Stage3
What's most unique about our Exhaust Diffuser is the direct attachment to our cat-back and no direct contact to the OE body panels. It is simple to install and removed.
Thanks again for your interest in Borla!
If the diffuser looks good when the car is off the lift and our of the shop, you have most likely earned another customer. I have to wait until Q4 before having some free money to modify my TT-RS, but the time is coming quickly
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