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      07-12-2012 02:58 PM #1
      Do such cars exist and if not why are there not more RWD cars with some utility in mind?

      Post any examples past & present.

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      07-12-2012 03:01 PM #2
      318ti, C230 coupe? The 996 and 997 Targas are hatches and have rear seats. 924, 944, 968 as well.
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      07-12-2012 03:04 PM #3
      Quote Originally Posted by Aperture View Post
      318ti, C230 coupe? The 996 and 997 Targas are hatches and have rear seats. 924, 944, 968 as well.
      Do they have adult sized rear seats and plenty of storage space?
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    4. 07-12-2012 03:09 PM #4
      Generally speaking Hatchback and RWD are incompatible. The point of the hatch design is for utility, but a RWD drivetrain (transmission, differential, rear suspension/axles, and the heat generated from all that) start to eat away at the available interior space in order to accommodate it.

      Look underneath a GTI and check out how minimally intrusive the rear suspension is. In particular a MKIV w/ the beam axle. Then, go have a look at pretty much any RWD car and compare that; the differential housing/heat pretty much make it a non-starter for most hatch designs.

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      07-12-2012 03:10 PM #5
      Quote Originally Posted by 2.0T_Convert View Post
      Do they have adult sized rear seats and plenty of storage space?
      It sounds like you want a wagon.
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      07-12-2012 03:11 PM #6
      Probably need to look at wagons

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      07-12-2012 03:11 PM #7
      I'm not happy until I've posted something

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      07-12-2012 03:13 PM #8
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      07-12-2012 03:14 PM #9
      Quote Originally Posted by Aperture View Post
      It sounds like you want a wagon.
      I don't want one.

      I just wonder why we don't have many RWD hatches.
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      07-12-2012 03:15 PM #10
      Quote Originally Posted by 2.0T_Convert View Post
      I don't want one.

      I just wonder why we don't have many RWD hatches.
      it was explained above.
      I'm not happy until I've posted something

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      07-12-2012 03:16 PM #11
      1st Gen Toyota Starlet is a bit of an oddball classic imho.


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      07-12-2012 03:18 PM #12
      Quote Originally Posted by 2.0T_Convert View Post
      I don't want one.

      I just wonder why we don't have many RWD hatches.
      becuase once you have a spare tire, a rear diff, suspension that would support a rwd config.. folding rear seats... a gas tank... and an exhaust system under there... all your cargo space is gone.... there is a reason most rwd hatches are 2 seaters

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      07-12-2012 03:20 PM #13
      Quote Originally Posted by 2.0T_Convert View Post
      Hatchback. Seats at least 4. Practical. Oh and RWD
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      07-12-2012 03:21 PM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by 2.0T_Convert View Post
      Do they have adult sized rear seats and plenty of storage space?
      The C230K / C320 coupes, yes. The Porsche 928, also yes.

      The C-coupes get ragged on primarily based on the early, supercharged cars with the muddy gearboxes. The later cars with the turbocharged or V6 engines and the new gearbox and interior are quite nice.









      The 2005+ models got a newer gauge cluster with a properly sized tachometer, and a revised, much-improved transmission.

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      07-12-2012 03:24 PM #15
      Quote Originally Posted by emmettlodge View Post
      Should have been a hatchback a la Scion tC, but no, it has a traditional trunk, not a hatch or liftback.

      It's the one thing about that car that disappoints me

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      07-12-2012 03:24 PM #16
      RWD makes this tough. I can only think of...
      5 series GT

      5 series wagon.... though not really a hatchback in the strict definition I suppose....


      AWD could open it up to Audi wagons, but they aren't offered in the US anymore as I recall....
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      07-12-2012 03:26 PM #17
      Quote Originally Posted by 2.0T_Convert View Post
      I don't want one.

      I just wonder why we don't have many RWD hatches.
      Because if they did then The Car Lounge would run out of things to whine about every other week.
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      07-12-2012 03:27 PM #18
      There's a bunch of older japanese rwd hatches.
      Mk2 Supra
      3rd gen celica
      E70 corolla sr5
      s12 200sx
      DSM Starion
      Rx7

      but again, the reasons why there arn't many are explained above.

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      07-12-2012 03:27 PM #19
      Quote Originally Posted by Excathedra View Post
      1st Gen Toyota Starlet is a bit of an oddball classic imho.

      Damn, beat me to it.

      How about one of these?

      Vauxhall Chevette HS



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      07-12-2012 03:28 PM #20
      3rd generation Camaro/Firebird came in 4 seat hatchback form for about 10 years. First generation 240Z-280Z also came in 4 seat hatchback form. I'm sure there are plenty more examples. The Ford Mustang also comes to mind.

      All are "semi-practical."

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      07-12-2012 03:35 PM #24
      No such cars exist in 'merica based on strict definition. There are only fastbacks and wagons.

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      07-12-2012 03:38 PM #25
      It generally costs more to develop a RWD platform than a FWD platform, and so by extension, all else equal, RWD cars cost more.

      Hatchbacks = Econocars, at least in the United States. There ARE some exceptions (A3), but by and large, the demographics of RWD car buyers (i.e. will pay a premium for performance) is not the same as hatchback buyer demographics (i.e. don't want to pay a premium for anything).

      Could you take a Quattro A3 and somehow hack it up so that it's RWD? I have no idea how Quattro works, I know you can do this with Subaru AWD.
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