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      07-14-2012 11:12 PM #1
      Well, it almost has 300 miles on it. I decided to check this morning and make sure the 4WD works.... it does. No dirt posing/wheeling pictures since the wife was in a dress and sandals and wouldn't get out to take any while I was wheeling. Only pic I took was in the parking lot at lunch. She said I need to get her the roll bar loop handle, and a sports bra for all the bouncing lol. She had a good time and I didn't scare her, too bad except for almost getting stuck. I will say I am impressed with what this thing does stock, and on street tires. I had about a 50ft long mud/water trough in front of me. I watched an OJ era bronco on 35's go through. He gets out turns around and waves me in. I went in in 4H in 2nd gear. Whoops, deeper then I though, down shift to first and BARELY made it out. The water/mud was up to the front bumper..... figured out why. Note to all of you that have one, make sure TCS IS OFF BEFORE you go into water/mud or try and climb anything. It see's the wheels slipping in mud and goes crazy. It resets when you cycle the key which is what I figured out in muddy water up to my door sills. In 4Lo TCS will shut it off automatically. It climbed whatever I pointed it up in 4Lo like a damn mountain goat. Nice steep rutted ridge trail, a few 4-5 foot tall steep embankments with a nasty break over to check the skids. And no body damage. Just some pinstripes from brush.


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      07-14-2012 11:31 PM #2
      Need actual pics, brah.
      Stories are stories, and pics are pics.

      Nice Jeep, though.

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      07-14-2012 11:38 PM #3
      I would have waited 500 miles before testing the 4WD, but still, I think it's awesome you're doing it!
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      07-14-2012 11:54 PM #4
      hahaha, I wasn't too rough on it.

      No worries, I will have proper pics soon enough! This is one Jeep that is going to get used. First will be a small lift and some decent tires. Then armor, locker, bumpers. I'm going to keep it mild.
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      07-15-2012 12:00 AM #5
      Quote Originally Posted by mikes96GTI View Post
      hahaha, I wasn't too rough on it.

      No worries, I will have proper pics soon enough! This is one Jeep that is going to get used. First will be a small lift and some decent tires. Then armor, locker, bumpers. I'm going to keep it mild.
      thats what we all say, haha
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      07-15-2012 12:12 AM #6
      Quote Originally Posted by AndyG86 View Post
      thats what we all say, haha
      Yeah......... I had an 87 K5 on 1 tons. Hahaha, having been down that road of a truck with line-x floors, huge lift, swampers, horrible mileage and ride, I would like to attempt to keep it mild. we shall see.

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      07-15-2012 12:31 AM #7
      Quote Originally Posted by mikes96GTI View Post
      hahaha, then armor, locker, bumpers. I'm going to keep it mild.

      You don't really need a lift, or wheels, or bumpers.
      Look into STAUN Beadlocks, and a front ox/e-locker, or both lockers.
      Game over.

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      07-15-2012 12:49 AM #8
      Doing it right! Good job!


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      07-15-2012 01:00 AM #9
      Quote Originally Posted by AndyG86 View Post
      thats what we all say, haha
      Keep it mild, yea right. Lol.

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      07-15-2012 02:16 AM #10
      I read the title as a new way people were breaking into or stealing new Jeeps.

      Glad it wasn't that and glad to see someone using their Jeep.
      I really wish everyone would update their location in their profile!

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      07-15-2012 02:24 AM #11
      no pics of wife no care
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      07-15-2012 02:52 AM #12
      Quote Originally Posted by ThreadBomber View Post
      no pics of wife no care
      Sad, but true.

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      07-15-2012 09:52 AM #13
      Quote Originally Posted by mikes96GTI View Post
      hahaha, I wasn't too rough on it.

      No worries, I will have proper pics soon enough! This is one Jeep that is going to get used. First will be a small lift and some decent tires. Then armor, locker, bumpers. I'm going to keep it mild.

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      07-15-2012 10:09 AM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by pho View Post
      Look into STAUN Beadlocks,
      Why?

      Quote Originally Posted by pho View Post
      and a front ox/e-locker, or both lockers.
      Ox Locker = garbage

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      07-15-2012 01:42 PM #15
      I want to go ARB front and rear, but that is some serious cash. Even though I can install them myself, the bits are the hurting part.

      As for pics of the wife, you dirty dogs.....
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      07-15-2012 01:57 PM #16
      Quote Originally Posted by mikes96GTI View Post
      As for pics of the wife, you dirty dogs...
      Quote Originally Posted by mikes96GTI View Post
      No worries, I'm going to keep it mild.


      Quote Originally Posted by MCTB View Post
      Why?
      Staun beadlocks are great. Allows you to air down to >10psi:
      http://www.eco4wd.com/Faqsftp/StaunFaqs.htm




      An Ox locker is better than no locker.

      If it were my Jeep I would go ARB front & rear.
      Or, Ox lockers if you are on a budget.

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      07-15-2012 02:46 PM #17
      I had an Aussie Locker in the front of mine. Ran 37 inch tractor tires. No problems at all. They were like $250 new. Best money I ever spent/ Detroit in the rear though.

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      07-15-2012 02:48 PM #18
      Quote Originally Posted by pho View Post
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      Staun beadlocks are great. Allows you to air down to >10psi:

      Or, Ox lockers if you are on a budget.
      Right, because 10 psi is going to happen so often that they are worth the price.... THe grand total of times Ive gone below 15 psi, and I wheel often in rocks and mud, zero. Its a waste of money.


      Also, OX lockers are expensive and garbage. They are not a budget option. A lunchbox locker is the budget option. Dont bother with a budget option. Save and get what you want. Buy a winch

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      07-15-2012 02:55 PM #19
      Quote Originally Posted by DawnsKayBug View Post
      I had an Aussie Locker in the front of mine. Ran 37 inch tractor tires. No problems at all. They were like $250 new. Best money I ever spent/ Detroit in the rear though.


      Yea, I play alot in the sand. The sand dunes where I play have sugar type sand, so I definitely need to air down to >10psi when I go out and play.

      A quality locker is a great investment.
      I'm running a high pressue clutch, Detroit e-Lockers front and rear, with 17" wheels, and Staun beadlocks all around. Solid, no need for a winch.

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      07-15-2012 02:59 PM #20
      We have: A pic of a muddy Jeep, talk of wife in it, talk of wife's sports bra, and absolutely no pics of a sports bra clad wife covered in mud. Fai... Whoa, WHOA, put down the crowbar! I mean, nice new Jeep! Enjoy it!
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    21. 07-15-2012 04:07 PM #21
      Quote Originally Posted by pho View Post
      You don't really need a lift, or wheels, or bumpers.
      So you're deciding for the OP what sort of terrain he can and cannot tackle in his Jeep? And you're also deciding how much body protection he ought to have?

      Quote Originally Posted by pho View Post
      Staun beadlocks are great. Allows you to air down to >10psi
      The last two times I went Jeeping, I aired down to 12 psi front and 10 psi rear, and I have no beadlock wheels. It worked great--so much so, in fact, that this is now my standard procedure whenever I go play in the rocks.

      Quote Originally Posted by MCTB View Post
      THe grand total of times Ive gone below 15 psi, and I wheel often in rocks and mud, zero. Its a waste of money.
      You should try it some time. The difference in ride quality and grip between 15 psi and 10 psi is startling. It makes my $75 air compressor one of the best investments I have ever made.

      Also, OX lockers are expensive. They are not a budget option. A lunchbox locker is the budget option. Dont bother with a budget option. Save and get what you want. Buy a winch
      I agree completely with the above. Air lockers are the most expensive option, but they're also the best. I've done the lunchbox locker thing in the past, but once you've lived with a selectable locker you'll never want to live without it.

      Quote Originally Posted by pho View Post
      I'm running a high pressue clutch, Detroit e-Lockers front and rear, with 17" wheels, and Staun beadlocks all around. Solid, no need for a winch.
      "No need for a winch" is one of the most ridiculous statements I have ever heard. If you choose not to run one, well, that's up to you. I would never tell someone else NOT to have one, though. If the guy decides not to buy one just because you told him not to, are YOU going to drive out to his location and help free him when he inevitably gets stuck somewhere?
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    22. 07-15-2012 04:14 PM #22
      You shifted underwater???

      That's a good way to ruin a clutch if I'm not mistaken.

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      07-15-2012 04:16 PM #23
      Quote Originally Posted by mikes96GTI View Post
      She said I need to get her the roll bar loop handle, and a sports bra for all the bouncing lol.

      pics of what she said ;-)
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      07-15-2012 05:29 PM #24
      Quote Originally Posted by TurboMinivan View Post
      The last two times I went Jeeping, I aired down to 12 psi front and 10 psi rear, and I have no beadlock wheels. It worked great--so much so, in fact, that this is now my standard procedure whenever I go play in the rocks.
      There are so many times where I never aired down and made it through just fine. I hardly ever air down. I have a compressor and a CO2 tank as well but they hardly get used. Seeing that you are in Utah, I can understand why it is important but I have done so much without even bothering.



      Also, the amount you can air down isnt just a generic statement. It has to do with weight of the truck and width of the tire/ wheel. The Disco was a PIG and I never went below 20psi for the tire width. The 60 was lighter and had wider tires so I could have gone lower if I wanted to.

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      07-15-2012 05:43 PM #25
      Quote Originally Posted by MCTB View Post
      I hardly ever air down. I have a compressor and a CO2 tank as well but they hardly get used.


      Also, the amount you can air down has more to do with weight of the truck and width of the tire/ wheel. The Disco was a PIG and I never went below 20psi for the tire width. The 60 was lighter and had wider tires so I could have gone lower if I wanted to.

      IMHO; Whether mud, dirt, sand, or rocks; airing down to >20psi really opens up the footprint of the tire. Allowing for much more traction, with less throttle. It makes the ride alot more comfortable, and the softer tires absorb most of the bounce caused by the uneven terrain.

      The most frustrating part of airing down is the wait associated with the initial air down. What I did was buy some ARB airdowns that screw onto the valve stems. Its a big shortcut, and the airdowns are preset to 15psi. All you have to do is, screw them in, and start your offroading adventure.

      Enjoy your offroading adventures, gentlemen.

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      07-15-2012 08:11 PM #26
      Quote Originally Posted by Bonanza View Post
      You shifted underwater???

      That's a good way to ruin a clutch if I'm not mistaken.
      It is a good way to ruin a clutch. I shifted while moving through water/mud, barely. It was that or stop, lose momentum and possibly/likely be stuck. I wasn't stopped and swamped. The Jeep has a pretty sealed up belhousing though. Not like my K5 where I could see the torque converter spinning lol.

      No, im not posting up pics of my wifes tits. Closest pics I have is us at our wedding. Guy who did our pics does Pin Up photography.

      How do those portable CO2 tanks work? How many airdown/refills do you get? Is a compressor better?
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      07-15-2012 08:39 PM #27
      Looks like you had fun. I miss my wrangler a lot, It was a blast to wheel around in even in stock form. I'm actually looking to get out of my bmw and get back in to one, except a 4 door this time around with the factory lift and 35s.


      this was the only time I got stuck in it, big tree root was burried under the muck and I couldnt get over it, then I got stuck because the mud was up to the underside and I was actually sitting on it, stock tires didn't help either


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      07-15-2012 08:49 PM #28
      yea looks like you have the same Mall Terrain tires I have. haha. It did pretty well I think. With tires and a locker I'm sure it will do spooky stuff. Thing I don't deal with really well is off camber climbs. I'm always scared of sliding, flopping, or worse, rolling. Generally finding out the limit of what your rig will tolerate, seems to involve one of those three!

      Sell the BMW? 335xi? 2011 has the good motor, plus xDrive. I drove a Dinan package (not my favorite tuner) stage 3 car (software, intake, exhaust, oil and intercoolers) in xi and it was a lot of fun. The weird thing is, the 335is still has the old N54. We just PDI'd a brand new one off the Schnitzel boat last week. The early cars are troublesome, but its BMW's B5 S4. Car makes spooky power with a few mods and handles like nothing else.
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      07-15-2012 09:10 PM #29
      Quote Originally Posted by pho View Post
      How do those portable CO2 tanks work? How many airdown/refills do you get? Is a compressor better?
      Well you see, there is a tank, and inside the tank is compressed CO2

      But seriously, http://www.expeditionexchange.com/powertank/
      There is a table about half way down that will tell you # of fill ups depending on tire size.

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      07-15-2012 09:24 PM #30
      Quote Originally Posted by Quinn1.8t View Post
      Well you see, there is a tank, and inside the tank is compressed CO2

      But seriously, http://www.expeditionexchange.com/powertank/
      There is a table about half way down that will tell you # of fill ups depending on tire size.
      So thats how it works? hahahaha.

      That 15# bottle fills a lot of tires. I thought it would maybe get through a set of 35's. Cool!
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      07-15-2012 09:33 PM #31
      Quote Originally Posted by mikes96GTI View Post
      yea looks like you have the same Mall Terrain tires I have. haha. It did pretty well I think. With tires and a locker I'm sure it will do spooky stuff. Thing I don't deal with really well is off camber climbs. I'm always scared of sliding, flopping, or worse, rolling. Generally finding out the limit of what your rig will tolerate, seems to involve one of those three!

      Sell the BMW? 335xi? 2011 has the good motor, plus xDrive. I drove a Dinan package (not my favorite tuner) stage 3 car (software, intake, exhaust, oil and intercoolers) in xi and it was a lot of fun. The weird thing is, the 335is still has the old N54. We just PDI'd a brand new one off the Schnitzel boat last week. The early cars are troublesome, but its BMW's B5 S4. Car makes spooky power with a few mods and handles like nothing else.
      haha yeah, they seem to show there weakness ones you hit some deeper mud... good at first, but after a couple runs they cake up and get weak! I pushed the thing to its limits when I had it, at one point I was pretty sure we were going to slide right off a hill into a stream during some rain, needless to say I was pretty damn scared and didn't do much after that LOL.

      Yeah sell the 335xi... its a fantastic car, and a total blast to drive even in stock form, i can't imagine if it was modded.. ever since bmw released the car with that motor (talking about the first model with the n54) I had to have one, and the opportunity came up and I jumped on it... But im getting tired of the high car payment (leased) and want to start saving money for my future. I dont understand why bmw kept the n54 in the new 335is, i guess they figured it makes more power easier? atleast thats what I got out of some reading.. .

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      07-16-2012 02:23 AM #32
      Quote Originally Posted by Bugs View Post
      pics of what she said ;-)
      Yes.

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