Official FORMULA 1 GROSSER PREIS SANTANDER VON DEUTSCHLAND 2012

[gizmopop]

The 10th race of the season, and things are too tight at the top.

Thoughts?

[Mk1Racer]

I liked this track a lot more before it was "Tilkefied".

[rscshakespeare]

hopefully it is kimis time.

vettel
kimi
webber
alonso

[gizmopop]

I liked this track a lot more before it was "Tilkefied".

Yeah, I was thinking of asking if anyone missed the old configuration...



Grosjean has a 5 place penalty for changing transmission.

[24vEngineer]

Webbo
Kimi
Alonso
Vettel


Would love to see them do 250+MPH on the old track layout!

[kfzmeister]

The 10th race of the season, and things are too tight at the top.

Thoughts?

Funny. That aerial picture of the track must invoke sentimental feelings in all of us. I remember racing the old layout in video games. Very similar to Monza...
I'm thinking they shortened it due to spectators and the cars coming around more often. I'm sure a Bernie thing since i remember him suggesting that about Spa already....

That said, i hope Kimi does it. Who remembers him thrashing around here a few years back in the Macca chasing Schumi?????......until his rear wing completely fell off and he had a big crash? Dohhhhh!

[Mk1Racer]

I'm thinking they shortened it due to spectators and the cars coming around more often. I'm sure a Bernie thing since i remember him suggesting that about Spa already....

That's pretty much it. Rubens won from 18th place in a race that had weather all over the map. That, and all the passes happened in the forest, so hardly anyone that was at the race saw them.

And Bernie better not f*ck w/ Spa!

[GTIVRSEX2]

I liked this track a lot more before it was "Tilkefied".

True!

[wiredvw]

I liked this track a lot more before it was "Tilkefied".

+1

[24vEngineer]

DRS will be placed on the run up to Hockenheim’s hairpin as Formula 1 returns to the German venue this weekend. As the country’s Grand Prix is now alternating with the Nürburgring, the sport is yet to visit the former since 2010.

The detection point, measuring whether or not a car is within one second of that in front, will be placed on the exit of Turn 4, with activation coming 260 metres later to allow for use though the long Parabolika which leads the field to the hairpin of Turn 6.

Not only has DRS not yet been used at Hockenheim, but fellow 2011 newcomer Pirelli is also visiting the Heidelberg venue for the first time. KERS will make a debut at the track too, as the teams had a pact in place not to use the system two years ago.

This will probably make the race boring and ruin the outcome..., but weather will be a factor as well.

Fri
Jul 20
69°
53°
Showers
CHANCE OF RAIN:
40%

WIND:
WSW at 9 mph
Details
Sat
Jul 21
70°
53°
Showers
CHANCE OF RAIN:
60%

WIND:
W at 7 mph
Details
Sun
Jul 22
73°
54°
Scattered Showers
CHANCE OF RAIN:
30%

WIND:
NNE at 7 mph
Details

Rain expected throughout the weekend. Who is going to capitalize?

[kfzmeister]

"Hey Lewis, show us you best Justin Bieber victory finger impression....."

[nickthaskater]

"Hey Lewis, show us you best Justin Bieber victory finger impression....."

Forget the finger, that jacket and hat are awful

[capsaicin]

Forget the finger, that jacket and hat are awful

That hat looks entirely too big for him. And what's with the flat bills? Every time Alonso is on the podium and given a hat with the bill bent he bends is back to flatten out, and I die a little inside.

[24vEngineer]

That hat looks entirely too big for him. And what's with the flat bills? Every time Alonso is on the podium and given a hat with the bill bent he bends is back to flatten out, and I die a little inside.

You leave Alonso alone, Kimi does it too. I can't blame them for not liking the cooter bend on their bill.

[kfzmeister]

I would wear my hat that way as well, cause it's stylish today. My 15 year old daughter told me, though: "NO, dad"!

[rscshakespeare]

practice hit with rain. mclaren up their pace but they are usually up there on practice.

schumacher crashes car good.

lotus looking powerful with updates.

still think redbull will dominate but hopefully schumacher will podium.

[capsaicin]

This will be tough to call. Pirelli's haven't been run at Hockenheim yet. Two wet practices. Lotus has a grid penalty for Grosjean and their big updates were just being tested in this weeks practice and are not set to run Sunday.

Vettel
Alonso
Perez

[24vEngineer]

Lotus has the Super DRS this weekend...

Another wet weekend means another random winner....

[24vEngineer]

Why is MS taking a picture of his wrecked car?

[capsaicin]

Why is MS taking a picture of his wrecked car?

A better question is why is he now fat and working the course from behind the fence?

[gizmopop]

Maldonado on top of the 2nd practice session. This session was wet and the fastest times were about 10 seconds slower than the first session.

[Mk1Racer]

Why was Bottas in the car for P1 instead of Senna?

[nickthaskater]

A better question is why is he now fat and working the course from behind the fence?

Getting ready for retirement?

[Hawk]

Hamilton is such a dork.



Taken during today's practice.

[gizmopop]

Alonso tops session 3 with Hamilton a close second. Button in last place at the moment. Top 11 spots within a second of each other.

[gizmopop]

Qualifying Session about to start.

[gizmopop]

Qualifying results before any penalties...
(sorry about the formatting)


1 5 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1:16.073 1:38.521 1:40.621 23
2 1 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull Racing-Renault 1:16.393 1:38.309 1:41.026 23
3 2 Mark Webber Red Bull Racing-Renault 1:16.500 1:39.382 1:41.496 24
4 7 Michael Schumacher Mercedes 1:16.686 1:38.010 1:42.459 24
5 12 Nico Hulkenberg Force India-Mercedes 1:16.271 1:39.467 1:43.501 24
6 18 Pastor Maldonado Williams-Renault 1:16.181 1:38.731 1:43.950 27
7 3 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1:16.507 1:38.659 1:44.113 20
8 4 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1:16.221 1:37.365 1:44.186 18
9 11 Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes 1:16.352 1:39.703 1:44.889 26
10 9 Kimi Räikkönen Lotus-Renault 1:15.693 1:39.729 1:45.811 20
11 16 Daniel Ricciardo STR-Ferrari 1:16.516 1:39.789 15
12 15 Sergio Perez Sauber-Ferrari 1:15.726 1:39.933 17
13 14 Kamui Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 1:16.481 1:39.985 16
14 6 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:16.265 1:40.212 17
15 10 Romain Grosjean Lotus-Renault 1:16.685 1:40.574 18
16 19 Bruno Senna Williams-Renault 1:16.426 1:40.752 21
17 8 Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1:15.988 1:41.551 18
18 17 Jean-Eric Vergne STR-Ferrari 1:16.741 9
19 20 Heikki Kovalainen Caterham-Renault 1:17.620 8
20 21 Vitaly Petrov Caterham-Renault 1:18.531 9
21 25 Charles Pic Marussia-Cosworth 1:19.220 12
22 24 Timo Glock Marussia-Cosworth 1:19.291 11
23 22 Pedro de la Rosa HRT-Cosworth 1:19.912 8
24 23 Narain Karthikeyan HRT-Cosworth 1:20.230

Weather is going to play a big part tomorrow.

[nickthaskater]

I was really pulling for Schu and Vettel to line-up 1-2 in Germany; that would have been tremendous

Regardless, good session and setting up for a good race with Alonso, Vettel and Schumacher 1, 2, 3 respectively.

[kfzmeister]

The finger......Alonso style!
Hope it rains!

[atoson]

Wow what a race, lots of overtaking.

[Hawk]

Vettel totally passed Jenson OFF the track. Stewarts better give Jenson 2nd.

Jenson knows it. Vettel knows it. The cameras show he had all four wheels off the track for the pass. If Jenson doesn't get 2nd I'll be shocked.

Jenson such a classy guy on the podium smiling and just saying it was a great race and he won't comment.



Sebastian explaining to Jenson how he had to pass him illegally outside the track to get 2nd. And Jenson, thinking, yup, we'll see what the stewarts say...

[The Red Baron]

Great racing, lots of action.

It will be interesting to see what the stewards rule on Vettel's pass. I can see it going either way. Personally I think Button has a case.

I just can't imagine they'll penalize Vettel at his home grand prix.

I also read that the FIA was investigating Red Bull's engine mapping for irregularities. Not sure what will come of that?

[The Red Baron]

Oh, I see the stewards cleared RB on the engine mapping thing pre race. Never mind my previous question.

[Hawk]

I just can't imagine they'll penalize Vettel at his home grand prix.

So the rules are different if you're racing on your home turf. Sounds fair.

"Hey guys, listen up, here are the rules for today, oh unless this is your home GP in which case don't worry about it."

[Gran Turismo]

Overall a pretty interesting race and congrats to Alonso. Wish that the Kimster got better results as he was so quick during the dry portions of qualifying. As for that off-track pass, I agree that Jenson deserves P2. Like Brundle said at the very least, Seb will get penalized on the grid at Hungary.